Time for Kerry to concede?

[lordtyranus]

vote now

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I tend to think so. If it were truly close (as it was in 2000), I would say no, but under the circumstances I think a concession is probably in order. I don't really blame him, but I hope he concedes fairly soon.

 

[freakflag]

At this point, I gotta say...who gives a fvck.
I'm going to bed.

 

[Valvoline6]

With the margin as large as it is the democrats stand to do more damage to themselves by not conceeding.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I tend to think so. If it were truly close (as it was in 2000), I would say no, but under the circumstances I think a concession is probably in order. I don't really blame him, but I hope he concedes fairly soon.

Does not look like that is going to happen. Looks like they are calling their legal team.

 

[Infohawk]

I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

 

[FoBoT]

the Democratic lawyers are boarding planes to hit the Ohio courts in the morning

the Dems are going to try and steal Ohio from Pres. Bush in the courts

 

Not at this second but things are looking grim as hell for him. Take a lesson from Gore, John. Don't be a bitch about it. Concede, grow a beard, and enjoy the lecture circuit.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

What flaws can you see that can overcome 120k+ votes?

The left has complained about Bush dividing our country, but it seems to me now like they are trying their best to do so.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

What flaws can you see that can overcome 120k+ votes?

The left has complained about Bush dividing our country, but it seems to me now like they are trying their best to do so.

There's more votes to count dude. Count the votes, then celebrate. There's no rush.

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

What flaws can you see that can overcome 120k+ votes?

The left has complained about Bush dividing our country, but it seems to me now like they are trying their best to do so.

Wait for the votes to be counted. I think we can all agree on that.

 

[PELarson]

Still lto early. Ohio hasn't even finished counting and won't for 10 days. Iowa has stopped counting because of problems and fatigue. As many Republicans like to point out the popular vote isn't as important as the Electoral College count.

Bush 249
Kerry 242

 

[Beller0ph1]

Originally posted by: freakflag
At this point, I gotta say...who gives a fvck.
I'm going to bed.

Here here. Witha margin of 125k +, I think its time to throw in the towel,

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

You are JOKING. There will be PLENTY of whining this time around as well. I predict a Florida style mess, but it will not get very far. Kerry doesnt have a leg to stand on....

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: PELarson
Still lto early. Ohio hasn't even finished counting and won't for 10 days. Iowa has stopped counting because of problems and fatigue. As many Republicans like to point out the popular vote isn't as important as the Electoral College count.

Bush 249
Kerry 242

If this is the case why has Michigan been given to Kerry? Pennsylvania? The margin in PA is now only 170k. New Hampshire?

And yet New Mexico with a 5% margin is "still up in the air"

Wait for the votes to be counted. I think we can all agree on that.

Then lets do so in the close blue states as well.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I'm thinking there will be a time to concede, but not now. There should be no doubt when he does concede. And you Republicans want that so there is no whining about a flawed election.

What flaws can you see that can overcome 120k+ votes?

The left has complained about Bush dividing our country, but it seems to me now like they are trying their best to do so.

There's more votes to count dude. Count the votes, then celebrate. There's no rush.

What you dont realize is that the "regular" votes left are in strong Republican districts. There is nothing to gain in "normal votes." I predict a 150,000 lead after the normals.

There arent even 150,000 provisional ballots... its O V E R.

 

[jm0ris0n]

No ! I will seriosly face Canada rather than 4 more years of Bush Tyrany !

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
What you dont realize is that the "regular" votes left are in strong Republican districts. There is nothing to gain in "normal votes." I predict a 150,000 lead after the normals.

There arent even 150,000 provisional ballots... its O V E R.

Many reports suggest there are 250,000+ provisional ballots. One of the remaining areas to be counted is Lucas, which leans heavily to Kerry.

 

[tbasset]

Good idea...your US dollars will go further in O'Canada...

 

[Genx87]

If Bush walks with 150K lead in Ohio. It will take a miracle for those provisional ballots to beat him.

Kerry doesnt have much of a leg to stand on with this. He even lose the popular vote by 3%.

Now if they want to try and win Ohio uing the court system then go ahead and try. I am sure the republicans will be happy to gain more seats in 06.

People will not be happy if the democrats try this crap for the 2nd time. Especially this time as they dont appear to be close.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Genx87
If Bush walks with 150K lead in Ohio. It will take a miracle for those provisional ballots to beat him.

Kerry doesnt have much of a leg to stand on with this. He even lose the popular vote by 3%.

Now if they want to try and win Ohio uing the court system then go ahead and try. I am sure the republicans will be happy to gain more seats in 06.

People will not be happy if the democrats try this crap for the 2nd time. Especially this time as they dont appear to be close.

Bush won't have a 150,00k lead. We'll see what it end up being.

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Aegeon, you have to consider that Kerry is already down 100,000 + votes...if he gets 175,000 of the provisional votes, that means BUSH gets the other 75,000...he would need 71% to win

Lets make this simple :

Bush 100,000
Kerry 0

250,000 Provisional votes

Bush 75,000
Kerry 175,000

Totals :

Bush 175,000
Kerry 175,000

For Kerry to pull even (that with Bush ahead by 100,000...which is actually a low estimate) he would have to get 70% of the provisional votes, and thats just NOT going to happen

 

[lordtyranus]

The sad part is that Kerry is going to continue to push in Ohio, forcing the Republicans to do the same in states like PA with a close margin.

 

[SuperTool]

As soon as it's impossible for him to win, he should concede.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
The sad part is that Kerry is going to continue to push in Ohio, forcing the Republicans to do the same in states like PA with a close margin.

Kerry's lead is over 160,000 in Pennsylvania. Unless they also have a huge provisional ballot number. It has clearly gone for Kerry.