Trident's XP4 Benchmark Preview

[aswedc]

In your Inbox now, for newsletter subscribers...

 

[CrazySaint]

Hmmm...I haven't got it yet...

 

[shabby]

Spill the beans all you hotshot subscribers

 

[BeauJangles]

link for non-newsletter people.

(Sorry for the hotmail BS)

 

[aswedc]

Fixed link that doesn't go through HotMail

I guess if he posted it I can too <shrug>

 

[BD231]

This card should do well.

 

[CrazySaint]

Looks good. I wish it were coming sooner than October, but still looks very interesting

 

[NFS4]

Looks very promising...I can't wait to see the $99 version

 

[John]

Not a bad start.

 

[Diable]

I don't see what's so great about this card. Its slower then a Radeon 9000 Pro which you can get right now for $85.

 

[BD231]

Originally posted by: Diable
I don't see what's so great about this card. Its slower then a Radeon 9000 Pro which you can get right now for $85.

Perhaps you should re-read the artical.

 

[Leon]

Benchmarks @ 800 x 600 only benchmark cpu or geometry capability of [x] card, depending how optimized the game is. I am sorry, but these benches are absolutely useless....nobody plays at this resolution anymore.

Leon

 

[BFG10K]

Those benchmarks are not terribly useful.

Gauging the performance of a video card at 800 x 600 is no different to trying 640 x 480 and then saying that the Radeon 8500 is the same speed as a GF4 Ti4600 because it's scoring the same amount, for example.

Lets see how the Trident does at 1600 x 1200 compared to the other cards and then we can comment on how fast it is.

 

[Diable]

Originally posted by: bdog231

Originally posted by: Diable
I don't see what's so great about this card. Its slower then a Radeon 9000 Pro which you can get right now for $85.

Perhaps you should re-read the artical.

Ok bdog231, I read it again and I still don't see what so great about a cheap unreleased graphic card with crappy ass drivers that's slower then another cheap graphic cards with decent drivers that for sale right now, maybe you can tell me?

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Diable

Originally posted by: bdog231

Originally posted by: Diable
I don't see what's so great about this card. Its slower then a Radeon 9000 Pro which you can get right now for $85.

Perhaps you should re-read the artical.

Ok bdog231, I read it again and I still don't see what so great about a cheap unreleased graphic card with crappy ass drivers that's slower then another cheap graphic cards with decent drivers that for sale right now, maybe you can tell me?

The R9000 Pro has already been released and has mature drivers. The XP4 is still on beta drivers, and the card isn't due to be released until october so these are still quite early results. Also note, that the card they benched was the XP4 T2, not the T3 which will about 20% faster than the T2. The T2 should also be cheaper than the 9000 Pro, the T3 is the $99 card. So "what's so great" about it, is that its more or less on schedule for the T3 to match a Ti4200.

The questions that remain are: Will they really reach 80% of a Ti4600 (~Ti4200)? and Will it be too late to matter? Its not unrealistic to expect the Ti4200 to be at or near $100 by October.

 

[Noj]

Originally posted by: Leon
Benchmarks @ 800 x 600 only benchmark cpu or geometry capability of [x] card, depending how optimized the game is. I am sorry, but these benches are absolutely useless....nobody plays at this resolution anymore.

Leon

I play games at 800 x 600, I even play games at 640 x 480 (though not too often). Not everyone can afford top of the line hardware, and the latest games tend to kill framerates rather badly when your hardware isn't up to scratch. On top of that, when you play games competitively you'll want the best framerates you can get (i.e. 60+ FPS 95% of the time, and NEVER below 30FPS).
IMO 800 x 600 seems just about right if you wanted to play UT2003 multiplayer on a 1600+ with a XP4.

 

[Adul]

I love the news letter

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Adul
I love the news letter

Me too

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Athlon4all]

Impressive. The T3 would prolly top the 9000 Pro even with current drivers and like Anand said, it is very possible for Trident to produce the first competitor to the Ti 4200. ATi may be the king in the Sub-$120 arena right now, but with XP4, inevitable GF4 Ti price drops, things are heating up again!

About 800x600, gotta realize that even for the lower end DX8 GPU's like the XP4, R9000, UT 2003 is still a very intensive and demanding game for these cards. The R9000 Pro from its review only got 45.9 fps at 1024x768 in Dm-Antalus, and that is simply too low for it to be played smoothly. Now the Ti 4200 certainly yes canb handle 1024x768 (70.9 fps in Antalus) but the Ti 4200 ius still slightly outside the price range of these cards (for now). And the only other UT 2003 test that I have seen that doesn't produce similar results on the R9000 Pro/Ti 4200 is Asbestos.

In any case, there wasn't much Anand could do, Trident picked these benchys, Anand just ran them on the Ti 4200 and R9000 Pro. It is impressive for certain. Considering that the XP4 T2 that was benchmarks was clocked 25MHz lower and had less mem bandy avialable then the R9000 Pro, that sure says alot about how Trident's Shared Pipeline Architechure is doing decently well against ATi's R9000 Pro.

 

[bluemax]

So... any ETA on its full availability?
I'm thinking of going Radeon 9000 for the RealVideo enhancement and the fact it's only $75US. ($120 Canadian...) Man that's cheap.

The XP4 may well be faster, but the 9000 will be plenty fast too.
Of course, if it's not far away, I can wait.......

 

[bigben]

egad i hope it gets better..i need a replacement for my geforce2

 

[McCarthy]

One of the things that's hot about it is here's a card many of us hadn't even heard about till last week and now here we have some benchmarks from a working card. Trident's been off doing their thing elsewhere forever, then just pop in with "hey, give this a look" while taunting nVidia and ATI.

In a world where fictional hardware competes with news releases and leaks about stuff that may actually come out, it's refreshing to have a fairly straightforward approach. I too hope it does meet the goal of 80% speed, otherwise that becomes hype like everything else. At the very least nicer than the Matrox announcement approach.

Oh, and no whiney little fan, at least on the XP4-T2. Very cool.

 

[aswedc]

The Inquirer is reporting that Trident expects the XP4 T2 to perform 10% faster than the Radeon 9000, so comparing their expectations for the T2 to the actual numbers it seems the T3 probably has to gain a lot of speed too to reach its expected TI4200 speeds.