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HBalzer

Golden Member
Jul 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: rbrandon

You need to sit back, take a breath, and read the post again. IT DID NOT DROWN he scooped it out of the pool and it walked off. Focus on the words IT DID NOT DROWN.

Exactly.

As some are fond of repeating, the OP is *not* a vet. So how would he know whether it's dead?

Again, selective reading does you in, either that or a total brainbusting lack of reading comprehension. He gave it the pills. IT WALKED OUT OF THE CAGE. He did not drag it/force it out of the cage. It walked into the pool. IT DID NOT DROWN. He scooped it out of the pool. IT WALKED AWAY ON ITS OWN. Am i missing something? Where does it say that he abused it? Did he stick an m80 up its ass? No. Did he beat it? No. It walked away to die in its sleep. No different from AC coming to give it a shot of phenobabarbitol in its arm, which would have made it DIE IN ITS SLEEP.

If it walked away, the drugs didn't kill it. They may have possibly worn off. How do you know it's dead?

HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA

Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.

Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!

That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.
 

novasatori

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

It seems you're making assumptions about the OPs motives.

You honestly wouldnt feel pissed if someone wasted yours and some law enforcement investigators time?


He posted the story on here, more than likely someone did the good "PICS" bit, he released it and figured oh well it drowned good as time as any to take a pic, then it was gone.

I think you're trying to read too much into his actions and you try so hard to believe he lifted the cage over the pool and just dumped the damn thing into it.
 

mwtgg

Lifer
Dec 6, 2001
10,491
0
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Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.

Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.
 

mwtgg

Lifer
Dec 6, 2001
10,491
0
0
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!

That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.

Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

EARTH TO NIK, COME IN NIK. You too are making assumptions about his motives.

I would be pissed because I did nothing wrong. The only difference is, I would not post about it here because of pantywaists like you.

NO SH|T. THAT'S WHY I POSTED THE WHOLE BOLDED PART!

Fer feckin pete's sake :roll:
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
11,552
1
0
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: rbrandon

You need to sit back, take a breath, and read the post again. IT DID NOT DROWN he scooped it out of the pool and it walked off. Focus on the words IT DID NOT DROWN.

Exactly.

As some are fond of repeating, the OP is *not* a vet. So how would he know whether it's dead?

Again, selective reading does you in, either that or a total brainbusting lack of reading comprehension. He gave it the pills. IT WALKED OUT OF THE CAGE. He did not drag it/force it out of the cage. It walked into the pool. IT DID NOT DROWN. He scooped it out of the pool. IT WALKED AWAY ON ITS OWN. Am i missing something? Where does it say that he abused it? Did he stick an m80 up its ass? No. Did he beat it? No. It walked away to die in its sleep. No different from AC coming to give it a shot of phenobabarbitol in its arm, which would have made it DIE IN ITS SLEEP.

If it walked away, the drugs didn't kill it. They may have possibly worn off. How do you know it's dead?

HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA

Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.

Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.

how exactly did he abuse the animal? He could have opened the cage to see if it was sedated or not.
 

suse920

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
6,889
0
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

Who would'nt get pissed about being reported? Especially for somthing so frivolous as this. and as for his motives the fact that he released the skunk at all shows that he wasnt trying to kill it. If his motives were to kill the skun he would have just done it while the skunk was contained.

 

mwtgg

Lifer
Dec 6, 2001
10,491
0
0
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

EARTH TO NIK, COME IN NIK. You too are making assumptions about his motives.

I would be pissed because I did nothing wrong. The only difference is, I would not post about it here because of pantywaists like you.

NO SH|T. THAT'S WHY I POSTED THE WHOLE BOLDED PART!

Fer feckin pete's sake :roll:

Then don't do the exact same thing and scold others for doing it.
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
11,552
1
0
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

EARTH TO NIK, COME IN NIK. You too are making assumptions about his motives.

I would be pissed because I did nothing wrong. The only difference is, I would not post about it here because of pantywaists like you.

NO SH|T. THAT'S WHY I POSTED THE WHOLE BOLDED PART!

Fer feckin pete's sake :roll:

Some people also have problems with reading comprehension just like you.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
13,981
3,328
146
If we ever find out who called the cops(assuming that isnt shens) they should get a ban.
 

MisfitsFiend

Platinum Member
Jun 19, 2001
2,287
1
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You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!
lol
 

HBalzer

Golden Member
Jul 17, 2005
1,259
1
0
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.

Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.

That is what i've been trying to get across to you all (I guess I had to use something that you can relate to), there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!

That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.

Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.

Right. OH HEY. In that case, let's let an animal out of its cage while holding it over A MOLTEN VOLCANO. Hey, it's not our fault that the animal couldn't fly, right? We're not responsible for the animal's actions. :roll:

If you tell me he had no clue that a drugged skunk could possibly wander from the cage to the pool, I wouldn't believe it. What, was the pool in the backyard or something? Did the OP not realize that the pool was so close? Did the drugs slow the skunk down from lightspeed to only mach4 so it was impossible to catch as it ROCKETED out of the cage and into the pool? Of course not. You trap an animal. You drug it. You release said drugged animal. You watch it fall into the pool and it's in there long enough to drown.

Tell me that's not intentional. I won't believe you, but hey.
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
11,552
1
0
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.

Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.

That is what i've been trying to get across to you all, there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take

His method was completely legal. What's your point?
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Nope, I have no problem with it.

While his methods were questionable his intent was fine. Sleeping pills are probably more humane than some of the other state encouraged methods of extermination (gassing them in their burrows).

The drowning was just sh!tty luck on behalf of the skunk, he picked the wrong direction to stagger.

Viper GTS

You're making assumptions about the OP's motives, as are those on the other side of the argument. If he was so innocent about it, he wouldn't have done things like post about it on AT, take pics and post those, get pissed about being reported, and edit his posts to cover his tracks.

EARTH TO NIK, COME IN NIK. You too are making assumptions about his motives.

I would be pissed because I did nothing wrong. The only difference is, I would not post about it here because of pantywaists like you.

NO SH|T. THAT'S WHY I POSTED THE WHOLE BOLDED PART!

Fer feckin pete's sake :roll:

Then don't do the exact same thing and scold others for doing it.

Where did I scold Viper GTS for doing so?
 

blckgrffn

Diamond Member
May 1, 2003
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LOL, this is so freaking stupid! You know what skunks are? Rodents? You know what you do/can do to rodents on your property? Kill them in pretty much anyway you see fit.

Rabid animals are the ones that approach human habitation. Odds are, having it by your home means it is indeed rabid. This is immaterial though to the main point.

Being a "country boy" myself, first I would have had to deal with the dog having been sprayed and have him potentially put down due to rabies infection. Second, I would have shot the skunk.

Now, if I had accidently trapped the skunk, I would have been in the same predicament as the OP. One, calling animal control is a huge waste of money when they are going to kill it anyway. Two, there has got to be something better than trying to shoot an animal in a cage. As ViperGTS pointed out, there are many *not* appropriate ways to deal with it. I think drugging was actually pretty damn effective. I would have used more and tried to put it out that way. But I would probably have gotten impatient and, if I had thought about it, opened the cage to let it come out so I could shoot it. Inhumane? Hardly? Hell, it is a skunk. IMHO, it could have stumbled out and he could have stomped on its head for all I care. Kicking it into the pool would have been a choice, but who wants a dead rodent in the pool? That is why I would have been fishing it out, not out of any concern for its safety. The more I think about it, the more I think that he she have killed it right there, but physically killing it somehow.

Regardless, this is much ado about nothing. It is sad so many people spent so much time debating that. Sadder, I read it all.
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
11,552
1
0
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!

That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.

Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.

Right. OH HEY. In that case, let's let an animal out of its cage while holding it over A MOLTEN VOLCANO. Hey, it's not our fault that the animal couldn't fly, right? We're not responsible for the animal's actions. :roll:

If you tell me he had no clue that a drugged skunk could possibly wander from the cage to the pool, I wouldn't believe it. What, was the pool in the backyard or something? Did the OP not realize that the pool was so close? Did the drugs slow the skunk down from lightspeed to only mach4 so it was impossible to catch as it ROCKETED out of the cage and into the pool? Of course not. You trap an animal. You drug it. You release said drugged animal. You watch it fall into the pool and it's in there long enough to drown.

Tell me that's not intentional. I won't believe you, but hey.

How is he going to stop a drugged skunk that may have rabies and still avoid getting sprayed?
 

mwtgg

Lifer
Dec 6, 2001
10,491
0
0
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: HBalzer
Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.

Bestiality isn't a legal method. Sorry.

That is what i've been trying to get across to you all (I guess I had to use something that you can relate to), there are methods that aren't legal. I asked for the law on that around pg 4 and someone gave me the definition of take

We drug animals all the time, but they aren't fluffy like skunks, are they?

Nik, his mistake was not giving the animal enough to kill it.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: mwtgg
You know what, I think I'm going to call the police on Nebor. He trapped a squirrel and it released it in a park. It ran into the street and got run over. HOW COULD HE LET THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY!

That's a different story with different circumstances and there's video to prove it.

Yeah, he didn't drug it. But my point is, once you let it go, you can't control its actions.

Right. OH HEY. In that case, let's let an animal out of its cage while holding it over A MOLTEN VOLCANO. Hey, it's not our fault that the animal couldn't fly, right? We're not responsible for the animal's actions. :roll:

If you tell me he had no clue that a drugged skunk could possibly wander from the cage to the pool, I wouldn't believe it. What, was the pool in the backyard or something? Did the OP not realize that the pool was so close? Did the drugs slow the skunk down from lightspeed to only mach4 so it was impossible to catch as it ROCKETED out of the cage and into the pool? Of course not. You trap an animal. You drug it. You release said drugged animal. You watch it fall into the pool and it's in there long enough to drown.

Tell me that's not intentional. I won't believe you, but hey.

How is he going to stop a drugged skunk that may have rabies and still avoid getting sprayed?

Uh... go back and read the list of drugs he gave the skunk and the quantities. That skunk couldn't possibly have been moving very fast or very coherent to know what was going on. It's very likely that the skunk didn't even know he was in danger.
 

suse920

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
6,889
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Originally posted by: HBalzer
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: rbrandon

You need to sit back, take a breath, and read the post again. IT DID NOT DROWN he scooped it out of the pool and it walked off. Focus on the words IT DID NOT DROWN.

Exactly.

As some are fond of repeating, the OP is *not* a vet. So how would he know whether it's dead?

Again, selective reading does you in, either that or a total brainbusting lack of reading comprehension. He gave it the pills. IT WALKED OUT OF THE CAGE. He did not drag it/force it out of the cage. It walked into the pool. IT DID NOT DROWN. He scooped it out of the pool. IT WALKED AWAY ON ITS OWN. Am i missing something? Where does it say that he abused it? Did he stick an m80 up its ass? No. Did he beat it? No. It walked away to die in its sleep. No different from AC coming to give it a shot of phenobabarbitol in its arm, which would have made it DIE IN ITS SLEEP.

If it walked away, the drugs didn't kill it. They may have possibly worn off. How do you know it's dead?

HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA

Lets go trapping animals, drugging them, releasing them, watching them disoriented and half-dead, then letting them go? Oh wait, that's being cruel and completely unnecessary.

Exactly, and like I said the line was crossed when he abused the skunk for his pleasure. If he felt it was a threat he wouldn?t have let it go. You all saying he can use any means necessary to get rid of the skunk is silly. Then some sick farmer would rape the goat every night and say he was harassing it to get it to leave.


This is a skunk not a cute little bunny that means no harm. If he went around to harassed bunnies because he didnt like them on his property i think that would be crossing the line. He trapped a pest on his property. He correctly realized it was a danger because it could have sprayed or bitten. But this gy was HUMANE so he decided to just drug it and set it free. It may have not been a legal act, but it was humane. Whats the problem with this?
 
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