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CZroe

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No they are new here in the north. Deer ticks too. Some parts of Canada had them but not here. There's all sorts of advisories and such from the government too. It's a pretty serious issue, hopefully they can figure something out, maybe this is going to be one of those things where every couple years they are strong but rest they are dormant. Kinda like tent caterpillars. Though I have a bad feeling they are here to stay, this is more of a climate change thing.

As a kid I used to go play in the bush all the time, ticks were never an issue. If yes I'd probably be dead or severely ill now.

Ticks. Are. Not. New. To. Canada.

That article I showed accepting that is from a Canadian perspective and several years old but every populated region of Canada that isn’t actively treated has had ticks since before they had people. "Some parts" of Canada had more than others but that’s just the varying population density I keep mentioning. All populated areas of Canada have had some non zero level of natural tick activity since before they were ever populated. It’s bizarre that you are so convinced of the opposite when there is literally nothing to suggest otherwise.

Ticks don’t live in the desert and ticks don’t live in Antarctica but they darn sure live in the populated regions of Canada. This isn’t "new." Perhaps a certain species or population explosion or pathogen is "new" to your region but you keep reacting to every tick sighting in your area and saying that is "new" regardless of species.
 

Red Squirrel

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Because it is new here where I live. This does not represent all of Canada. We've never had anything dangerous like this in the north because it's always been too cold. Maybe the oddball one that somehow makes it in, but not an actual self sustaining population of them.

This talks more about it: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/changing-climate-brings-ticks-lyme-disease-into-canada-1.2387044

Notice how the "B" map starts in 2011. That map does not cover my area but the "C" one does. These are just estimates on growth over time but it gives a general idea. I live roughly at same latitude as the end of Lake Superior.

This article also talks about how they are fairly new:

https://www.timminstimes.com/health...bomb/wcm/3d9a94bd-b47a-48b5-b037-7435acbab782


When Americans think Canada, they think only about the south. There is WAY more to Canada than just the south.
 

CZroe

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Because it is new here where I live. This does not represent all of Canada. We've never had anything dangerous like this in the north because it's always been too cold. Maybe the oddball one that somehow makes it in, but not an actual self sustaining population of them.

This talks more about it: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/changing-climate-brings-ticks-lyme-disease-into-canada-1.2387044

Notice how the "B" map starts in 2011. That map does not cover my area but the "C" one does. These are just estimates on growth over time but it gives a general idea. I live roughly at same latitude as the end of Lake Superior.

This article also talks about how they are fairly new:

https://www.timminstimes.com/health...bomb/wcm/3d9a94bd-b47a-48b5-b037-7435acbab782


When Americans think Canada, they think only about the south. There is WAY more to Canada than just the south.
That’s specifically talking about one species of disease carrying tick. That’s precisely the distinguishment I have made every time you talk about “ticks“ being new to Canada or your area.

Every time you expressed concern about someone in your area finding another non specific tick you make it clear that you think ticks in general are new. They aren’t. There are many different kinds of ticks even where Deer Ticks have been all along and I’m telling you that you have other kinds of ticks in Canada too... sounds like you’ve just been blissfully unaware. Migratory birds see to it that ticks can end up anywhere in Canada where they may not have a well established local population and that has ALWAYS been the case.

When I said anywhere people live in Canada I was saying anywhere in Canada with a significant year round human population that lives your modern Internet connected lifestyle. Maybe not at some Arctic Circle outpost in the Yukon where there is permafrost but, well, that’s why I specifically excluded those places with the way I worded it. Clearly I was considering more than just the southernmost parts of Canada. Ticks need hosts be that wildlife or pets or humans. Heck, I bet your typical reindeer or wolf is loaded with them.
 

BD231

Lifer
Feb 26, 2001
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Fake ass ticks with no women for the sim. Way to make a simulater that gets ruined by stuck up tick ass low lyfe ticks.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Because it is new here where I live. This does not represent all of Canada. We've never had anything dangerous like this in the north because it's always been too cold. Maybe the oddball one that somehow makes it in, but not an actual self sustaining population of them.

This talks more about it: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/changing-climate-brings-ticks-lyme-disease-into-canada-1.2387044

Notice how the "B" map starts in 2011. That map does not cover my area but the "C" one does. These are just estimates on growth over time but it gives a general idea. I live roughly at same latitude as the end of Lake Superior.

This article also talks about how they are fairly new:

https://www.timminstimes.com/health...bomb/wcm/3d9a94bd-b47a-48b5-b037-7435acbab782


When Americans think Canada, they think only about the south. There is WAY more to Canada than just the south.
"Self sustaining"

Nah. They're parasites; just like fleas and mosquitoes.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Fake ass ticks with no women for the sim. Way to make a simulater that gets ruined by stuck up tick ass low lyfe ticks.
Other people will think you're fooling around, but I've seen your posting history. For your sake, I'm not going to be sensitive and I will not dance around the issue. I'll be straightforward: You're a nutcase who has threatened violence against strangers based on your paranoid delusions. I hope you get the help you need.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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Other people will think you're fooling around, but I've seen your posting history. For your sake, I'm not going to be sensitive and I will not dance around the issue. I'll be straightforward: You're a nutcase who has threatened violence against strangers based on your paranoid delusions. I hope you get the help you need.


I was just going to say he was a troll but no argument.
 

Red Squirrel

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"Self sustaining"

Nah. They're parasites; just like fleas and mosquitoes.

Well I meant that they lay eggs and keep multiplying. I'm sure we've had the odd ball tick fall from a bird in the past but if the conditions were not right it was probably not able to reproduce and multiply. But now the climate is allowing them to.

So yes there probably was always ticks here but they were so rare and they were not thriving like they are now. Through some stuff I've read says they are not quite that bad yet and may get worse.

Think they will need to consider ways to control them like encouraging the population of certain predators to thrive. They are basically an invasive species that spread disease so quite serious.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Well I meant that they lay eggs and keep multiplying. I'm sure we've had the odd ball tick fall from a bird in the past but if the conditions were not right it was probably not able to reproduce and multiply. But now the climate is allowing them to.

So yes there probably was always ticks here but they were so rare and they were not thriving like they are now. Through some stuff I've read says they are not quite that bad yet and may get worse.

Think they will need to consider ways to control them like encouraging the population of certain predators to thrive. They are basically an invasive species.

No. Canada has about forty endemic species of ticks. The articles about Global Warming bringing disease carrying ticks and drawing parallels to other invasive species are talking specifically about the black legged deer tick. Ticks have always been nearly as much a part of Canada’s ecosystem as the rest of North America.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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Well the black legged ones are the ones to really worry about. TBH did not even know there was that many species originally when I heard about them and I don't even care about the ones that arn't dangerous or whether or not they were already around. It's the lyme disease ones that are the danger and those ones are new.

Though still I don't remember ever seeing or hearing of any other tick at all here or hearing about them in general till recently. But if the dangerous ones were not around then they were probably just like any other bug and nobody really cared.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Well the black legged ones are the ones to really worry about. TBH did not even know there was that many species originally when I heard about them and I don't even care about the ones that arn't dangerous or whether or not they were already around. It's the lyme disease ones that are the danger and those ones are new.

Though still I don't remember ever seeing or hearing of any other tick at all here or hearing about them in general till recently. But if the dangerous ones were not around then they were probably just like any other bug and nobody really cared.
The other ones that were there all along carry other diseases too.

I know you were only worried about that one. That’s why I was trying to give you perspective when you would express particular concern about an unspecified tick being “found” around you. It isn’t that a tick was found that is significant, it’s what tick was found where and whether or not it potentially carries a concerning disease.
 
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