Tom Cruise pwned by Paramount

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Well, we do know that he did donate 3.6M after MI:III came out, so that's at least 4%, so that's .32 that I don't need to donate to Scientology, which is just fine by me. If you want to perpetuate the organization, that's your deal, not mine.

Yes, and you do continue it by accepting him and his stupid FUDD. The more people speak with their wallets, the more this stuff happens to him.

I tie the person and the work into the same thing. Many people think that Woody Allen is a good director, but I never watch his movies. Others think that Barry Bonds is an awesome baseball player, but I will never go to one of his games.

The mere fact you are attacking my own beliefs only highlights your acceptance of the same behavior, which leads me to believe, why did you even bother to reply to me? If you had such a problem with me as I do with T.C., then shouldn't you just move along and not bother to reply?

Ohhh, but wait, you don't like the supposed FUDD I spread? But should it really matter on a free forum, why not just forget about it? In essence, you are no different than I.

Would you boycott a Christian actor because of all the crap they spew? "Jesus is the way to salvation. If you don't believe, you won't go to heaven (basically, if you don't believe you'll be damned)." I'm sure if Tom Cruise donated $4 million to the church (whatever Christian church) you'd say, "man, that Tom Cruise sure is an awesome guy! He dontad $4 million to the church."

Ohh, of course, because I am such a staunch Christian. Geez, would you people get off of the "My religion vs his religion". This has nothing to do with my belief in a God and his utter stupidity regarding anything in life.

I guess reading comprehension isn't valued much with some people. And yes, I often do boycott films from other complete morons, including Mel Gibson.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Well, we do know that he did donate 3.6M after MI:III came out, so that's at least 4%, so that's .32 that I don't need to donate to Scientology, which is just fine by me. If you want to perpetuate the organization, that's your deal, not mine.

Yes, and you do continue it by accepting him and his stupid FUDD. The more people speak with their wallets, the more this stuff happens to him.

I tie the person and the work into the same thing. Many people think that Woody Allen is a good director, but I never watch his movies. Others think that Barry Bonds is an awesome baseball player, but I will never go to one of his games.

The mere fact you are attacking my own beliefs only highlights your acceptance of the same behavior, which leads me to believe, why did you even bother to reply to me? If you had such a problem with me as I do with T.C., then shouldn't you just move along and not bother to reply?

Ohhh, but wait, you don't like the supposed FUDD I spread? But should it really matter on a free forum, why not just forget about it? In essence, you are no different than I.

Would you boycott a Christian actor because of all the crap they spew? "Jesus is the way to salvation. If you don't believe, you won't go to heaven (basically, if you don't believe you'll be damned)." I'm sure if Tom Cruise donated $4 million to the church (whatever Christian church) you'd say, "man, that Tom Cruise sure is an awesome guy! He dontad $4 million to the church."

Ohh, of course, because I am such a staunch Christian. Geez, would you people get off of the "My religion vs his religion". This has nothing to do with my belief in a God and his utter stupidity regarding anything in life.

I guess reading comprehension isn't valued much with some people. And yes, I often do boycott films from other complete morons, including Mel Gibson.

My question isn't really about "your religion vs his," it's more about, why are you so pissed off about what he believes? Because like I said, I highly doubt you'd have a problem if someone said, "Jesus is the light in my life. Everything I do is for Jesus." And found out they donated $4 million to their church.

Mel Gibson is a different story all together, so I really wouldn't bring him into this discussion. I doubt you had a problem with him before the police incident.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Well, we do know that he did donate 3.6M after MI:III came out, so that's at least 4%, so that's .32 that I don't need to donate to Scientology, which is just fine by me. If you want to perpetuate the organization, that's your deal, not mine.

Yes, and you do continue it by accepting him and his stupid FUDD. The more people speak with their wallets, the more this stuff happens to him.

I tie the person and the work into the same thing. Many people think that Woody Allen is a good director, but I never watch his movies. Others think that Barry Bonds is an awesome baseball player, but I will never go to one of his games.

The mere fact you are attacking my own beliefs only highlights your acceptance of the same behavior, which leads me to believe, why did you even bother to reply to me? If you had such a problem with me as I do with T.C., then shouldn't you just move along and not bother to reply?

Ohhh, but wait, you don't like the supposed FUDD I spread? But should it really matter on a free forum, why not just forget about it? In essence, you are no different than I.

I just think your rationale for refusing to pay for a movie with him in it is flawed and childish, that's all. I bet you won't even watch his movies when their on cable, don't you see how stupid it is to neglect a peice of work just because someone involved in it is evil to you, or you happen to disagree with how he carries himself? You can keep spewing this psycho-babble rhetoric at me but I still feel it doesn't justify your motives.

Also, YOU replied to my post and initally attacked my thoughts then ask mockingly why I would even bother replying to you? Think again, but after this post I doubt I'll care what you reply with.

 

[Descartes]

I think it's rather sad that one of the more prominent actors of our time is being vilified so publicly and for such silly reasons. Meanwhile, we usher no-talents to the top of pop culture that project an image worse than Cruise's and probably practice worse in private. It only goes to show just how capricious the public can be, following trend rather than any actual opinion.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Playmaker

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL Christians calling Scientologists weird:laugh:

I somewhat agree. However, Christians, at least in modern times, do not really attack psychology or psychiatry. Nor do they publicly bash women who had post-partum depression. While they do still take a holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the time, it doesn't seem to be as bad.

Besides, I have an easier time believing in God than I do some evil alien and spirits possessing me.

I don't generally argue religion, but keep in mind the plethora of accepted scientific facts that the church has and still does disagree with. It's significantly more astounding than psychiatry, which even many non-scientologists believe is quack science (not my view).

In my opinion, the most important distinction hurting scientology compared to christianity is that most scientologists choose it, whereas most christians are, in effect, "born" that way. It's very difficult to challenge what has been brain-washed into you since birth.

As a practicing Christian, I find the biggest difference is that I've never met a Christian who's ever expressed a desire to eat placenta

Wow, I hope you're joking. If you missed the facetiousness of his remark you're either extremely dense or a sheep to the National Enquirer.

Oh, and google serial killers and you'll find dozens of examples of devout Christians that would probably eat more than just the placenta. Fvcking Christian cannibals. Extrapolating anecdotes (in your case incorrectly) to describe a group sure can be a b!tch.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
I just think your rationale for refusing to pay for a movie with him in it is flawed and childish, that's all. I bet you won't even watch his movies when their on cable, don't you see how stupid it is to neglect a peice of work just because someone involved in it is evil to you, or you happen to disagree with how he carries himself? You can keep spewing this psycho-babble rhetoric at me but I still feel it doesn't justify your motives.

Also, YOU replied to my post and initally attacked my thoughts then ask mockingly why I would even bother replying to you? Think again, but after this post I doubt I'll care what you reply with.

Well good for you. I don't watch his stuff anywhere. If I don't like his work, I don't like his work because I don't like him, simple as that. As far as it being childish, I don't see it that way. Why would I want to support something I don't believe in?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
My question isn't really about "your religion vs his," it's more about, why are you so pissed off about what he believes? Because like I said, I highly doubt you'd have a problem if someone said, "Jesus is the light in my life. Everything I do is for Jesus." And found out they donated $4 million to their church.

Mel Gibson is a different story all together, so I really wouldn't bring him into this discussion. I doubt you had a problem with him before the police incident.

1. I don't have a problem with devout Christians until they start bashing psychology or hard science based upon stupid pretenses, then I have a problem. Cruise tries to discredit psychology and psychiatry (albeit pathetically) and spreads FUDD while trying to brainwash people, not to mention using a woman who suffered severe PPD to try and further his cause. Pathetic, no matter if you are cruise or anybody else.

2. I didn't know Gibson was such a prick before this latest incident, nor do I support his work now. IF he came out and said "whoops" and cleaned up his act, I might consider seeing his movies again at some point. I can't foresee everything.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton
My question isn't really about "your religion vs his," it's more about, why are you so pissed off about what he believes? Because like I said, I highly doubt you'd have a problem if someone said, "Jesus is the light in my life. Everything I do is for Jesus." And found out they donated $4 million to their church.

Mel Gibson is a different story all together, so I really wouldn't bring him into this discussion. I doubt you had a problem with him before the police incident.

1. I don't have a problem with devout Christians until they start bashing psychology or hard science based upon stupid pretenses, then I have a problem. Cruise tries to discredit psychology and psychiatry (albeit pathetically) and spreads FUDD while trying to brainwash people, not to mention using a woman who suffered severe PPD to try and further his cause. Pathetic, no matter if you are cruise or anybody else.

2. I didn't know Gibson was such a prick before this latest incident, nor do I support his work now. IF he came out and said "whoops" and cleaned up his act, I might consider seeing his movies again at some point. I can't foresee everything.

IMO, you just need to lighten up. It's entertainment for god's sake! How do you keep track of all the people that violate your sense of moral propriety? It's not like you're supporting their candidacy for president or something.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton
My question isn't really about "your religion vs his," it's more about, why are you so pissed off about what he believes? Because like I said, I highly doubt you'd have a problem if someone said, "Jesus is the light in my life. Everything I do is for Jesus." And found out they donated $4 million to their church.

Mel Gibson is a different story all together, so I really wouldn't bring him into this discussion. I doubt you had a problem with him before the police incident.

1. I don't have a problem with devout Christians until they start bashing psychology or hard science based upon stupid pretenses, then I have a problem. Cruise tries to discredit psychology and psychiatry (albeit pathetically) and spreads FUDD while trying to brainwash people, not to mention using a woman who suffered severe PPD to try and further his cause. Pathetic, no matter if you are cruise or anybody else.

2. I didn't know Gibson was such a prick before this latest incident, nor do I support his work now. IF he came out and said "whoops" and cleaned up his act, I might consider seeing his movies again at some point. I can't foresee everything.

IMO, you just need to lighten up. It's entertainment for god's sake! How do you keep track of all the people that violate your sense of moral propriety? It's not like you're supporting their candidacy for president or something.

Meh, some people would go see a Charlie Manson film if he put one out. Others would probably go see a Hitler film. Sometimes some people have to draw the line in what they support, I drew my line for T.C.'s stupid comments about fields far better and much more helpful to society than acting. If me not going to see one of his movies results in $.30 less being donated to scientology, I am happy with that.

 

[thegimp03]

It's about time. He's been cracking out for awhile now.

 

[ailetlvo]

Tom Cruise is 5'7".

:laugh:

 

[BooGiMaN]

this is goin to be interesting...there are alot of actors and actresses that are scientologists...wonder if they will boycott paramount...or retaliate in soem way due to this

 

[LouPoir]

Originally posted by: LookingGlass
Hah, kick ass, he's an idiot, and his behavior is catching up to him, bout time.

I agree

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: JackBurton
My question isn't really about "your religion vs his," it's more about, why are you so pissed off about what he believes? Because like I said, I highly doubt you'd have a problem if someone said, "Jesus is the light in my life. Everything I do is for Jesus." And found out they donated $4 million to their church.

Mel Gibson is a different story all together, so I really wouldn't bring him into this discussion. I doubt you had a problem with him before the police incident.

1. I don't have a problem with devout Christians until they start bashing psychology or hard science based upon stupid pretenses, then I have a problem. Cruise tries to discredit psychology and psychiatry (albeit pathetically) and spreads FUDD while trying to brainwash people, not to mention using a woman who suffered severe PPD to try and further his cause. Pathetic, no matter if you are cruise or anybody else.

2. I didn't know Gibson was such a prick before this latest incident, nor do I support his work now. IF he came out and said "whoops" and cleaned up his act, I might consider seeing his movies again at some point. I can't foresee everything.

1. Like I said, I doubt you'd boycott a Christian actor if he told Brooke Shields that she doesn't need medication, and that Jesus would take care of her. Now you may not agree with the actor, but I doubt you'd boycott him.

2. And again, Mel Gibson is a totally different story. He made anti-semitic remarks. That's something totally different than what we're talking about here.

Now you can boycott whoever you'd like, that's your prerogative. You can boycott whoever has brown hair if you'd like. But your reasons for boycotting Tom Cruise just seems hypocritical.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

1. Like I said, I doubt you'd boycott a Christian actor if he told Brooke Shields that she doesn't need medication, and that Jesus would take care of her. Now you may not agree with the actor, but I doubt you'd boycott him.

2. And again, Mel Gibson is a totally different story. He made anti-semitic remarks. That's something totally different than what we're talking about here.

Now you can boycott whoever you'd like, that's your prerogative. You can boycott whoever has brown hair if you'd like. But your reasons for boycotting Tom Cruise just seems hypocritical.

1. I love how you make assumptions based upon what you assume my religious slant is. Frankly, I'd boycott any moron who said the same stuff he has. I have made it pretty fekkin clear that my opinion has nothing to do with religion, but practical implications and relaties. However, somebody like you, who would rather just argue online, fail to acknoweldge that, while just making assumptions.

2. Mel Gibson, in my mind, is no different.

3. How is it hypocritical? In order for it to be hypocritical I'd have to

A. Watch somebody's movies that I don't personally agree with *AND* I feel are a detriment to society.

B. Actually be a detriment to society *AND* say that it isn't right for people to boycott me.

Now, you can make another assumption that both of those are true. However, it is merely that. I love how you can project and assume anything you want about my boycott, despite all evidence to the contrary. I won't post to this thread any longer, as all it has done is degrade into a dude making *ASS*umptions about everything and ignoring all truth.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Doesn't really matter for Cruise. Moviegoers can separate the wacko off-screen from the talent on-screen. Collateral is one of my favorite movies of all time.

As far as star power is concerned, just look at the worldwide gross for War Of The Worlds. Tom and Steven took that one straight to the bank.

No... no they can't. Did you MI3? That movie fvcking ruled. How did it do in the theatres? Fvcking awful. There's no way that movie deserved to do that poorly. It did poorly because of him, period.

it made over 135 million in USA alone i don't get where did it fail to make up the cash :?

 

[topslop1]

Yay