The Witcher (Show)

[Stuka87]

Yeah, I really liked it. I know there are some that are nit picking it for no good reason other than because they can. But having read all the books and played all four games multiple times, I am really enjoying it.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah, I really liked it. I know there are some that are nit picking it for no good reason other than because they can. But having read all the books and played all four games multiple times, I am really enjoying it.

-Yeah we have a classic case of "nobody hates a series like the fans of the series" going on as far as the Reddit boards are concerned.

The show as a self contained thing is doing a fine job of telling a gripping story, even if it's not consistent with the books or even has lapses in internal consistency.

 

[KB]

Finished Season 2 and I feel the story stands on its own quite well, but deviates too much from the source material for my liking. I understand the complaints as its the books and games that brought fans to the show.

Spoiler

The Voleth Meir demon is totally a new creation and is unnecessary as the books have plenty of monsters and politics. We don't need a new villain. I also don't like the "it feeds on hate" motif as Star Wars already did that "hate leads to the darkside" and its overused. In the end we find out the demon is part of the Wild Hunt, yet in the books and games the Wild Hunt are elves from another sphere, not demons.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Finished Season 2 and I feel the story stands on its own quite well, but deviates too much from the source material for my liking. I understand the complaints as its the books and games that brought fans to the show.

Spoiler

The Voleth Meir demon is totally a new creation and is unnecessary as the books have plenty of monsters and politics. We don't need a new villain. I also don't like the "it feeds on hate" motif as Star Wars already did that "hate leads to the darkside" and its overused. In the end we find out the demon is part of the Wild Hunt, yet in the books and games the Wild Hunt are elves from another sphere, not demons.

- Biggest issue is that the show's creator is whoring his series out with little regard to its integrity. He's in it for the money, and I don't blame him one bit, but he's no George Lucas: holding on tightly to his creation and only allowing his ultimate vision to come through.

If Disney could completely crash and burn on a $4 billion dollar franchise like Star Wars for not understanding what fans are looking for, I don't hold out hopes for Netflix doing much better with The Witcher.

As a filthy casual myself I am sort of mentally approaching it the same way I would something like Star Wars: The books, the show, and the games are all just different narratives told by different (or the same) unreliable narrator (like they're all songs from Dandelion/Jaskier). The story is getting tweeked by the teller for maximum dramatic effect.

 

[zinfamous]

- Biggest issue is that the show's creator is whoring his series out with little regard to its integrity. He's in it for the money, and I don't blame him one bit, but he's no George Lucas: holding on tightly to his creation and only allowing his ultimate vision to come through.

If Disney could completely crash and burn on a $4 billion dollar franchise like Star Wars for not understanding what fans are looking for, I don't hold out hopes for Netflix doing much better with The Witcher.

As a filthy casual myself I am sort of mentally approaching it the same way I would something like Star Wars: The books, the show, and the games are all just different narratives told by different (or the same) unreliable narrator (like they're all songs from Dandelion/Jaskier). The story is getting tweeked by the teller for maximum dramatic effect.

Actually, the showrunner for the Witcher Netflix series is a lady.

 

[Stuka87]

Finished Season 2 and I feel the story stands on its own quite well, but deviates too much from the source material for my liking. I understand the complaints as its the books and games that brought fans to the show.

Spoiler

The Voleth Meir demon is totally a new creation and is unnecessary as the books have plenty of monsters and politics. We don't need a new villain. I also don't like the "it feeds on hate" motif as Star Wars already did that "hate leads to the darkside" and its overused. In the end we find out the demon is part of the Wild Hunt, yet in the books and games the Wild Hunt are elves from another sphere, not demons.

Blood of Elves is a very slow book though. I feel they added a season villain to make it less boring for those that don't know the story. As ultimately they need to make it popular enough to get into the later books where things really pick up. This series introduced a lot of the big characters so come season 3 (which is already written) they can just run with the story.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Actually, the showrunner for the Witcher Netflix series is a lady.

- Right, but the author and owner of The Witcher IP is a man, who is the person I am referencing in my post. I mucked it up a bit by referencing "the show's creator" but what I really meant was the creator of the IP and the universe of the Witcher, who could ultimately have a ton of say in how his property is managed but honestly just does not seem to care so long as he gets paid.

 

[KB]

- Right, but the author and owner of The Witcher IP is a man, who is the person I am referencing in my post. I mucked it up a bit by referencing "the show's creator" but what I really meant was the creator of the IP and the universe of the Witcher, who could ultimately have a ton of say in how his property is managed but honestly just does not seem to care so long as he gets paid.

You are right. He sold off Witcher rights to CD Project Red to continue the story for a measly 9 grand, but later sued them for more when it got popular.

Spoiler

He also killed off Geralt and Yenn in his last book, so he was done with the series.

 

[quikah]

I honestly don't care if they follow the books, as long as the story they do tell is good and keep to the general lore of the world. So far they are doing a pretty good job, some of the dialog is a bit clunky, but I am enjoying it.

 

[Stg-Flame]

This is making it really, really, really difficult not to fire up W3.

As Emporer Palpatine said: "Do it".

 

[Igo69]

Just finished watching Witcher season 2. What a show!

Spoiler I guess?

Spoiler: Spoiler

So all this time Emyhr is Ciri's father, wow, and Emperor of Nilfgard, how?.

 

[Leymenaide]

Finished Season 2 and I feel the story stands on its own quite well, but deviates too much from the source material for my liking. I understand the complaints as its the books and games that brought fans to the show.

Spoiler

The Voleth Meir demon is totally a new creation and is unnecessary as the books have plenty of monsters and politics. We don't need a new villain. I also don't like the "it feeds on hate" motif as Star Wars already did that "hate leads to the darkside" and its overused. In the end we find out the demon is part of the Wild Hunt, yet in the books and games the Wild Hunt are elves from another sphere, not demons.

Busy watching second series. My wife and daughter say it follows the books very well. They both read them in the original Polish. I assume you read the English. In central Europe Witcher has a cult following. It is mostly all new to me.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Busy watching second series. My wife and daughter say it follows the books very well. They both read them in the original Polish. I assume you read the English. In central Europe Witcher has a cult following. It is mostly all new to me.

-Funny that they say that. On r/Witcher there is basically a full blown crusade against the second season with a lot of grumpy fans arguing it deviates way too much from the books and completely ruins several characters.

 

[sactoking]

Reddit is essentially the Mos Eisley of the internet, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

 

[Igo69]

Witcher season 3 is coming this Summer! Unfortunately Henry's last season too. Don't understand why he is leaving because no one else can play Geralt better than him?

 

[aigomorla]

Witcher season 3 is coming this Summer! Unfortunately Henry's last season too. Don't understand why he is leaving because no one else can play Geralt better than him?

He's getting kicked off.
Its all the Rock's fault.

The TV/Movie studio's got spooked when the Rock started going on his bashing against DC.
Suposidly James Gunn has some influence in other studio's even tho he got fired from marvel.

I do admit the Rock took it a bit too far, and took too many along as collateral damage.
But he also killed DC, and i hope James Gun gets burn't at the stake, because he did just kill off the best superman and wonderman we will see in a very long time, all because of his greed in wanting to outdo Jack Snyder and how he managed to save the entire Superman reboot.

Its really sad, because i really like Henry Cavil, but it seems like the curse of superman has finally caught up to him, when people thought he might dodge the bullet.

Anyways i will probably not see another DC movie, unless its heavily discounted on Amazon.
James Gunn should of just threw in the towel professonally.
Instead he's gonna take WB studio's with his pointless ambition which everyone expects him to be to the gutter, except those who are being paid professionally to try to pad his influence.

 

[AdamK47]

Witcher season 3 is coming this Summer! Unfortunately Henry's last season too. Don't understand why he is leaving because no one else can play Geralt better than him?

The YouTube comments are really telling on how audiences are going to be taking this season and next.

 

[aigomorla]

The YouTube comments are really telling on how audiences are going to be taking this season and next.

Netflix has really gone down in the gutter lately.
I think they care more about K-Drama lately as it has way too many Korean Drama, with nearly 1/3rd of them being Zombie themed.

Ugh im so sick of the zombie theme, from movies, tv shows, to over 5 yrs of video games stuck on that theme.

 

[Stg-Flame]

He's getting kicked off.
Its all the Rock's fault.

From my understanding, Cavill kept pushing the writers to remain true to the books and they didn't want to which created conflict. This is the first I've heard about The Rock influencing anything in regards to The Witcher.

 

[aigomorla]

From my understanding, Cavill kept pushing the writers to remain true to the books and they didn't want to which created conflict. This is the first I've heard about The Rock influencing anything in regards to The Witcher.

i heard its a combo of things.

But here:

The Rock is being blamed for the ending of Henry Cavill's Superman, just weeks after taking credit for his revival

Talk about going too hard, too fast.

wegotthiscovered.com

I heard this was the start.
But i heard it was more James Gunn and his need to beat "Man of Steel."
Then rock blew up.
Then people started to get pissed.

Netflix decided its not worth keeping him on a series they intend to kill off before season 5.
So they chose to let him go and bring in Liam Hemsworth.

Also i heard netflix producers were not confident in Henry after he expressed his interest in Warhammer 40K.
But what got them scared first was that he might leave for a new superman movie.

This is what i picked up from reddit and other people, also what a lot of people on reddit seem to think about it.

I wonder if they are gonna do Horus Heresy, as its probably one of the most important turning point in WH40K.
A Lot of people are sort of glad he left Witcher.
I am more wondering if Cavil tho will be Guilliman or a random UltraMarine made to fill story.

 

[Artorias]

The only people I trust to produce any decent Warhammer content is HBO. Hopefully they learned their lesson with GOT.

As for Witcher, the showrunners thought they know better than the author of the franchise and alienated a lot fans including Cavil himself.

Classic case of get woke, go broke. It's amazing how hard is for producers to not mess something already setup for success.

 

[Anasabdullah]

I'm not really upset that Henry is leaving. For me, the most perfect witch is in the game. I wonder who they'll replace him with?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I'm not really upset that Henry is leaving. For me, the most perfect witch is in the game. I wonder who they'll replace him with?

- I believe the next game will take a "make your own Witcher" approach with a character builder etc given with CDPR did with Cyberpunk and the fact that Geralt's story is done after W3.

Character will likely be a new creation from whole cloth, not a prexisting character from Witcher lore if I had to guess.

 

[Stg-Flame]

I'm not really upset that Henry is leaving. For me, the most perfect witch is in the game. I wonder who they'll replace him with?

Liam Hemsworth is replacing Cavill in the TV series.

I believe the next game will take a "make your own Witcher" approach with a character builder etc given with CDPR did with Cyberpunk and the fact that Geralt's story is done after W3.

I've been hoping for years that they take a more creative approach by expanding the lore of one of the other Witchers like Lambert or Eskel or even creating their own from a different school. However, after playing Cyberpunk, I honestly don't think they have the right creative minds to create any functional lore in the Witcher universe without heavily relying on outside sources. At least with the three games they had the books and Andrzej Sapkowski to consult for everything but I seem to recall he said he was done working with CDPR after The Wild Hunt was released. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to see more Witcher games in the future but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Anasabdullah]

- I believe the next game will take a "make your own Witcher" approach with a character builder etc given with CDPR did with Cyberpunk and the fact that Geralt's story is done after W3.

Character will likely be a new creation from whole cloth, not a prexisting character from Witcher lore if I had to guess.

Well, I think it's not such a bad idea, if you can create your own character. Although, as usually happens, the idea may be good, but the execution.... not so much)