yes yes. We are aware that the new republican solution is the nuke from orbit strategy. By going down this road the republicans can say they offered a solution but lets think for a moment about the RISKS involved. Are you 100% sure that we wont cause more problems then we fix?
NO solution, NO action or inaction is without consequences. I hope people with maximum expertise on this make the proper choice of anticipated effects versus resultant trade offs.I am not advocating anything here, especially without an understanding of the particular sediment/rock layering of the drill site. I am just conjecturing about the feasibility of capping the oil flow at the cost of whatever collateral effects will occur, ie fish kill, shore damage from resultant waves, destabilization of local fault lines, etc. Radiation does not seem to be a worry based on the prior deep water testing.
If the capping efforts don't work, it would be reasonable to consider alternatives that can be more expeditiously applied than watching three or four months of oil gushing out, but always keeping in mind that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
In other words, you don't have a fucking clue either.
Jlabber...
You need to put the nukes dowm.
-John
It may come down in a week that we either accept a massively polluted Gulf or the detonation of a small nuke (and it likely CAN be a pocket nuke, maybe an adaptation of one of the old MADMs) in an attempt to seal the leak.
Perhaps we should use a sNuke and have Sec. Clinton deliver it.
Like me, a guy who gets all the information he needs direct from South Park!
Nah...I just use South Park to augment my already vast oil field knowledge
<----actually works in the oil field.
At what depth?
Again strapped for time it's hard to get something sooner than later.
Then the differences between that well and this one. With such a dramatic one shot approach it has to be right like the window when re-entering the Earth's atmosphere during the Apollo days.
If the superheated rock does not cool fast enough and blows open even wider it would be worse as well. Sounds risky.
As happened in 1979 this will probably continue until relief wells are drilled and it can be shut off safely.
IIRC, the Soviet natural gas wells sealed by nuclear device were all on dry land, not 5000' underwater. Also I read (can't find the source immediately to link) that the Russians say their nuclear device technique has about a 20% chance of working on the Gulf leak. Not really convincing odds, especially considering how much worse things could get if everything doesn't go exactly right...Firstly, it is not a Republican strategy, it is a Russian strategy based on the four times they used it to plug their own massive natural gas leaks. See my post #71 in this very same thread before panicking. It seems to have worked three out of four times and it possibly could have worked the fourth if the Russians had better data on the location of the leak...
In other words, you don't have a fucking clue either.
God damn these BP arraogant son of a bitches are evil
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/bps_ceo_disputes_claims_of_und.html
Impound their assets and charge them with criminal negligence!
And Vitter (Diaper Dave) wants them to keep drilling . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/30/pol.vitter.drilling.sotu/index.html?hpt=T1
I thought oil floated, couldnt we just kind of "skim" the oil right off the top and process it? That way we get rid of the oil in the water and able to use it?
I thought oil floated, couldnt we just kind of "skim" the oil right off the top and process it? That way we get rid of the oil in the water and able to use it?
:thumbsup:With a surface spill it's much easier but when it's released nearly a mile down and gets carried by currents and exposed to different temperatures things change dramatically making "simple" recovery and control methods difficult at best.
Small problem with that though... I'm wagering the ocean floor is not a particulary stable surface. It's likely more like mud/clay for a significant depth. Start loading a lot of weight on that pipe sticking up and it's just going to sink/bend/buckle under the load - leading to unpredictable results.
This is why I posited a cone. First off all the cone point will allow oil stream to slightly and equilaterally deflect around it while lowering it in hole and not blown off point. Once the tip of the cone pierces hole there is no way for it to be kicked out and you keep lowering. Cone has a very slight slope less than 2 degrees filling holes cavities wall to wall once it is fully lowered. I think it could work. I cap champagne bottles all the time in this fashion. (although according to my sister it's best to put a spoon in the bottle as it preserves carbonation)
LOL, at folks telling BP what to do.
-John
I don't know if it's the new angle, but it seems as if the oil flow has slowed. Still coming out at a good rate but no where near what it used to be, possibly they are showing the feeds from one of the other pipes?
Wouldn't an implosion bomb work? Not at plugging the oil leak but keeping the amount of oil in the ocean at bay?
Secondly, it is not a "nuke from orbit," which I guess you bizarrely extrapolated into the real world from playing that CODMW2 single mode campaign too many times in a row.