Trayvon Martin all over again.

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nickqt

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IDK what kind of world we live in where a bunch of white, cosplay militia motherfuckers can a gear up and storm a state capital building (for whatever bullshit reason of the week) and police do nothing.

Yet an unarmed black guy jogging down the street can get gunned down by two hillbillies, and that's determined by the police to be perfectly ok and nothing happens.

So what's the laws here? And if it's Anyone can shoot Anyone, can some people start lighting up these whiney militia protestors and rid us of someone more deserving of being dusted?
Well, when the law of the land is "stand your ground", being the only one breathing helps a lot in your own legal defense.
 

HomerJS

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Automatically assigned a derogatory term towards someone just because they are of a certain race is racism though. Calling a white person racist just because they are white is racism. I am not highly ignorant on the subject at all. There is a difference between raising a family and raping slaves. If you can't see the difference I can't help you.
When did I ever say or even hint a white person is racist because they are white? Check your reading comprehension.
Sally Hemmings was not known in history to be the victim of rape but had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. Strom Thurmond who was a proud card carrying racist had sex with black women he was never accused of rape.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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Well, when the law of the land is "stand your ground", being the only one breathing helps a lot in your own legal defense.

It just seems more and more the law isn't blind.

It's all about who you know, who you are, what God you believe in, how rich you are, his much money is at stake, and if you're not the right side of any of those, then get ready to get fucked.
Life is never fair, but the criminals are taking over.
 
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HumblePie

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For those thinking, and in some cases saying, that this doesn't happen the other way...


Just as bad, just as tragic, and racially motivated. I am not posting this to take away from the OP story. I am posting this so people can keep perspective that race issues are not one sided.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
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When did I ever say or even hint a white person is racist because they are white? Check your reading comprehension.
Sally Hemmings was not known in history to be the victim of rape but had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. Strom Thurmond who was a proud card carrying racist had sex with black women he was never accused of rape.

I didn't say you did. The first statement is just a statement of fact and applies to anyone that does so. Please check your reading comprehension because if I was blaming you for it, I would call you out directly.

The second part of the comment was a bit more directed at you. Talking about Thomas Jefferson and what happen near 200 years ago is no where near anything that happens today. It was SLAVERY then and suffice it to say, it was rape. She had no say so as she was property then. As for Strom Thurmond, we have no idea on if it was rape or not. Again different period and while blacks were not slaves, they where legally treated as less than whites in America. Please don't even try to equate bi-racial marriages of today to what those were back then. In neither example were those marriages and legal families. It is almost repugnant to even try to associate them in the same way. Yes, I am a bit offended you even brought them up.
 

pauldun170

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For those thinking, and in some cases saying, that this doesn't happen the other way...


Just as bad, just as tragic, and racially motivated. I am not posting this to take away from the OP story. I am posting this so people can keep perspective that race issues are not one sided.

LOL
Bothsides!!!
White lives matter
I found a random murder on google read my article!! It's just like the topic!!!

You are failing significantly in this thread and its actually kinda fun to watch.
 
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HumblePie

Lifer
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LOL


You are failing significantly in this thread and its actually kinda fun to watch.

Did you even read about the story? A black man stalked an elder y white couple visiting their son's grave in a cemetary. He used a scoped rifle from the woods nearby and killed them. He had drones setup for recon and had been set up there for days. As far as anyone knows, has zero connection with the couple. What the hell is wrong with you to even make the absurd statements you just made?
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Did you even read about the story? A black man stalked an elder y white couple visiting their son's grave in a cemetary. He used a scoped rifle from the woods nearby and killed them. He had drones setup for recon and had been set up there for days. As far as anyone knows, has zero connection with the couple. What the hell is wrong with you to even make the absurd statements you just made?

What was your point in posting that? To say that sometimes black people kill white people? I'm sure there must be someone around here who thinks that has never, ever happened in all of history, so thanks for the education.

BTW, did the perp in your article skate for 2 months while the authorities failed to prosecute him? Oh wait, he was found dead in the woods from a gunshot wound, and it's unclear if he killed himself he was or was killed by police.

At least the cops got right on that one.
 
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HumblePie

Lifer
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What was your point in posting that? To say that sometimes black people kill white people? I'm sure there must be someone around here who thinks that has never, ever happened in all of history, so thanks for the education.

BTW, did the perp in your article skate for 2 months while the authorities failed to prosecute him? Oh wait, he was found dead in the woods from a gunshot wound, and it's unclear if he killed himself he was or was killed by police.

At least the cops got right on that one.

The point was what I had stated. You got people in the world saying shit like "If it was a the other way..." in various scenarios sarcastically like it never happens that way. I've already been accused of in this thread of not having any idea what it is like to be targeted by racist people because I am white with my white privilege. That post was to bring levity and perspective. Maybe keep people from tunnel visioning on one aspect of the problem of racism.
 
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JEDIYoda

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The point was what I had stated. You got people in the world saying shit like "If it was a the other way..." in various scenarios sarcastically like it never happens that way. I've already been accused of in this thread of not having any idea what it is like to be targeted by racist people because I am white with my white privilege. That post was to bring levity and perspective. Maybe keep people from tunnel visioning on one aspect of the problem of racism.
So you found a case where it was the other way around ! Goody for you! There are always exceptions to the norm! Would you care to guess the percentage between one and the other? You bet he- a hell of a lot more than the exception! This still doesn’t mean anything! You still have no clue! One case out of maybe 100!! That is laughable!!
 
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ch33zw1z

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Did you even read about the story? A black man stalked an elder y white couple visiting their son's grave in a cemetary. He used a scoped rifle from the woods nearby and killed them. He had drones setup for recon and had been set up there for days. As far as anyone knows, has zero connection with the couple. What the hell is wrong with you to even make the absurd statements you just made?

Maybe he thought they were stealing because they were white and saw them jogging.

We will never know, police likely fatally wounded him in the shootout, ballistics will be conducted assuredly.

Wow, really close to the same. Btw, can't read the stardem article behind the pay wall, I found a court other articles.

Your attempt at perspective hasn't provided the effect you intended.

I did get a chuckle out of the absurd statement thing. You spent a good deal of words making absurd statements. However, yesterday...after you finally started reading up on the topic, you changed your stance on the mcnutters. Kudos to that, but it may have been better to spend the energy reading up on it prior to posting all sorts of it's and buts about the situation.
 
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HomerJS

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I didn't say you did. The first statement is just a statement of fact and applies to anyone that does so. Please check your reading comprehension because if I was blaming you for it, I would call you out directly.

The second part of the comment was a bit more directed at you. Talking about Thomas Jefferson and what happen near 200 years ago is no where near anything that happens today. It was SLAVERY then and suffice it to say, it was rape. She had no say so as she was property then. As for Strom Thurmond, we have no idea on if it was rape or not. Again different period and while blacks were not slaves, they where legally treated as less than whites in America. Please don't even try to equate bi-racial marriages of today to what those were back then. In neither example were those marriages and legal families. It is almost repugnant to even try to associate them in the same way. Yes, I am a bit offended you even brought them up.
Those were more famous examples. If you think even today having sex with someone outside you race means you think their race is your equal, you have no clue about human nature.
 
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HumblePie

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Those were more famous examples. If you think even today having sex with someone outside you race means you think their race is your equal, you have no clue about human nature.

Dude just stop. Seriously. There is a fucking difference between having a random night of sex with someone outside your race versus raising a fucking family and marrying them. I can't believe you can't see the difference. Get over yourself.
 
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pauldun170

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So you found a case where it was the other way around ! Goody for you! There are always exceptions to the norm! Would you care to guess the percentage between one and the other? You bet he- a hell of a lot more than the exception! This still doesn’t mean anything! You still have no clue! One case out of maybe 100!! That is laughable!!

He didn't find a case that was the other way around. The case he found didn't even come close.
Based on his comments in this thread, maybe his huge black friend card is obscuring his view. Between his victimhood complex and all those black people around him, he may have trouble focusing on details of the case.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
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Maybe he thought they were stealing because they were white and saw them jogging.

We will never know, police likely fatally wounded him in the shootout, ballistics will be conducted assuredly.

Wow, really close to the same. Btw, can't read the stardem article behind the pay wall, I found a court other articles.

Your attempt at perspective hasn't provided the effect you intended.

I did get a chuckle out of the absurd statement thing. You spent a good deal of words making absurd statements. However, yesterday...after you finally started reading up on the topic, you changed your stance on the mcnutters. Kudos to that, but it may have been better to spend the energy reading up on it prior to posting all sorts of it's and buts about the situation.

Those adamant about being outraged and wanting to see only one side of racism will continue to do so. They won't get it and it seems you are one of those by this post. My post wasn't for you. It was for the off chance person reading this thread that reads it and thinks to themself, "hmm I didn't know white people are also shot for being white."

Considering the majority makeup of people on this forum though I guess i should doubt that outcome. As I've said, it has become one giant echo chamber here and this is why this forum has fallen so far. Same thing is happening to reddit and world politics forum there. When people can't have civil discourse over important issues we get this. From the start I was making posts about listing out the facts of the case at the time. I just didn't jump to any conclusions because I always give benefit of the doubt. People here attacked me and those posts frothing at the mouth while doing so I can only imagine. I even called out it would happen. Practically no one even tried to engage in a civil conversation with me on the topic. Heck, I am not sure why I am even typing this back at you because I doubt you'll get it. Or maybe you do and you don't care.

I say this because we have a world these days filled with people doing this.

Jessie Smollets, and others wanting to stoke racial tensions so that sheep become blind and that is all they see.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Those adamant about being outraged and wanting to see only one side of racism will continue to do so. They won't get it and it seems you are one of those by this post. My post wasn't for you. It was for the off chance person reading this thread that reads it and thinks to themself, "hmm I didn't know white people are also shot for being white."

Considering the majority makeup of people on this forum though I guess i should doubt that outcome. As I've said, it has become one giant echo chamber here and this is why this forum has fallen so far. Same thing is happening to reddit and world politics forum there. When people can't have civil discourse over important issues we get this. From the start I was making posts about listing out the facts of the case at the time. I just didn't jump to any conclusions because I always give benefit of the doubt. People here attacked me and those posts frothing at the mouth while doing so I can only imagine. I even called out it would happen. Practically no one even tried to engage in a civil conversation with me on the topic. Heck, I am not sure why I am even typing this back at you because I doubt you'll get it. Or maybe you do and you don't care.

Lol, you're funny man. Obvious racism is obvious. You wanna pretend like people are just conjuring facts up, that's on you.

It's nice how you're the victim here too.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Dude just stop. Seriously. There is a fucking difference between having a random night of sex with someone outside your race versus raising a fucking family and marrying them. I can't believe you can't see the difference. Get over yourself.

Do you make sure to remind your loved ones why you're not a racist on a regular basis?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Personally, I haven't seen anyone in this forum try to pretend like there's no racism towards whites, Latinos, Asians, Africans, middle easy persons, etc..

The problem generally comes down to where it's coming from, and how often you will feel and it

Racism towards whites it typically, and I'd say almost always, from the general populace.

Racism towards minorities isn't just from the general populace, it's systemic.

My own personal anecdotes, from 15 years living in a downtown urban areas, is that you're likely to find bigotry towards whites from time to time. But, out here in rural areas where I am now, I hear much more racism towards minorities from whites. It's also likely I would've been the same way, since I spent 6 years out in the same rural area when I was young.

I was a "victim" once or twice of verbal harassment because I was white, easily diffused with words.

However, the instance that stands out is when I experienced racial profiling from two policemen, one black and one Latino. I won't go into details, it didnt amount to much, they just inadvertently admitted I was pulled over because I was white and had a shiney red car with t-tops lol.

This isn't the topic. The topic is the stereotyping thats built into a large portion of America, and how that stereotyping paints a first impression of minorities leading to inherent systemic racism towards minorities. I'll readily admit I took part in such things for much of my life, as that's the way of things. However, growing up a but, I've challenged myself to change. It's not easy, and not surprising that so many 'Muricans can't or won't.
 
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HumblePie

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Do you make sure to remind your loved ones why you're not a racist on a regular basis?

This is what I am talking about. Indirectly calling me racist with an ad hominen attack after you said I was playing the victim card. You still did it. You aren't the only one either. I would report the post, but I doubt the mods would bother to respond even if it is against the rules. You really are a piece of something.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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This is what I am talking about. Indirectly calling me racist with an ad hominen attack after you said I was playing the victim card. You still did it. You aren't the only one either. I would report the post, but I doubt the mods would bother to respond even if it is against the rules. You really are a piece of something.

Cry moar. I was just banned for two weeks. The mods are fair, I deserved it. Report away. Oh, and you're the victim.

At least you got educated on the mcnutters and evolved your opinion. Kudos.
 
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