Trayvon Martin all over again.

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HomerJS

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Amazing how all this has come back to bite these people in their racist asses......
FTFY

So are there any still out there that think this entire case doesn't reek of racism?? The same DA ARRESTED A BLACK WOMAN on bullshit voter fraud charges. Meanwhile the same guy refuses to arrest a couple of knuckledragging crackers when they lynch a black man??

REALLY??
 

HumblePie

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So, usually have better things to do over the weekend than hang out in this forum, but winding down for bed and thought I'd post an update as I was on occasion gathering some additional info on this subject. Things that have been released I found out, which I am not sure have been shared here as I haven't had time to go back through this thread yet, is the following:

There was only been 1 reported robbery in the area which was a gun from the McMichael's vehicle overnight that they forgot to lock and it was in plain sight.
There was a neighbor that took a video of a black guy poking around one of the houses being constructed weeks prior one night, although no real crimes were caught, and that was viewed by the McMichaels. Although I doubt the video was good enough quality to identify any positively. If that video gets released to the public we'll see it. I am sure it is evidence though as it has been mentioned in reports.

That's it. So with that in mind, and what I already know, it is looking more to me like the McMichaels racially profiled Arbery on purpose. I don't think they sought out to kill him, but definitely scare him. It back fired. So yep, I am going to say I believe there was a bit of racial motivation now in their reasoning to chase him down. I already said they should be going to prison for this with at least negligent homicide or manslaughter. The video shows they weren't trying to kill him in cold-blood, because if they were they could have shot at any time while chasing him down to do that. I think the father was just trying to a degree relive his old cop days and racially profiled Arbery because he thought he could give the guy a scare and get away with it. The blantant manipulation of the "evidence" the McMichaels were using to justify their actions shows that the racial bias in their decision making. What a couple of dumbasses.
 

Meghan54

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So, usually have better things to do over the weekend than hang out in this forum, but winding down for bed and thought I'd post an update as I was on occasion gathering some additional info on this subject. Things that have been released I found out, which I am not sure have been shared here as I haven't had time to go back through this thread yet, is the following:

There was only been 1 reported robbery in the area which was a gun from the McMichael's vehicle overnight that they forgot to lock and it was in plain sight.
There was a neighbor that took a video of a black guy poking around one of the houses being constructed weeks prior one night, although no real crimes were caught, and that was viewed by the McMichaels. Although I doubt the video was good enough quality to identify any positively. If that video gets released to the public we'll see it. I am sure it is evidence though as it has been mentioned in reports.

That's it. So with that in mind, and what I already know, it is looking more to me like the McMichaels racially profiled Arbery on purpose. I don't think they sought out to kill him, but definitely scare him. It back fired. So yep, I am going to say I believe there was a bit of racial motivation now in their reasoning to chase him down. I already said they should be going to prison for this with at least negligent homicide or manslaughter. The video shows they weren't trying to kill him in cold-blood, because if they were they could have shot at any time while chasing him down to do that. I think the father was just trying to a degree relive his old cop days and racially profiled Arbery because he thought he could give the guy a scare and get away with it. The blantant manipulation of the "evidence" the McMichaels were using to justify their actions shows that the racial bias in their decision making. What a couple of dumbasses.

Welcome to the South, where, even in 2020, blacks are "OK" only when they "remember their place" and aren't "uppity."
 
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HomerJS

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So, usually have better things to do over the weekend than hang out in this forum, but winding down for bed and thought I'd post an update as I was on occasion gathering some additional info on this subject. Things that have been released I found out, which I am not sure have been shared here as I haven't had time to go back through this thread yet, is the following:

There was only been 1 reported robbery in the area which was a gun from the McMichael's vehicle overnight that they forgot to lock and it was in plain sight.
There was a neighbor that took a video of a black guy poking around one of the houses being constructed weeks prior one night, although no real crimes were caught, and that was viewed by the McMichaels. Although I doubt the video was good enough quality to identify any positively. If that video gets released to the public we'll see it. I am sure it is evidence though as it has been mentioned in reports.

That's it. So with that in mind, and what I already know, it is looking more to me like the McMichaels racially profiled Arbery on purpose. I don't think they sought out to kill him, but definitely scare him. It back fired. So yep, I am going to say I believe there was a bit of racial motivation now in their reasoning to chase him down. I already said they should be going to prison for this with at least negligent homicide or manslaughter. The video shows they weren't trying to kill him in cold-blood, because if they were they could have shot at any time while chasing him down to do that. I think the father was just trying to a degree relive his old cop days and racially profiled Arbery because he thought he could give the guy a scare and get away with it. The blantant manipulation of the "evidence" the McMichaels were using to justify their actions shows that the racial bias in their decision making. What a couple of dumbasses.
You are omitting the racism by local law enforcement. Unless they find some elderly black woman to arrest on bogus voter fraud charges they let white people go free who commit murder.

P.S. I change my opinion to the entire state of Georgia. I'm convinced absent that recording making it to the media the state wouldn't have stepped in.

When did the locals get a recording of the murder? Back in Feb or recently?

Update: The recording was turned over to police immediately which pretty much cements the racism charge by local law enforcement

  • An attorney for William "Roddie" Bryan, who recorded the 25-year-old's death, said Bryan has cooperated with authorities in their investigation as authorities say they're looking into "everybody involved."
  • Bryan shared the video with authorities immediately after the shooting, Bryan's lawyer said, adding that he had no connection to the suspects arrested in Arbery's death other than being their neighbor.

 
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pauldun170

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You are omitting the racism by local law enforcement. Unless they find some elderly black woman to arrest on bogus voter fraud charges they let white people go free who commit murder.

P.S. I change my opinion to the entire state of Georgia. I'm convinced absent that recording making it to the media the state wouldn't have stepped in.

When did the locals get a recording of the murder? Back in Feb or recently?

Update: The recording was turned over to police immediately which pretty much cements the racism charge by local law enforcement



In all fairness if what the commissioners say was true, cops on the scene saw the video and were ready to arrest.
DA's cocked blocked them.
 

ch33zw1z

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Again just wow. Way to slander a whole region of the US because of two pricks. Just grow up.

You're right, since a black dude was elected POTUS, the racial attacks have spread farther across the country. Thanks for pointing that out. Btw, whens the next unite the right rally?
 

HomerJS

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In all fairness if what the commissioners say was true, cops on the scene saw the video and were ready to arrest.
DA's cocked blocked them.
By local law enforcement I include prosecutors. Wonder if that DA will be charged with culpable negligence?
 

HumblePie

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This is beyond ridiculous. You lecturing an African American on how to view racism. I am guessing you never even read or participated in his "Existing while being Black thread"
Not only that, you're a "white guy" that's lecturing the African American on how to view racism. Pretty much beyond the pale.

More ridiculousness, is you trying to insert yourself in Ahmaud Arbery's position as a black jogger in Geogia and tell us, HomerJS how "you", a white guy would react in the situation.

And lets throw out these much used racist tropes.
"Also, I want to throw this out there, my wife and kids aren't white either. My neighbors and some of my best friends aren't white as well."
"I find that people that want to shout racism at the very outset are racist themselves. "

And this fucking finale.
"I know more about racism then most of my black friends that really haven't experienced it first hand."

No you fucking don't. A white man in America with white privilege cannot, ever, know more about racism than an African American.
I find it hard to believe there are any, African Americans who have not experienced racism. That's just something you pulled out of your ass.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Are you a racist? Probably. Because no self-respecting white person in American would dare say this bullshit to Americans, much less an African American.

Maybe its time you took that same break to told us you took earlier.

Wow you are looking through everything through the lens of racism here. I wasn't lecturing anyone on anything. Racism isn't a black thing only despite what you may think. You realize that white people are the minority on the planet, and outside a few areas of the world are not exactly viewed friendly. Get off your high horse if you think white people can't be targetted by racist actions. I certainly have. I've been beaten, thrown acid on, and shot at. Even in America as a software engineer I've been victim of racism in the work place. I can elaborate a whole lot, but I'll just say that many a software IT place has far more people from India than America these days running those shops. They aren't all friendly with white people there.

As for expressing my views on what I would do in Arbery's situation, that is all anyone can do. That is called empathy and putting yourself in the same situation. Who are you to say I can't do that?

And yes, you literally can't be racist if you love, hold, and sleep with someone not of you "race" every damn night. Bear kids with that person and those kids aren't of your race but you hold and love them dearly. What the crack pipe are you smoking trying to say that is a racist trope?

For the last thing, yes, I have many non-white friends which include many black friends from America. They grew up in good neighborhoods, didn't live in the hood, went to ivy league schools, and have great jobs. Not a single one them has ever been the victim of a violent racist action. Most of them never of any form of racist action. Not every person in this country will ever experience racism in their lives regardless of their skin color. If you can't understand that comment I am sorry you see the world as pure racism around you.
 

pauldun170

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By local law enforcement I include prosecutors. Wonder if that DA will be charged with culpable negligence?

It's the United States
I could put 1000 innocent people in jail after withholding evidence.
I could have some of them executed. I could look the other way whenever I want.

It won't matter how many editorial boards condemn me. It won't matter if I lose my job
I'm still going to collect my pension and simply open up a private practice.
Maybe I'll nab a job as lobbyist or run for office.
 

HomerJS

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Wow you are looking through everything through the lens of racism here. I wasn't lecturing anyone on anything. Racism isn't a black thing only despite what you may think. You realize that white people are the minority on the planet, and outside a few areas of the world are not exactly viewed friendly. Get off your high horse if you think white people can't be targetted by racist actions. I certainly have. I've been beaten, thrown acid on, and shot at. Even in America as a software engineer I've been victim of racism in the work place. I can elaborate a whole lot, but I'll just say that many a software IT place has far more people from India than America these days running those shops. They aren't all friendly with white people there.

As for expressing my views on what I would do in Arbery's situation, that is all anyone can do. That is called empathy and putting yourself in the same situation. Who are you to say I can't do that?

And yes, you literally can't be racist if you love, hold, and sleep with someone not of you "race" every damn night. Bear kids with that person and those kids aren't of your race but you hold and love them dearly. What the crack pipe are you smoking trying to say that is a racist trope?

For the last thing, yes, I have many non-white friends which include many black friends from America. They grew up in good neighborhoods, didn't live in the hood, went to ivy league schools, and have great jobs. Not a single one them has ever been the victim of a violent racist action. Most of them never of any form of racist action. Not every person in this country will ever experience racism in their lives regardless of their skin color. If you can't understand that comment I am sorry you see the world as pure racism around you.
I'll make 2 points.

I'm not trying to beat up on you but you are highly ignorant on the subject. Saying someone having sex with someone outside their race you can't be racist kinda shows it. Look up the history of slavery and what went on in massa's house. Did you know Strom Thurmond used to bang black women? Ever heard of Sally Hemmings?

As for your well to do black friends, this is based on personal experience and knowing history, either your friends are not telling you or they don't even know when they are victims of systemic racism. Violence is not required. I suggest you just ask them one day.

BTW - Strawmen are not good supporting points "Not every person in this country will ever experience racism in their lives regardless of their skin color". "white people can't be targeted by racist actions" Duh! People everyday hit the lottery doesn't means your odds are good.
 
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JEDIYoda

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And yes, you literally can't be racist if you love, hold, and sleep with someone not of you "race" every damn night. Bear kids with that person and those kids aren't of your race but you hold and love them dearly. What the crack pipe are you smoking trying to say that is a racist trope?

For the last thing, yes, I have many non-white friends which include many black friends from America. They grew up in good neighborhoods, didn't live in the hood, went to ivy league schools, and have great jobs. Not a single one them has ever been the victim of a violent racist action. Most of them never of any form of racist action. Not every person in this country will ever experience racism in their lives regardless of their skin color. If you can't understand that comment I am sorry you see the world as pure racism around you.
Playing the I have black friends card...thus I must not be ......
You are so out of touch with reality! Times have not changed!
 

Meghan54

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Again just wow. Way to slander a whole region of the US because of two pricks. Just grow up.

Bet you've never lived in the South, have you? I am surely not slandering a region because of two assholes, who seem to mirror you in many respects, numb nuts.

No, I grew up in GA, from the late 1950's until today....although I did manage to leave in the early 1970's for a while. Got to expand my horizons and mind.

But racism in GA, as well as the rest of the South, is as natural as breathing.

So, unless and until you've spent some significant amount of time living in the south, in something smaller than ATL, then you've got no credence talking down to me, little boy, although you'll just enjoy showing your ass in an attempt to chastise me. LOL!

Racism in the south is deeply ingrained in white culture, institutions, and pretty much everything else.

Ever wonder why the South as a region went apeshit ballistic when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed? No, of course you haven't.

And the violence perpetrated against blacks in the south in the 50's and 60's because they demanded equality doesn't mean a thing to you, does it? Here's something to consider....the same idiots that were trying to keep blacks "in their place" back in the 60's are still living in the South to this day....they're called conservatives.

So shut the fuck up little boy because you have no clue as to what reality is in the South. You claim to know, but you know shit, which you display every time you post here.
 
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Homerboy

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Armed members of the Black Panthers have shown up in their neighborhood to take a walk...
 

HumblePie

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Bet you've never lived in the South, have you? I am surely not slandering a region because of two assholes, who seem to mirror you in many respects, numb nuts.

No, I grew up in GA, from the late 1950's until today....although I did manage to leave in the early 1970's for a while. Got to expand my horizons and mind.

But racism in GA, as well as the rest of the South, is as natural as breathing.

So, unless and until you've spent some significant amount of time living in the south, in something smaller than ATL, then you've got no credence talking down to me, little boy, although you'll just enjoy showing your ass in an attempt to chastise me. LOL!

Racism in the south is deeply ingrained in white culture, institutions, and pretty much everything else.

Ever wonder why the South as a region went apeshit ballistic when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed? No, of course you haven't.

And the violence perpetrated against blacks in the south in the 50's and 60's because they demanded equality doesn't mean a thing to you, does it? Here's something to consider....the same idiots that were trying to keep blacks "in their place" back in the 60's are still living in the South to this day....they're called conservatives.

So shut the fuck up little boy because you have no clue as to what reality is in the South. You claim to know, but you know shit, which you display every time you post here.

I live in South Texas currently. Have lived and visited all over the south. My wife lived in Georgia and Louisiana for a good many years as well. I have also lived overseas and abroad. I have family in Arkansas, Florida, and Arizona. Some of which I call black sheep because they literally have a confederate flag flying on a flag pole in their yard and white robes on a coat rack. I don't hang out with those people as they were my father's 3rd cousins I met in Tennessee or Kentucky when I was about 8. It was certainly an awkward place to visit since I knew what those were and I was raised to not judge a person by the color of their skin.

So don't assume shit about people. It pretty easy you have a chip on your shoulder and want to view the world as evil around you. Pretty sad life really.
 

HumblePie

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Side note as to why Arbery would stop at new home construction.


IF he was thoughtful enough to realize that the new construction was important info to pass along to his father, a pit stop to review the house as well property makes perfect sense.

No one needs a reason for that. My house was built in a subdivision that was new and was still largely under construction. Everyone that was already here popped into the houses under construction to see what they looked like. Once the doors were on with locks that was different. Still, I don't think anyone needs a reason for that.
 

HumblePie

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I'll make 2 points.

I'm not trying to beat up on you but you are highly ignorant on the subject. Saying someone having sex with someone outside their race you can't be racist kinda shows it. Look up the history of slavery and what went on in massa's house. Did you know Strom Thurmond used to bang black women? Ever heard of Sally Hemmings?

As for your well to do black friends, this is based on personal experience and knowing history, either your friends are not telling you or they don't even know when they are victims of systemic racism. Violence is not required. I suggest you just ask them one day.

BTW - Strawmen are not good supporting points "Not every person in this country will ever experience racism in their lives regardless of their skin color". "white people can't be targeted by racist actions" Duh! People everyday hit the lottery doesn't means your odds are good.

Automatically assigned a derogatory term towards someone just because they are of a certain race is racism though. Calling a white person racist just because they are white is racism. I am not highly ignorant on the subject at all. There is a difference between raising a family and raping slaves. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.
 

JEDIYoda

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white guy jogging around the neighbourhood with a tv didn't get shot...why's that?

white dude jogging with tv not getting stopped for theft
ok...wait, wait let me guess....
He was
I live in South Texas currently. Have lived and visited all over the south. My wife lived in Georgia and Louisiana for a good many years as well. I have also lived overseas and abroad. I have family in Arkansas, Florida, and Arizona. Some of which I call black sheep because they literally have a confederate flag flying on a flag pole in their yard and white robes on a coat rack. I don't hang out with those people as they were my father's 3rd cousins I met in Tennessee or Kentucky when I was about 8. It was certainly an awkward place to visit since I knew what those were and I was raised to not judge a person by the color of their skin.

So don't assume shit about people. It pretty easy you have a chip on your shoulder and want to view the world as evil around you. Pretty sad life really.
Why? Obviously you and your friends have never experienced what is a daily thing for black people living in a majority of the south........
 
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JEDIYoda

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white guy jogging around the neighbourhood with a tv didn't get shot...why's that?

white dude jogging with tv not getting stopped for theft
wait, wait let me guess.....
He was wearing his ballcap backwards?
He was winking at all the pretty girls?
He was possibly the mayors son?
He went to school with the police officers?
He easts country fried chicken?
ahhh I get it -- he is W--H--I--T--E!!!!!!!
 
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esquared

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Finally had to put this ignorant mothereffer on ignore.
 
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Bitek

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IDK what kind of world we live in where a bunch of white, cosplay militia motherfuckers can a gear up and storm a state capital building (for whatever bullshit reason of the week) and police do nothing.

Yet an unarmed black guy jogging down the street can get gunned down by two hillbillies, and that's determined by the police to be perfectly ok and nothing happens.

So what's the laws here? And if it's Anyone can shoot Anyone, can some people start lighting up these whiney militia protestors and rid us of someone more deserving of being dusted?
 
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