AA is racial discrimination, and has no place in a society based on fairness and freedom, liberal equalist bullshit notwithstanding.
Not to pick on your post in particular, but it echos a fairly consistent idea that others have on here.
When you say AA is in opposition to "fairness and freedom", you are ignoring the fact that absent any type of AA there is no "fairness and freedom". "Fairness and freedom" are not existent either way, but at least with AA you are looking to undo the damage and right the ship.
You can't bring over an entire race as slaves for centuries, and just 150 years ago set them "free", then just 50 years ago set them "equal". You can't just "free and equal" a group after that and say, "ok everything is even and square now". Blacks didn't create a culture in which there are still people alive (and in powerful positions) who remember when they couldn't drink from the same water fountain as them.
Our country/society created a culture, that through hundreds of years of slavery and social injustice creates huge barriers. Systemic issues have created a society in which blacks do not have the same opportunities as everyone else because of those barriers. It isn't overt racism, it is just lingering remnants from hundreds of years of state sponsored oppression that we haven't gotten out of our collective system.
It is foolish to follow up that terrible injustice by just saying, "hey we freed you so everything is even, right?" We as a country have a long way to go to fix the mess we created, and if we really care about "fairness and freedom" we will have to open doors for others. Even if others want to cry "racism" while remaining wholly ignorant of the situation.
if it wasn't for AA, I may have never been accepted to college. thanks and long live AA!
Asians need no help, unlike black people.
if it wasn't for AA, I may have never been accepted to college. thanks and long live AA!
if it wasn't for AA, I may have never been accepted to college. thanks and long live AA!
Asians need no help, unlike black people.
if it wasn't for AA, I may have never been accepted to college. thanks and long live AA!
Why do black people need help? what makes them so special?
Because he thinks we're inferior to Asians.
Or something... It was a totally inappropriate comment.
Maybe he thinks every single one of us is helpless. I'll tell you right now, I don't need no stinkin help from da white man. :whiste:
Southeast Asians came to this country penniless and with just as many barriers, today they have higher college enrollment rates than Non-Hispanic Whites, and comparable childhood poverty rates.
Come come come, self-hater, you know you just feel inferior. Nobody in their right mind would chose to have your ugly white skin and your short dick all connected up to a brain that can't think.
You can't bring over an entire race as slaves for centuries, and just 150 years ago set them "free", then just 50 years ago set them "equal". You can't just "free and equal" a group after that and say, "ok everything is even and square now". Blacks didn't create a culture in which there are still people alive (and in powerful positions) who remember when they couldn't drink from the same water fountain as them.
So are you suggesting that Asians have white privilege, or that black people are inferior to Asians?
The answer is "it depends". When there was institutionalized discrimination then there was merit to the idea. Now we still have problems but they tend to be more individual in nature, and the idea that one is "entitled" has caused a lot of headaches. Higher education has fits with this.
Bullshit. There isn't an American alive today that was a slave, not a single one, and the youngest that remember even the 60's is well on into their 50's. The only thing keeping racism alive today are relics, and people that don't want to give up their trump card.
You tell me, facts are facts. Asians are over represented in Colleges on their own merit and AA if it applied to Asians would be overkill, black people struggle to get into College even with outside help [AA]. With no AA, black College enrollment drops like a rock, and its not due to discrimination but failing tests at a higher rate than Whites or Asians fail at [but the Tests are probably racist right?].
Myself I am all for a merit based society [as much as it is possible atleast], if that means that a work team becomes less diverse [ie-more white or more asian] in the future then so be it. The best people got the job.
Honestly, does it matter if it was institutionalized discrimination? The debate should be whether discrimination is still prevalent. And if one race is still discriminated against based on the past laws and actions of the US. Why wouldn't it be ok to make the wrong right?
Are you arguing that discrimination still doesn't exist. In 1968 MLK was shot. If you were 20 in 1968, you'd be about 64 today. Think about the avg age of all the judges, legislatures etc. in our country. Discrimination has been de-institutionalized but it was institutionalized originally because people FELT deeply in their core that it was ok. And those deep convictions nor the damage that it caused don't simply fade overnight because laws were passed.
Let me ask you a question, what do you believe this trump card get African Americans?
And most of those people have died/are dying. If you're waiting for perfection you'll be waiting forever, it doesn't exist.
Yet you'll vote for obama who intends to just the opposite since according to him certain people need welfare
Hmmm. So, you agree that if racism were still prevalent despite the laws then AA would be ok?
Do you believe the amount of people who are racist are finite? That beliefs of parents don't influence children?