Three questions

[Craig234]

1. If I upgrade/replace an SSD with Windows 10 boot on it - upgraded from a long-lost Windows 7 CD - how do I make the new SSD a bootable Windows 10 CD? What software to use?

2. Upgrading/replacing a HD going bad, same question what software to use to copy the date, but the old HD is going bad and had a lot of 'reallocating sectors' type messages - is there any issue with if the old drive has sections marked as bad, that a copy might copy that and mark the sections bad on the HD, and how to avoid?

3. I forgot in the time it took to type the above.

Don't you hate that, I'll edit if I remember.

 

[XavierMace]

Download Microsoft's Media Creation tool to make a boot CD (ew) or USB thumb drive.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

Install windows on new SSD.

 

[Burpo]

http://www.todo-backup.com/backup-resource/copy-and-clone-hard-drive.htm

 

[Elixer]

1. If I upgrade/replace an SSD with Windows 10 boot on it - upgraded from a long-lost Windows 7 CD - how do I make the new SSD a bootable Windows 10 CD? What software to use?

You can use MS's ISO creation tool like was mentioned above, then when you install win10, it should auto-activate.

2. Upgrading/replacing a HD going bad, same question what software to use to copy the date, but the old HD is going bad and had a lot of 'reallocating sectors' type messages - is there any issue with if the old drive has sections marked as bad, that a copy might copy that and mark the sections bad on the HD, and how to avoid?

You first want to clone the HD to another known good HD.
If there are bad blocks, I would use ddrecsue.
Once that is done, on the cloned copy of the HD, I would run testdisk, and recover anything that way.
Obviously, the old HD is pretty much a door stop, so either sell the PCB, or smash it with a hammer, and remove the nice magnets.

 

[Craig234]

Download Microsoft's Media Creation tool to make a boot CD (ew) or USB thumb drive.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

Install windows on new SSD.

But I don't want a new clean OS SSD, I want a copy of the current boot SSD with all the rest of the data on the new one.

I'm not clear on this process.

 

[Elixer]

You can clone the current SSD to the new SSD, they come with cloning software, or you can use the free versions or Macrium Reflect, or Acronis or ... and either clone directly to the device, or clone to a file, then use the file to write to the new SSD.
I am unclear why you want it on a CD?

 

[Craig234]

http://www.todo-backup.com/backup-resource/copy-and-clone-hard-drive.htm

Thanks. So if I do a file copy of a boot SSD to another, will the new one be able to boot from? Or does it need to be a sector copy? Or something else?

 

[Craig234]

You can clone the current SSD to the new SSD, they come with cloning software, or you can use the free versions or Macrium Reflect, or Acronis or ... and either clone directly to the device, or clone to a file, then use the file to write to the new SSD.
I am unclear why you want it on a CD?

I don't want it on a CD, I didn't mention a CD. Hm, comes with cloning software? Downloadable from the web site I assumed, it didn't come with an SSD I checked.

 

[XavierMace]

I don't want it on a CD, I didn't mention a CD. Hm, comes with cloning software? Downloadable from the web site I assumed, it didn't come with an SSD I checked.

About that...

1. If I upgrade/replace an SSD with Windows 10 boot on it - upgraded from a long-lost Windows 7 CD - how do I make the new SSD a bootable Windows 10 CD? What software to use?

Hence our confusion. But, most SSD's come with cloning software, yes.

 

[Craig234]

About that...



Hence our confusion. But, most SSD's come with cloning software, yes.

Ah, that was an error. It doesn't even make sense, 'make the new SSD a bootable CD'.

What I'd said before about the cloning software was, so that's downloaded from the web site, since it doesn't seem to come with the SSD?

 

[XavierMace]

I can't speak to the specific SSD you purchased, but all of my Crucial SSD's have had an paper insert with a product key and download instructions for Acronis. I'd assume your SSD would have something similar.

 

[Elixer]

Ah, that was an error. It doesn't even make sense, 'make the new SSD a bootable CD'.

What I'd said before about the cloning software was, so that's downloaded from the web site, since it doesn't seem to come with the SSD?

Yeah, if in the SSD's docs, there is a sheet of paper with a URL / key you use that.
If not, then just get http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx or one of the other ones I mentioned.

 

[Craig234]

OK. Right now, I plan to start with the CPU thermal paste re-do. Hoping I don't need any tools to remove the heat sink and can clean the CPU without removing it.

Then it's on to the drive upgrades. Oh boy.

 

[Burpo]

EaseUS Todo Backup, Disc clone.. Free & easy..

http://www.todo-backup.com/home/

 

[Craig234]

Thanks for the tips - I see the option for a sector clone transfer - but is that the right approach for migrating a HD going bad with bad sectors to a new HD?

 

[Craig234]

duplicate

 

[Craig234]

I'm running EaseUS todo backup now to clone the HD. It had an option for 'sector' copying, I did not select that. Looks like about a 2 hour process.

Minor annoyance: it says it changed the volume label without asking - I hope there are no other surprises.

 

[Craig234]

http://www.todo-backup.com/backup-resource/copy-and-clone-hard-drive.htm

I tried that, and the estimated completion time just kept getting longer. After it seemed to hang about half done, it had run 6 hours with over 5 hours to go.

 

[Burpo]

Then it's likely you're not going to be able to clone the drive (too far gone). Have you run chkdsk on the drive? You might try that and then EaseUS todo.. I wouldn't give up on it, let it run overnight.
I had to save data from an old failing SCSI drive and used the same method to clone. Drive was in bad shape & it took several hours, but I let it run and it finally did complete. The owner was very happy when the new drive booted, even tho we had to run chkdsk on it afterwards, we did save his OS & data. Failing that? You may be able to hook it up as a secondary drive & get most of your important data from it that way, but you're probably not gonna save the OS.

 

[Craig234]

The drive doesn't have the OS on it, so that's not a problem. One option is that when Windows boots, it wants to check the disk - that takes a while so I've been cancelling it, but could let that run - not sure if that's be a replacement for chkdsk. Or, I could find out which chkdsk options to use and run that.

I'm a little disenchanted with EaseUS between its grabbing control and forcing a volume name and the ever-increasing estimated time, so I'm wondering if an xcopy might do the transfer instead, but I could use EaseUS if it's the best approach.

 

[XavierMace]

You have a large, failing drive. It's going to take forever to clone, if you can even clone it successfully. Don't blame the software because your hardware is dying. If it even completes successfully, I have no trouble believing it's going to run overnight. I've had to do that with much smaller drives. The other option is try a hardware duplicator instead, such as https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-SATA-Hard-Drive-Duplicator/dp/B003WV5DLA.

 

[Craig234]

I don't blame the software for the problems with the HW, but I blame it for some other things, like a lack of feedback about what's happening and what seems to be a poor 'estimated time calculator' and a progress bar that shoots to some point then stays there for hours and other things.

At least with the xcopy now running, I can see what it's copying and error messages.

I can't even tell how the clone program handles problems, does it hang forever on them? Skip them? Wait how long?

 

[XavierMace]

It's hanging because your drive is failing. I'll give you that it should give you a message sayings it's having problems, but that still not going to change anything.

 

[Craig234]

It's hanging because your drive is failing. I'll give you that it should give you a message sayings it's having problems, but that still not going to change anything.

I agree with that.

As I said, it's not the drive problems I take issue with the SW for.

 

[mangcap]

I'm using win7 people thought I should update a win10 not, I use the laptop samsung company, Interface 10 I looked over saw Fiddly.