Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!
That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.
Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.
Right. OH HEY. In that case, let's let an animal out of its cage while holding it over A MOLTEN VOLCANO. Hey, it's not our fault that the animal couldn't fly, right? We're not responsible for the animal's actions. :roll:
If you tell me he had no clue that a drugged skunk could possibly wander from the cage to the pool, I wouldn't believe it. What, was the pool in the backyard or something? Did the OP not realize that the pool was so close? Did the drugs slow the skunk down from lightspeed to only mach4 so it was impossible to catch as it ROCKETED out of the cage and into the pool? Of course not. You trap an animal. You drug it. You release said drugged animal. You watch it fall into the pool and it's in there long enough to drown.
Tell me that's not intentional. I won't believe you, but hey.
How is he going to stop a drugged skunk that may have rabies and still avoid getting sprayed?
Uh... go back and read the list of drugs he gave the skunk and the quantities. That skunk couldn't possibly have been moving very fast or very coherent to know what was going on. It's very likely that the skunk didn't even know he was in danger.
THIRDEDOriginally posted by: MisfitsFiend
SECONDEDIf we ever find out who called the cops(assuming that isnt shens) they should get a ban.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!
That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.
Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.
Right. OH HEY. In that case, let's let an animal out of its cage while holding it over A MOLTEN VOLCANO. Hey, it's not our fault that the animal couldn't fly, right? We're not responsible for the animal's actions. :roll:
If you tell me he had no clue that a drugged skunk could possibly wander from the cage to the pool, I wouldn't believe it. What, was the pool in the backyard or something? Did the OP not realize that the pool was so close? Did the drugs slow the skunk down from lightspeed to only mach4 so it was impossible to catch as it ROCKETED out of the cage and into the pool? Of course not. You trap an animal. You drug it. You release said drugged animal. You watch it fall into the pool and it's in there long enough to drown.
Tell me that's not intentional. I won't believe you, but hey.
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
His method was completely legal. What's your point?
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
THIRDEDOriginally posted by: MisfitsFiend
SECONDEDIf we ever find out who called the cops(assuming that isnt shens) they should get a ban.
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
His method was completely legal. What's your point?
How do you know? The fact is he did it for his enjoyment. If he was worried about getting sprayed he wouldn't have been out there feeding it. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn't have been playing with it and wouldn't have let it go.
Originally posted by: suse920
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: rbrandon
You need to sit back, take a breath, and read the post again. IT DID NOT DROWN he scooped it out of the pool and it walked off. Focus on the words IT DID NOT DROWN.
Exactly.
As some are fond of repeating, the OP is *not* a vet. So how would he know whether it's dead?
Again, selective reading does you in, either that or a total brainbusting lack of reading comprehension. He gave it the pills. IT WALKED OUT OF THE CAGE. He did not drag it/force it out of the cage. It walked into the pool. IT DID NOT DROWN. He scooped it out of the pool. IT WALKED AWAY ON ITS OWN. Am i missing something? Where does it say that he abused it? Did he stick an m80 up its ass? No. Did he beat it? No. It walked away to die in its sleep. No different from AC coming to give it a shot of phenobabarbitol in its arm, which would have made it DIE IN ITS SLEEP.
If it walked away, the drugs didn't kill it. They may have possibly worn off. How do you know it's dead?
HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA
Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
This is a skunk not a cute little bunny that means no harm. If he went around to harassed bunnies because he didnt like them on his property i think that would be crossing the line. He trapped a pest on his property. He correctly realized it was a danger because it could have sprayed or bitten. But this gy was HUMANE so he decided to just drug it and set it free. It may have not been a legal act, but it was humane. Whats the problem with this?
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
His method was completely legal. What's your point?
How do you know? The fact is he did it for his enjoyment. If he was worried about getting sprayed he wouldn't have been out there feeding it. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn't have been playing with it and wouldn't have let it go.
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
His method was completely legal. What's your point?
How do you know? The fact is he did it for his enjoyment. If he was worried about getting sprayed he wouldn't have been out there feeding it. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn't have been playing with it and wouldn't have let it go.
How is feeding a skunk sleeping pills not legal? He wasn't playing with it and again he could have let it go to see if it was sedated or not.
Originally posted by: MisfitsFiend
I killed a rat by my house by decapitating its head with a shovel. One swift whack, and the rat was out of its misery. HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE SKUNK? We grow big rats in Chicago - almost the size of the skunk. If it was bigger, and I needed to trap it, I would have done the same. Would you call AC on me? Any sane person would not.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Nik, it feels like you're just playing devil's advocate for the hell of it. Do you actually believe the words you are typing?
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
His method was completely legal. What's your point?
How do you know? The fact is he did it for his enjoyment. If he was worried about getting sprayed he wouldn't have been out there feeding it. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn't have been playing with it and wouldn't have let it go.
How is feeding a skunk sleeping pills not legal? He wasn't playing with it and again he could have let it go to see if it was sedated or not.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: suse920
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: rbrandon
You need to sit back, take a breath, and read the post again. IT DID NOT DROWN he scooped it out of the pool and it walked off. Focus on the words IT DID NOT DROWN.
Exactly.
As some are fond of repeating, the OP is *not* a vet. So how would he know whether it's dead?
Again, selective reading does you in, either that or a total brainbusting lack of reading comprehension. He gave it the pills. IT WALKED OUT OF THE CAGE. He did not drag it/force it out of the cage. It walked into the pool. IT DID NOT DROWN. He scooped it out of the pool. IT WALKED AWAY ON ITS OWN. Am i missing something? Where does it say that he abused it? Did he stick an m80 up its ass? No. Did he beat it? No. It walked away to die in its sleep. No different from AC coming to give it a shot of phenobabarbitol in its arm, which would have made it DIE IN ITS SLEEP.
If it walked away, the drugs didn't kill it. They may have possibly worn off. How do you know it's dead?
HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA
Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
This is a skunk not a cute little bunny that means no harm. If he went around to harassed bunnies because he didnt like them on his property i think that would be crossing the line. He trapped a pest on his property. He correctly realized it was a danger because it could have sprayed or bitten. But this gy was HUMANE so he decided to just drug it and set it free. It may have not been a legal act, but it was humane. Whats the problem with this?
A skunk is not a ferocious T-Rex either. Skunks aren't predatory. Their first defense (yes, defense. They are not offensive creatures) is their spray. Who the fvck is going to be dumb enough to go after the skunk again after being sprayed? Have you ever been near someone who's been sprayed the smell is almost debilitating. It's the most rancid thing I've ever smelled. If you're dumb enough to get sprayed and go back in closer for more, you deserve to be bitten.
If you're going to set it free, why drug it? And if you intended to drug it so that it wouldn't cause a problem while you had it caged, why set it free while still in your yard? Truth is, the OP didn't intend to set it free at all. He intended to kill it and it's very obvious. Fine, kill it. But don't play with it. Don't drug it, let it out, and watch it drown. Just fvcking get it over with.
Originally posted by: Nik
A skunk is not a ferocious T-Rex either. Skunks aren't predatory. Their first defense (yes, defense. They are not offensive creatures) is their spray. Who the fvck is going to be dumb enough to go after the skunk again after being sprayed? Have you ever been near someone who's been sprayed the smell is almost debilitating.
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Nik. You have proven how ignorant you are in this thread. The spray is offensive, you would know that if you knew anything about skunks.
Nobody wants to get sprayed, even if he had killed the shunk in cold blood as you argue, who the FVCK CARES?? I might have too if I was so inclined.
You sound like a combination between a bitter old man with nothing in his life, and a fanatical PETA activist all rolled into one. I can't believe you've posted this many times arguing over something that is so rediculous.
Originally posted by: labgeek
Originally posted by: Nik
A skunk is not a ferocious T-Rex either. Skunks aren't predatory. Their first defense (yes, defense. They are not offensive creatures) is their spray. Who the fvck is going to be dumb enough to go after the skunk again after being sprayed? Have you ever been near someone who's been sprayed the smell is almost debilitating.
Have you ever been near a rabid animal? Their actions don't always follow "normal patterns". And no you can't tell by looking. They'll be fine one minute and nuts the next. One of the weirder things I've ever seen was a squirrel go absolutely "ape sh!t" out of the blue in the quad with students around. It was sitting there one minute, ran up to someone getting out of a car, jumped in, bit them, then ran around terrorizing LOTS of people.
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HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA
Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Nik. You have proven how ignorant you are in this thread. The spray is offensive, you would know that if you knew anything about skunks.
:laugh: Look, like 5 or 6 posts above yours. :laugh:
Nobody wants to get sprayed, even if he had killed the shunk in cold blood as you argue, who the FVCK CARES?? I might have too if I was so inclined.
You sound like a combination between a bitter old man with nothing in his life, and a fanatical PETA activist all rolled into one. I can't believe you've posted this many times arguing over something that is so rediculous.
You've been here since September of 2004 and AT hasn't really had a good healthy debate since then that I can remember, so I don't expect you to understand how furvent I get about the things I believe. Quite frankly, though, I don't really give a fvck what you can and cannot believe.