In case you failed to read, I said Core i3. If you've gone to school, you'd know "3" is a different number from "5". And since this follows simple economics, the i3 has cheaper unit pricing than the i5.
Am I the only one that's frustrated that all the e-tailers seem to market AMD Fusion/Trinity as a discrete GPU?
I'm tired of sorting laptops by Discrete GPU on Newegg and seeing AMD E-350s pop up next a Core i7 monster with a Geforce 560m
In contrast Intel HD3000/4000 laptops do not show up under discrete GPU filters
For the time being I'm still sticking on the cpu + gpu bandwagon. I just picked up a Lenovo y570 for $600 refurbished with an i7 2620qm and gt555m. There are some seemingly simple tasks I need to do on a daily basis (like expanding some pretty big excel spreadsheets) that actually let me benefit from all 8 threads. I almost took the leap on a discrete-less laptop this generation- but it was going to be for an IVB, not AMD... until they can get their CPU performance up, I really have no interest
They managed to gain a meager 0.7% when it comes to overall sales. Are you suggesting that 0.7% means AMD is dominating? Get real. Intel is still ahead and will continue to be ahead. Now that their IGPs will be as good or nearly as good as AMD's, they'll have the (very small) budget gaming PC market cornered, too.
Yea, please link that deal. I might hop on that right now.
What's the quality of the refurb like? Matte or glossy screen?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-pla-_-NA-_-NA
or maybe not :/ It seems like the GT555 suffers from a case of nVidia Fermi mobile.
Ridiculous "argument", if you can even call it that.
Do you have anything of substance to add?
AMD dominating? Not at all, but it is quite apparent Intel does feel the pressure from AMDs new take on mobile. Through their large investment in iGPU and aggressive pricing in the price zone where AMD competes the most just as Llano appeared in retail.
Also, most of the AMD IGP advantage disappeared.
Even worse , a Trinity against a i3 , that s really a no brainer.....
Yep. A dual IVB will lay to waste a dual Trinity.
This makes no sense. Llano vs. hd3000 is about 10-50%
Trinity vs. hd4000 is about 10-50%.
If anything the advantage is maintained through the course of releases.
CPU - yes
GPU - no
What's sad in all these arguments is that most of the posts seem to use certain benchmarks, certain comparisons, etc. which often are not apples to apples to justify their positions.
People who want mobility, everyday computing, and gaming will choose Trinity.
People who want raw CPU power for more intense tasks will choose IVB.
Ok?
I only see the reason to go AMD in this case if you want an extremelly budget oriented mobile device (or energy efficient) for everyday tasks. Any Intel CPU now has more power, so combined with a good card from nVidia it is a no brainer for a gaming platform. No need to go IGP if you expect solid graphics performance anyways.
Nope, wrong. And only the A10 will feature the IGP you see in the reviews. The Trinity A8's IGP will have a comparable speed to the Llano A8 IGP.
Intel made a much bigger jump going from HD 3000 to HD 4000 than AMD did going from HD 6620G to HD 7660G.
I guess if you only look at the AT benchmarks? As shown in many posts before this (i.e. Skyrim was kind of strange), there is some major discrepancies there that you continue to ignore. But even then,
From their own wording.
Trinity vs hd3000 80% improvement
Trinity vs Llano 56% improvement
Trinity vs hd4000 20% improvement.
Yes there is some variance. I personally hold that 20%, hd4000 vs trinity, number as ehh, we'll see.
Trinity vs. Llano is a 20% improvement... :hmm:
I don't care about cherry-picking benchmarks. I'm saying the average improvement.
Yeah I mis grabbed that llano.
Average improvement can be just as misleading as cherry picking. A smart person looks at each benchmark independently and say why is that so? When you see a large variance, you need to drill down to where each platform excels. In this case, it looks like if you just looked at dx11 systems, that number would skew in Trinity's favor.
So is the HD 4000 15% faster than the HD 7660G now?
Skyrim is one of the (if not the) most popular games that were benchmarked. It's certainly more popular than Batman:AA, Civ V, DiRT 3, Portal 2, and Shogun 2 and about on par with BF3, though in that game neither the HD 4000 or HD 7660G deliver playable performance.
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Wow have you guys seen the new zenbook review? They wont say what 2 core 4 thread chip is in there, exactly. But they've said enough:
This is very close to what the A10 is going to be priced up against this summer. Also note that mobile trinity is much closer in real TDP to this 17W chip than the 45W intel beast. Battery life tests on many ULV notebooks seem to agree.
35W Trinity is almost directly equivalent to a 25W intel, and not far at all from what's in this zenbook in terms of power consumption. By all rights, the A10-4600M is an ultrabook chip! According to the power consumption numbers they can stick this chip in that small a chassis and it will get no hotter than a 17W intel. Now will oem's actually do it? Probably not, because of the reputation AMD has of running so hot. Isnt it ironic that this reputation still persists even when intel 17W ULV chips pull nearly as much power as 35W A10?
CPU - yes
GPU - no
What's sad in all these arguments is that most of the posts seem to use certain benchmarks, certain comparisons, etc. which often are not apples to apples to justify their positions.
People who want mobility, everyday computing, and gaming will choose Trinity.
People who want raw CPU power for more intense tasks will choose IVB.
Ok?
Also, funny that you say AMD is ahead in power consumption, yet you completely brushed over the fact that the one-year-old 35W i5-2410M has the same relative battery life as the 35W A10-4600M. Convenient, isn't it?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33460091&postcount=438
Edit: But feel free to bury your head and ignore things that don't meet your agenda.