Hmm.. Interesting. Tell me some more on your beliefs on Natural selection. Are you arguing blacks are inferior intellectually based on natural selection?
Gee I wonder if the same selection pressures and biological changes which lead certain subgroups within humanity to develop certain things might also prepare them more for, and give them an advantage at those same things now!
Nah! not a chance... after all, there is a magical shell around the human brain which prevents evolution and natural selection from impacting it, to protect peoples' feelings. Thank goodness for that!
Hmmm. So, you agree that if racism were still prevalent despite the laws then AA would be ok?
Do you believe the amount of people who are racist are finite? That beliefs of parents don't influence children?
Um ...no. Because in reality it isn't "prevalent". Maybe my experience has been an anomaly, but all but two of my black friends went to college, my sister in law is a lawyer, in the Army I had team leaders, platoon leaders, company commanders, hell our division commander was black. In case you missed it, the president is black too. So yea, there's some ignorant fucks still running around that hate them some brown people, and yes, in some ways society is still designed to keep people in place, but guess what? White people, mexicans, 'ricans are all stuck in those same fucked up places.
No, but it's how we raise our children that changes things, and I know what my parents were raised with, and I know how they raised me, and I know how I raise my son, and I have watched hate die off generation, after generation. It sickens me when people continue to use it to push their agenda.
quite frankly I wish it weren't necessary.
As long as a white male felon has an equal chance of getting a job as a black male with a clean record, we need it.
So umm. Yeah, I'm black. I don't think it's right for you to presume to speak for my experiences having never walked in my shoes.
I once challenged some people on this board to change their avatar on their favorite online game to a black person for a month. Turn the chat on and see what type of interaction you get when people are in the comfort of their homes (i.e private thought). You would be surprised.
btw. Why not sit down and ask your sister in law her experiences? Show her this thread and see what she thinks.
My question is. If racism were still prevalent would you support affirmative action? Assume if it were.
So umm. Yeah, I'm black. I don't think it's right for you to presume to speak for my experiences having never walked in my shoes.
I once challenged some people on this board to change their avatar on their favorite online game to a black person for a month. Turn the chat on and see what type of interaction you get when people are in the comfort of their homes (i.e private thought). You would be surprised.
btw. Why not sit down and ask your sister in law her experiences? Show her this thread and see what she thinks.
How can you have a merit based society, when the game is rigged for some. It's like playing poker with 4 cards, blindfolded and expecting to win.
Or are you saying that blacks are inherently inferior that is why they can't make it into college?
What do you mean by "rigged"? That its a racist pro-white system ? Asians are not white and do fine, as a group they are more successful than white people are in this country.
Also how is a test unfair, if X person wants to become a Doctor then study for it, the fact that some groups still fail in this nation despite AA and its many bonuses is pretty sad. Comparing Black people to Asians is valid since it throws away the concept that racism is the root cause of certain groups failing...And puts the blame on them/their culture/whatever the hell else the problem is.
Think about it this way, white people are getting their dues for oppressing Asians in this country. The Chinese built the railroads and the Japanese were put in concentration camp.
This is Asia's wrath upon you pasty creatures!!!
NO! White people didn't oppress Asians, are you forgetting Pearl Harbor?
I used to play CounterStrike a lot when I was younger. I'd come into the room and try to join in with a game and participate in the voice chat. When people suspected that I was not white, I was asked "hey, are you black?". Of course, I would answer truthfully and then would become subject to a barrage of insults and jokes about my race.
Oh boy, you don't know some of the things I've had said to me over the internet simply because I am black.
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Sorry, I found this funny. Saying you ran into racist, rude, morons playing CS is like saying you woke up and breathed air, kind of a "no shit". Believe it or not, every race, even whites, have been slaves at one time, and no color is immune to racist attacks. I've had a gun in my face for being white in the wrong place, pulled over for being in the wrong neighborhood, yadda, yadda. It's funny my friend and me, he's black btw, used to go downtown in Austin, and without fail black dudes would ask me what we were looking for, and white dudes would ask him if he was holding. It's not the fucking 50's anymore. Yea, there's lessons to learn from the past, but clinging to it, and trying to make it relevant today is counterproductive.
I play a game online when I get a chance. Depending on when you join, they give you an avatar. Min was a white female. I got the normal "bitch" comments once in a while, but had generally good games. I decided to chang my avatar to represent me. Wow. The games changes 180 deg. I barely finished a game. People were antagonistic and "nigg*rs" were flying fast and free. Very eye opening.
Who said I was clinging to anything? Take a chill pill.
I'm just recalling incidents of people being assholes.
It's 2012. The people competent and capable of holding jobs will hold jobs. The ones not fit for jobs will not.
Why don't we talk about reparations. That could be a more lively topic.
Why? Why do you want to keep it alive?
Please quote where I did. You can't, because I didn't, quite the opposite in fact.
That's just silly. I'll let you in on a little secret, no one here would know you are black unless you tell them. YOU are the one making it into an issue. Stop using it as an excuse and reap the benefits of life, many, many, many black people have. There are black people at every level of society, and in every level of business, and every level of government. Poverty doesn't know color, and there's poor, drug addicted, welfare dependent whites out there, with no opportunity also.
I don't think she cares about the internet beyond checking email, this isn't the real world.
Reparations for what? How many slaves, or slave owner do you know? The whole concept of paying a particular race because of something that no living person did is beyond fucking retarded.
NO! White people didn't oppress Asians, are you forgetting Pearl Harbor?
And have any of those incidents been at the hand of another black person?