The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

[zinfamous]

The thing is though we are comparing a lv68 item with a lv30 item. Hardly fair. Now put a lv50 sword with +75% crit damage bonus and you'll see higher base numbers to calculate off of and it might be a different story. There's also other factors like your level, the enemy level, the enemies armor, your oils and buffs, debuffs on the enemy, armor piercing bonuses etc that determine the actual attack damage dealt to an enemy. It's not that easy to come up with a formula to figure out the damage and what would do more than another. There's probably some dice rolls going on that you can't influence as well.

...but that's exactly what I'm talking about. There is no point to compare swords of different levels, with different base damage.

my question is about the inherent bonuses. I've already mentioned several times that many relic steel swords outclass any of the witcher steel swords, so I don't care about comparing those....but you're showing the ursine sword at the half the level, can nearly match the damage output of the other....so I think that pretty easily answers the question about which bonuses are better, no?

I don't know this, but I suspect it's possible that base damage might be adjusted based on those bonuses--say, maybe the 75% crit damage swords have lower inherent damage?

I seriously doubt the difference in base damage is that big a deal if your crit rate is high enough, say 30%+, which is pretty easy, to achieve I think. You then assume every third attack is going to hit that much more, so over 10 seconds or so, the dps on the high crit should outclass any other non-crit base damage...should. I don't know if it does in this game, or if crit is simply broken.

The %burn and stuff like that is only on the sword, right? It doesn't effect any other burn sources, like Igni?

In the end, I guess this isn't useful without a training dummy to actually test this stuff.

oh, also, I haven't seen % Instant kill; only % dismember, which is instant kill in this game, correct? are those stats part of your cheat build/cheat weapons...so weapons that don't actually exist in the release build without shenanigans?

if so....I wonder why they are actually being discussed?

 

[Mem]

How much questing is there in Skellige? I assume I have a good amount still left to do questing wise right?

Quite a lot in Skellige,it's pretty big area and loads of hidden caches and stuff to do.

 

[Fire&Blood]

I f-ed up.

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I gave the crystal to Yen and now I can't lure Radovid off the boat. I met with Djikstra and agreed to the plan to kill Radovid. Redanian most wanted quest is still active but any conversation choice has the same outcome, he kicks me off the ship. The closest save prior to the crystal choice sets me back at least 25 hours. Only got one main quest left, travel to mists isle. Any way I can still help to kill Radovid at this point or do I have to go back to the old save?
I could live with many other choices but not this one, I absolutely want Radovid dead.

 

[zinfamous]

I f-ed up.

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I gave the crystal to Yen and now I can't lure Radovid off the boat. I met with Djikstra and agreed to the plan to kill Radovid. Redanian most wanted quest is still active but any conversation choice has the same outcome, he kicks me off the ship. The closest save prior to the crystal choice sets me back at least 25 hours. Only got one main quest left, travel to mists isle. Any way I can still help to kill Radovid at this point or do I have to go back to the old save?
I could live with many other choices but not this one, I absolutely want Radovid dead.

I haven't downloaded and used the unofficial console yet, but you could try to reset the quest through that.

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That would suck, because that dude needs/needed to die. When giving him the crystal, I thought the quest was bugged because everything suddenly ended there and nothing new popped up relating to that quest. Same as you, I diddled around for many hours before continuing on with the story until it eventually popped up again. Awesome questline, though

 

[cmdrdredd]

...but that's exactly what I'm talking about. There is no point to compare swords of different levels, with different base damage.

my question is about the inherent bonuses. I've already mentioned several times that many relic steel swords outclass any of the witcher steel swords, so I don't care about comparing those....but you're showing the ursine sword at the half the level, can nearly match the damage output of the other....so I think that pretty easily answers the question about which bonuses are better, no?

I don't know this, but I suspect it's possible that base damage might be adjusted based on those bonuses--say, maybe the 75% crit damage swords have lower inherent damage?

I seriously doubt the difference in base damage is that big a deal if your crit rate is high enough, say 30%+, which is pretty easy, to achieve I think. You then assume every third attack is going to hit that much more, so over 10 seconds or so, the dps on the high crit should outclass any other non-crit base damage...should. I don't know if it does in this game, or if crit is simply broken.

The %burn and stuff like that is only on the sword, right? It doesn't effect any other burn sources, like Igni?

In the end, I guess this isn't useful without a training dummy to actually test this stuff.

oh, also, I haven't seen % Instant kill; only % dismember, which is instant kill in this game, correct? are those stats part of your cheat build/cheat weapons...so weapons that don't actually exist in the release build without shenanigans?

if so....I wonder why they are actually being discussed?

Chance for instant kill is a legit stat. These weapons are real weapons You could go pick up in the game but nobody (I don't think) can get to the level to use them without cheating. Instant kill and dismember are different in that an instant kill doesn't always dismember an enemy and you can influence your chances via a skill. There is a trophy with chance to dismember as well though. The biggest benefit of instant kill is you have a skill that increases the chances with each adrenaline point by a certain amount.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I f-ed up.

Spoiler

I gave the crystal to Yen and now I can't lure Radovid off the boat. I met with Djikstra and agreed to the plan to kill Radovid. Redanian most wanted quest is still active but any conversation choice has the same outcome, he kicks me off the ship. The closest save prior to the crystal choice sets me back at least 25 hours. Only got one main quest left, travel to mists isle. Any way I can still help to kill Radovid at this point or do I have to go back to the old save?

I could live with many other choices but not this one, I absolutely want Radovid dead.

You did it correctly. Let radavid get mad at you and kick you out. Then you will get a further quest from djikstra after you find Ciri. You just need to

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tell him you will explain what the emperor wants if he lets you go with philippa at the bath house during that quest. Do not forcefully move him out of your way if you want this quest line to continue.

 

[zinfamous]

Chance for instant kill is a legit stat. These weapons are real weapons You could go pick up in the game but nobody (I don't think) can get to the level to use them without cheating. Instant kill and dismember are different in that an instant kill doesn't always dismember an enemy and you can influence your chances via a skill. There is a trophy with chance to dismember as well though. The biggest benefit of instant kill is you have a skill that increases the chances with each adrenaline point by a certain amount.

ah neato; I just haven't seen it anywhere in 200 hours. It was also a part of the ability tree in W2, but did not make it to W3 abilities (unless I also missed that--perhaps in the yellow skills? been a while since I went back over those.)

 

[zinfamous]

You did it correctly. Let radavid get mad at you and kick you out. Then you will get a further quest from djikstra after you find Ciri. You just need to

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tell him you will explain what the emperor wants if he lets you go with philippa at the bath house during that quest. Do not forcefully move him out of your way if you want this quest line to continue.

I understand that he is currently at that later quest with Dykstra, after finding Ciri, and so he is trying to get back on the boat after earlier refusing to give him the crystal from the initial quest.

It seems as though the guard only gives him one option in conversation, but it never lets him on the boat.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I understand that he is currently at that later quest with Dykstra, after finding Ciri, and so he is trying to get back on the boat after earlier refusing to give him the crystal from the initial quest.

It seems as though the guard only gives him one option in conversation, but it never lets him on the boat.

From the sounds of it

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he thinks the crystal must go to radavid and that when he kicks you off you fail. That isn't the case. The quest will complete if you tell him you found nothing and to take your word for it. then he gets pissed and says he doesn't trust you anyway etc. then tosses you out for being useless. The rest will not be able to be completed until you start putting the lodge of sorceresses together again after going to the idle of mists.

 

[zinfamous]

From the sounds of it

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he thinks the crystal must go to radavid and that when he kicks you off you fail. That isn't the case. The quest will complete if you tell him you found nothing and to take your word for it. then he gets pissed and says he doesn't trust you anyway etc. then tosses you out for being useless. The rest will not be able to be completed until you start putting the lodge of sorceresses together again after going to the idle of mists.

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but that is what he is saying--he is putting the lodge together (this happens after you find Ciri). He is going back when the quest appears--it has it's own title for the quest; I forget which. He explained, rather clearly I thought, that he ealrier was kicked off, then 25 hours game time later, with the new quest involving Dykstra and Thaler and Roche and Phillipa (Phillipa isn't available until the later quest anyway, and he already mentioned that he is talking to her), that guard will not let him on the boat to talk to Radovid.
He thinks that it is broken because he earlier didn't give it to Radovid because now that he is on the later quest, he has no way to get on the boat. While that is not the case, something remains broken with his quest.

 

[Mem]

No.13 DLC is out,"where the cat and wolf play".

 

[cmdrdredd]

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but that is what he is saying--he is putting the lodge together (this happens after you find Ciri). He is going back when the quest appears--it has it's own title for the quest; I forget which. He explained, rather clearly I thought, that he ealrier was kicked off, then 25 hours game time later, with the new quest involving Dykstra and Thaler and Roche and Phillipa (Phillipa isn't available until the later quest anyway, and he already mentioned that he is talking to her), that guard will not let him on the boat to talk to Radovid.
He thinks that it is broken because he earlier didn't give it to Radovid because now that he is on the later quest, he has no way to get on the boat. While that is not the case, something remains broken with his quest.

Read again, the quest he is doing now is to go to the isle of mists. He isn't far enough to get to the next part. He never mentioned Philippa and he said if he reloads a save to give the stone to radovid it will set him back 25 hours. He doesn't have to, he just needs to follow the main quest until the section I mentioned opens up.

 

[escrow4]

Radovid

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alive is a decent ending. Do you really want Djisktra alive? Fat bastard. I broke his other leg and laughed for 30min. Radovid runs it and causes that Nilfgaard emperor prick too to be stabbed. Radovid may be cuckoo but he gets it done.

 

[Mem]

Radovid

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alive is a decent ending. Do you really want Djisktra alive? Fat bastard. I broke his other leg and laughed for 30min. Radovid runs it and causes that Nilfgaard emperor prick too to be stabbed. Radovid may be cuckoo but he gets it done.

My ending was a little different ie

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they both get killed ,personally there is no perfect ending if you look at the whole big picture,end of the day I did what Geralt would do ie concentrate on Ciri,her receiving her Witcher sword from Geralt was quite cool in the end.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I did it different

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radovid dead and djikstra dead. temaria was free.

 

[zinfamous]

Read again, the quest he is doing now is to go to the isle of mists. He isn't far enough to get to the next part. He never mentioned Philippa and he said if he reloads a save to give the stone to radovid it will set him back 25 hours. He doesn't have to, he just needs to follow the main quest until the section I mentioned opens up.

oh derp--why did I read that he had already picked up Ciri? maybe that was someone else... :whiste:

 

[alcoholbob]

Is the Negotiator the highest DPS end-game silver sword? 16% crit chance is pretty crazy affix. Late in the game you got lot of sources of crit damage but low crit chance so any amount of crit chance raises your dps like crazy.

 

[chimaxi83]

I lol'd

 

[zinfamous]

Is the Negotiator the highest DPS end-game silver sword? 16% crit chance is pretty crazy affix. Late in the game you got lot of sources of crit damage but low crit chance so any amount of crit chance raises your dps like crazy.

crit chance is really easy to come by with skills and armor, and even mutagen decoctions, though. but yeah, I haven't seen a sword with more than 10% inherent

 

[Fire&Blood]

Thanks guys. I panicked too soon since I thought Kaer Morhen=end of the game. And thanks Z, I didn't know quests could be reset.

 

[Mem]

Thanks guys. I panicked too soon since I thought Kaer Morhen=end of the game. And thanks Z, I didn't know quests could be reset.

It's not end of game,even after end of game you can carry on playing TW3,that's what I've been doing ie the DLC content from yesterday "where the cat and wolf play" where without spoilers leaves you to make a moral choice,I even went back to Kaer Morhen to see if anything in that area I had missed.


I'm still bugged out on Gwent at later stage and final horse race but nothing I can do about that until a patch fixes them.

Btw the vampire one where he wakes up and asked for the year,I got total of 5 XP for that one lol,that is what happens when you are high level.

 

[CPA]

So, GMG has the game for $30. I'm guessing it's worth it?

 

[Mem]

So, GMG has the game for $30. I'm guessing it's worth it?

Yes,one of the best games this year and 100 to 200+ hours of worth of playing time


Also two expansions on the way in October as well.


Btw if you do buy and install TW3,make sure you download the 13 free DLCs available,three more are expected over the next few weeks.

 

[CPA]

Yes,one of the best games this year and 100 to 200+ hours of worth of playing time


Also two expansions on the way in October as well.

And just like that, GMG is out of keys.

 

[Mem]

And just like that, GMG is out of keys.

Try GOG or http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/

I've used allkeyshop for lots of my digital purchases ie Fear1,2,3,Farcry 3,The Secret World,Xenonauts,Lords of Xulima,Shadowrun,Risen 3 to name a few.