Tom Cruise pwned by Paramount

[eits]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

whoa... you completely mistook my post. i'm saying that if you boycotted cruise's movie because he was a scientologist, you're more then likely a "christian"....

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Playmaker
Au contraire, it was a $150 million movie that grossed around $400 million worldwide, depending on the source. If they struggle to make money given those numbers, they have some major problems in overhead and marketing, and should go bankrupt.

In the US the gross was below expectations, and the sensationalism in today's journalism has done well to drive that point home (displaying Tom Cruise as the cause sells People and US Weekly to the ignorant masses, that's how it is). However, box office numbers were down across the board this past summer, and MI3 did remain on top for multiple weeks.

But by all means, twist the figures to attack Tom Cruise all you want.

Well, I was going by what was on Rottentomatoes.com, and didn't see what it brought in worldwide. As for how it did in the States, don't use the BS excuse that it was because the box office was down overall. That movie sank faster than any movie with a similar opening I've seen. The numbers dropped off VERY fast. I actually looked at the numbers closely and have compared them to other movies because I was so amazed that it didn't do better after seeing it.

That's simply incorrect. Referring to the overall box office numbers being down as "BS" shows your level of knowledge. They are down significantly. Therefore, treating MI3's numbers in absolute terms is foolish. They must be compared to other movies from 2006. Of the hundreds (if not thousands) of titles released this year, the following are the ONLY 8 movies to gross more in the US...

-Pirates 2 (sequel to a success)
-Cars (niche family movie)
-X-Men 3 (sequel to a success)
-Da Vinci Code (this one should be obvious)
-Ice Age 2 (sequel to a success and a niche family movie)
-Superman Returns (again, obvious)
-Over the Hedge (niche family movie)
-Click (family comedy)

Considering how poor MI2 was, MI3 had a solid performance at the box office. It's obviously going to have trouble competing with family movies and mega-blockbusters like Pirates 2 and X-Men 3.

Then again, given Cruise's personal issues, it's no surprise that Paramount jumps on him as a scapegoat for their irrational exuberance regarding the expected box office take, that's good business. To put it succinctly, MI3's US box office fell in line with its compeition in 2006, considering how poor MI2 was.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

Yeah, too bad Johann Teztel isn't still around. Christianity sure has a more respectable history than Scientology :disgust:

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

not to worry, pantywaist atheists won't let bothersome facts get in the way of their diatribes

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

not to worry, pantywaist atheists won't let bothersome facts get in the way of their diatribes

WTF is that? Some sort of a bible thumpin, NASCAR watchin, tobacco chewin epithet?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: Amol
with his status, i highly doubt other studios not going after him.

Exactly. Has he ever been in a true flop? Has he ever even been in a big budget movie that hasn't grossed 9 figures? Everything he touches turns to gold.

he's not crying thats for sure

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=tomcruise.htm
Lifetime Gross Total (27): $2,696,812,650
Average: $99,881,950
Opening Gross Average (22): $23,377,406 (Wide Releases Only)


as for scientology. lets take a look at its death count compared to other religions before getting uppity.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

not to worry, pantywaist atheists won't let bothersome facts get in the way of their diatribes

WTF is that? Some sort of a bible thumpin, NASCAR watchin, tobacco chewin epithet?

HAHA :thumbsup:

 

[Sc4freak]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

not to worry, pantywaist atheists won't let bothersome facts get in the way of their diatribes

WTF is that? Some sort of a bible thumpin, NASCAR watchin, tobacco chewin epithet?

HAHA :thumbsup:

Damn, that's a huge quote pyramid.

BTW, Scientology FTL :thumbsdown:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Sc4freak

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh yes, if I don't like scientology, I have to be a "moron" and a "so-called christian". Ignorance and stupidity are abound in this world.

Why can't I stand scientologists?


1. Because their psuedo-science rips on real science, claiming it's false
2. Because any "religion" based on a story of evil aliens and ghost possesions is stupid
3. Because people like Tom Cruise do not know the difference between psychology and psychiatry, yet claim to
4. Because people like T.C. use psychology to brainwash people into giving tens of thousands of dollars to raise through the levels of a so-called self-help religion yet rip on psychiatry or psychology, claiming it does no good (or did no good, since every field of science went through growing pains, especially psychology or psychiatry)
5. Because they brainwash those same people to hate others because they aren't "enlightened" and aren't free of evil spirits

Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons. Not to mention the "them or us" attitude, the arrogance, and the blind hatered and stupidity. Go take your self-righteous pigeonholing butt back where it came from sparky, because you have no idea.

I can't stand T.C. or Scientology not because it is opposed to any religious beliefs I have, but because it opposes any logical or practical beliefs I have.

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

There are no levels in Christianity, nor can you 'buy' your way into Christianity with buckets of money.

not to worry, pantywaist atheists won't let bothersome facts get in the way of their diatribes

WTF is that? Some sort of a bible thumpin, NASCAR watchin, tobacco chewin epithet?

HAHA :thumbsup:

Damn, that's a huge quote pyramid.

BTW, Scientology FTL :thumbsdown:

that's nothing.

 

[Red Dawn]

LOL Christians calling Scientologists weird:laugh:

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: Amol
with his status, i highly doubt other studios not going after him.

Exactly. Has he ever been in a true flop? Has he ever even been in a big budget movie that hasn't grossed 9 figures? Everything he touches turns to gold.

lol I think u have a point. there are still many people who don't care about actor status just the movie you know?

 

[RallyMaster]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
That is GREAT! Fvck Tom Cruise!

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL Christians calling Scientologists weird:laugh:

I somewhat agree. However, Christians, at least in modern times, do not really attack psychology or psychiatry. Nor do they publicly bash women who had post-partum depression. While they do still take a holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the time, it doesn't seem to be as bad.

Besides, I have an easier time believing in God than I do some evil alien and spirits possessing me.

 

[lokiju]

I really never liked him anyways, I've always thought he was such an over actor, just look at him in The Last Samurai, he over acted through out that whole movie start to finish IMO and that was well before all this media attention whoring he's been doing.

I've always said though that a lot of his movies are good despite him being in it, not because he is in it.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion

Originally posted by: jpeyton
As far as star power is concerned, just look at the worldwide gross for War Of The Worlds. Tom and Steven took that one straight to the bank.

I was thinking about the same thing....

Tom Cruise and business partner Paula Wagner may not have been able to renew their contract of $17 Million/year with Paramount (Paramount wanting a $2M/year new deal)
but Tom hauled in $87M just for Warof the Worlds from Paramount (a record for a single movie actor).

He got 87 mil for that hunk of dog poopy? Worst remake of a classic tale ever. Spielberg totally succeeded in making each of the main characters annoying to the point that you wanted them to be disintegrated by an alien death ray.

i agree...i don't recall another movie where i cared so little what happened to the characters...and the plot was just stupid and poorly done. It just kept building up, the aliens are kicking but, still kicking butt, then with 5 minutes left, humans win.

 

[40Hands]

Wow! My freekin' boycott of his movies actually worked!

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: Amol
with his status, i highly doubt other studios not going after him.

Exactly. Has he ever been in a true flop? Has he ever even been in a big budget movie that hasn't grossed 9 figures? Everything he touches turns to gold.

he's not crying thats for sure

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=tomcruise.htm
Lifetime Gross Total (27): $2,696,812,650
Average: $99,881,950
Opening Gross Average (22): $23,377,406 (Wide Releases Only)


as for scientology. lets take a look at its death count compared to other religions before getting uppity.

Nice, that's what I was looking for. I thought I remembered reading that he has starred in some insanely high percentage of movies grossing in the 9 figures, and it looks like his average definitely backs that up.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL Christians calling Scientologists weird:laugh:

I somewhat agree. However, Christians, at least in modern times, do not really attack psychology or psychiatry. Nor do they publicly bash women who had post-partum depression. While they do still take a holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the time, it doesn't seem to be as bad.

Besides, I have an easier time believing in God than I do some evil alien and spirits possessing me.

I don't generally argue religion, but keep in mind the plethora of accepted scientific facts that the church has and still does disagree with. It's significantly more astounding than psychiatry, which even many non-scientologists believe is quack science (not my view).

In my opinion, the most important distinction hurting scientology compared to christianity is that most scientologists choose it, whereas most christians are, in effect, "born" that way. It's very difficult to challenge what has been brain-washed into you since birth.

 

[Kristi2k]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Personally, I refuse to give another buck to Scientology, I have boycotted any major scientologist film.

and that's exactly why tom cruise got canned, in my opinion.

i think it's because paramount doesn't want to be associated with scientology and, therefore, boycotted by a bunch of morons (aka so-called christians).

Ahh... Christianity and Scientology are not the same thing.

 

[Kristi2k]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

Indeed, which is why I said...

"Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons."


I am Christian, in that I believe in God, but everything else is BS.

What puts me off about T.C. is his supposed knowledge about psychology and psychiatry and his FUDD that he loves to spread. His "religion" is based off of psychology and the creation of group-think, not to mention a massive pyramid scheme. It's a sham and I refuse to support the brainwashing of people.

Not to start anything but you can't call yourself a Christian unless you believe that Christ is God in the flesh and that only through Him can you be saved.

Hence the word CHRISTian, of Christ.

 

[SoftwareDude]

What were some of his off screen actions that they didnt like? I havent heard of anything that he did that i can think off

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL Christians calling Scientologists weird:laugh:

I somewhat agree. However, Christians, at least in modern times, do not really attack psychology or psychiatry. Nor do they publicly bash women who had post-partum depression. While they do still take a holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the time, it doesn't seem to be as bad.

Besides, I have an easier time believing in God than I do some evil alien and spirits possessing me.

I don't generally argue religion, but keep in mind the plethora of accepted scientific facts that the church has and still does disagree with. It's significantly more astounding than psychiatry, which even many non-scientologists believe is quack science (not my view).

In my opinion, the most important distinction hurting scientology compared to christianity is that most scientologists choose it, whereas most christians are, in effect, "born" that way. It's very difficult to challenge what has been brain-washed into you since birth.

As a practicing Christian, I find the biggest difference is that I've never met a Christian who's ever expressed a desire to eat placenta

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Kristi2k

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Were you just describing Christianity or Scientology? I can't tell. They are so similar.

Indeed, which is why I said...

"Now, ask me why I hate most organized religions? Same fekkin reasons."


I am Christian, in that I believe in God, but everything else is BS.

What puts me off about T.C. is his supposed knowledge about psychology and psychiatry and his FUDD that he loves to spread. His "religion" is based off of psychology and the creation of group-think, not to mention a massive pyramid scheme. It's a sham and I refuse to support the brainwashing of people.

Not to start anything but you can't call yourself a Christian unless you believe that Christ is God in the flesh and that only through Him can you be saved.

Hence the word CHRISTian, of Christ.

ah, but can you still be saved just by following his teachings, rather than just simply believing in CHrist himself? Thereby, many other people around the world who have never believed in Christ, but practice his teachings can also be saved.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am not in any way defending Tom Cruise's behavior, but this is sheer spin control by Paramount. It sounds to me like he wanted to break off on his own anyway, and they felt compelled to stab him in the back on his way out the door. It's really classless considering the billions of dollars he's made for Paramount - he has been one the biggest movie stars in history, and even his mediocre movies have made them hundreds of millions.