Tiger Woods is a Jackass

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: maverick2604

Originally posted by: bigfil
welp tiger woods or not

if you get excellent service you tip, bar none
in this day and age its not an option

of course it's an option, that's why is tipping. if someone wants to tip they waill. if they don't, they don't. it's always been this way, as far as I can remember.

you're wrong. it's not an option. it's an implied rule. why dont you try and serve a month and see how you like people saying tipping is optional.[/quote]

how can you say it's not an option? of course it is. i'm not forced to pay a tip, i freely give it. go to europe and eat at a restaurant there and you'll see the difference between a forced tip and they way we tip. and btw i was a server for 4yeasr at a local downtown san diego restaurant, so i KNOW what it's like not getting tipped. as a server you deal with it, you just continue to provide good service no matter what and it eventually evens out for you.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: WW

Originally posted by: meltdown75
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My inlaws drove to Illinois where Tiger was holding a clinic later that day. Before anything got started, Tiger spent over an hour with my brother-in-law, hitting balls and just shooting the breeze. He had some security guards parked about 300 yds away on golf carts and Tiger was firing drives at them for laughs. Bottom line is that my bro-in-law said he was a genuinely nice person. My wife also met him and said the same.

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Yep, Tiger sounds genuinely nice...I wonder if those security guards, that he could have killed, got good tips that day?

here's a tip: shut up.

he was hitting drives in the general direction of the guards. as if he was trying to hurt his own security guards. man, people here sure do try hard to be idiots sometimes.

LOL hahahahha. Nice one meltdown

 

[RadioHead84]

I tip ototally on service. If she/he rocked then ill give her more then the regular..If she was ok ill give her some...if she sucked...too bad you get nothing.

 

[NarcoticHobo]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
true story.

After a golf tournament at Akrons Firestone Country Club, Tiger Woods took a group of people out to Akrons nicest restraunt (i dont know name), the waitress bent over backwards to accomadate the group and made sure everything was perfect for them. after waitressing them for 3+ hours, tiger paid the $600+ bill and didnt tip the waitress any money. The waitress complained to the owner, and the owner asked Tiger why he did not tip. to which he replied "I do not tip, i feel they should be paid a fair wage"

the owner tipped the waitress out of his pocket.

i find it bullshit that Tiger doesnt tip waiters/waitresses, you have more money than anyone basically, but dont tip? seriously just tip, damnit thats arrogant.

Tiger just went down a lot in my book when i heard that.

http://www.stainedapron.com/celebs.htm

I pay my way through college on tips from waiting and I think what he did is reasonable. Sometimes a social statement is a little more important than one persons pocket.

 

[nino]

While Tiger screws waiters/waitresses because of his cause he doesn't do the right thing so I'm not so sure he's REALLY doing it because of his cause.

If Tiger feels so strongly about his cause that he's willing to see a waiter/waitress go without pay and therefore lose money because of him then he should...

a) never go to a restaurant that pays less than minimum wage to the employees including waiters/waitresses

b) use his celebrity to champion the cause and put pressure on the restaurants

Since he's done neither, I'll conclude that he's a cheap prick, albeit a cheap prick that has a SMOKIN wife :-D

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

1) Wealthy people typically tip less because they eat out more often (support restaurants). Irrelevent, but non-the-less

2) If it was a large group, the gratuity should have been added.

3) I call shens. no one would request a patron to tip!

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: SampSon
A person can have personal beliefs and stick by them regardless of how much money they have.
I find it amazing that people feel that if you are wealthy you should automatically be more liberal with your money.
Feelings of entitlement due to jealousy of someone elses wealth? I think so.

if you dont want to tip then dont go out to a service industry where tips are typically well known to pay for waitresses.

Fortunatly the world isn't black and white. Just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean you should not be able to participate. See above post about feelings of entitlement. Tips are now a way for restaurant owners to underpay their servers and pass along the cost to consumers. Tips should be a way to show your gratuity for excellent service, and not a socially enforced status quo.

im jealous of my brother who makes $6.25 an hour, as a busser, and then gets his share of Tips, he is the only busser at the restraunt, he comes home with $30 after 4 hours of work, b4 his actual wage.

You're jealous of a kid who makes $7.50 an hour plus maybe another $3.25? You should spend less time posting and more time getting an education and looking for a good job.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
true story.

After a golf tournament at Akrons Firestone Country Club, Tiger Woods took a group of people out to Akrons nicest restraunt (i dont know name), the waitress bent over backwards to accomadate the group and made sure everything was perfect for them. after waitressing them for 3+ hours, tiger paid the $600+ bill and didnt tip the waitress any money. The waitress complained to the owner, and the owner asked Tiger why he did not tip. to which he replied "I do not tip, i feel they should be paid a fair wage"

the owner tipped the waitress out of his pocket.

i find it bullshit that Tiger doesnt tip waiters/waitresses, you have more money than anyone basically, but dont tip? seriously just tip, damnit thats arrogant.

Tiger just went down a lot in my book when i heard that.

http://www.stainedapron.com/celebs.htm

While I don't agree with him not tipping her, I do agree with him about owners needing to pay waiters/waitresses fair wages rather than relying on tips.

Another economics whiz. Fine, pay waiters and waitresses a better wage. Who foots the bill for it? Think it's coming out of the owners pocket? All they'd do is raise the prices and you'd wind up spending the same as tipping anyway, it just wouldn't be quite as obvious.

I like the current tipping system. The server has a HUGE impact on how good the dining experience is. The ones who excel should make more and those who go through the motions should get less. Unfortunately there are always going to be a$$holes who try to cover their own cheapness with excuses about restaurants paying a better wage. The system is what it is and when you sit down in a restaurant you damn well understand it. Failure to tip isn't a comment on the system, it's just a cheap idiot acting like a cheap idiot.

Agreed. The system actually provides an incentive for waiters to do a good job. Besides, its too late to change the system now even if there were a good argument for it, people will overtip during the short term after a change and the waiters will get too used it and in the medium term provide poor service if they are not overtipped.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Malak
I used to pull in between $40 and $70 a night doing pizza delivery. The ones that didn't tip didn't piss us off. It was the ones that told you to keep the change which was usually only a nickel, or the ones that actually told us they couldn't afford to tip.

WHY man?

Are you not getting paid to deliver stuff already from the owners of the business? I work in a takeaway also and don't give a sh!t if people tip or not. It is a 'bonus' for me. I get paid arleady.

But I'm in the UK so we expect to tip less or not get one.

Also WHY isn't the boss paying her enough so that she doesn't need tips? It is supposedly a 'higher end place'.

I guess it is the Usa tipping culture?

Koing

Look, I've had this argument with someone from the U.K. and suffice it to say that no matter how many times we explain that it is a different system around here you guys can't seem to get the hang of it.

If you want to come here and serve us bangers and mash and kidney pie in a place where tipping is completely optional so as to help us change our "Usa tipping culture," you're more than welcome to.

 

[Alex4412]

I tip based on how well the service is... If im ignored, not asked for drinks, asked how the meal is going, or if I'm waiting for ever for a certain item I just simple won't tip. They arent doing there job if they do such a thing.

I was at a local restaurant in my town that I took my girlfriend to, I usualy tip 20% after the meal no matter what the cost is, but this waitress basicaly completely ignored us. Most likely due to the fact that we were young. Big mistake... took her table up for more then long enough and left without a tip. My philosphy is that they need to work for the tip. It is a tip for a reason.

 

[maverick2604]

Originally posted by: jpbelauskas

Originally posted by: maverick2604

Originally posted by: bigfil
welp tiger woods or not

if you get excellent service you tip, bar none
in this day and age its not an option

of course it's an option, that's why is tipping. if someone wants to tip they waill. if they don't, they don't. it's always been this way, as far as I can remember.

you're wrong. it's not an option. it's an implied rule. why dont you try and serve a month and see how you like people saying tipping is optional.

how can you say it's not an option? of course it is. i'm not forced to pay a tip, i freely give it. go to europe and eat at a restaurant there and you'll see the difference between a forced tip and they way we tip. and btw i was a server for 4yeasr at a local downtown san diego restaurant, so i KNOW what it's like not getting tipped. as a server you deal with it, you just continue to provide good service no matter what and it eventually evens out for you.[/quote]



well, i've been to europe and experienced the "non-tipping". I've also bartended there for a bit and was pleasantly surprised when i was tipped a euro or two. I also am currently a waiter now. Of course you have the option to tip, but in this country the fact that it is implied to tip overrides your freedom to choose.

 

[compnovice]

A tip based on % does not make any sense.....

If I order a $100 caviar, the waitress makes one trip to the table...
Instead, if I order 10 of $10 entrees, the waitress makes atleast 3 tips to the table...
Is the same tip justified for both cases?

 

[HomeAppraiser]

The list on the link sorta reads like a limousine Democrats vs. country republicans split.

The Brett Butler types who got fame and fortune overnight tend to feel guilty about it and tip well.
The Tiger Woods self righteous and it was my talent types say screw you.

What's with the Black people don't tip thing?

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Koing
DUDE Chinese restaurants ALWAYS charge you a 10% AUTOMATICALLy on to your bill.

I'm in England we don't have this 'tipping culture' as much as you guys in the states. Most places here pay pretty well for a waitering jobs.

Tipping here is optional.

Koing

Very true. My wife went to a restaurant in Ireland, and the waitress knew she was an American because my wife handed her a tip.

 

[alphatarget1]

I'd imagine such an expensive meal would've had 15% included already, but correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Blazin Trav]

I agree with OP, no tip.... wtf? Tip her.

 

[compuwiz1]

I tip only when it's deserved. People who are in a customer service position, should not have bad behaviour reinforced.
Those who tip all the time, are really saying, it's ok to give me crappy service...you'll still get a tip.
Good service gets 10%
Great service gets 15%
Superior service gets 20-25%

Poor service gets nothing. That person, who provides poor service, has no business being in that business.

 

[Allio]

Originally posted by: gsellis
New Zealand used to be this way. Not sure now.

Yeah, we are. I'm not reading this whole thread because tipping arguments are about as retarded as circumcision arguments, but our service - like Europe's, Australia's and the rest of the world's - is perfectly fine. Maybe our servers do their jobs properly because they're paid a fair freaking wage from the start instead of having to drop everything in order to cater to every whim of a rich customer at the expense of the rest because they're hoping to sucker a large tip.

Ugh.

 

[feelingshorter]

after 3 HOURS of service and no tip? You gotta be kidding me

 

[thecrecarc]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I tip only when it's deserved. People who are in a customer service position, should not have bad behaviour reinforced.
Those who tip all the time, are really saying, it's ok to give me crappy service...you'll still get a tip.
Good service gets 10%
Great service gets 15%
Superior service gets 20-25%

Poor service gets nothing. That person, who provides poor service, has no business being in that business.

Originally posted by: feelingshorter
after 3 HOURS of service and no tip? You gotta be kidding me

ya! that and the waitress bent over backwards to accomadate the group and made sure everything was perfect for them.

that is superior service i say