Yet none of the reviewers complained about the drivers. Right...
As for your request about driver updates making a difference, IntelUser2000 already filled it.
First off, I am not praising AMD's driver team, I am just saying that they are (AFAIK) far better than Intel's. I acknowledge that they are notorious for having buggy drivers.
Second, I openly mentioned that I may not be up to date regarding Intel's driver team. You don't have to be so hostile about correcting me if they have gotten better.
Third, can you show me an Intel driver update that improved gaming performance over the previous driver version? That's all I asked of you in the first place.
Yet none of the reviewers complained about the drivers. Right...
As for your request about driver updates making a difference, IntelUser2000 already filled it.
I was referring to AMD, regarding the buggy drivers.
It was just an oversight in editing that it was formatted to look like I was referring to Intel's drivers.
And, I didn't read through the rest of the thread when I had posted.
Thanks, IntelUser2000. :thumbsup:
On the flip side of the coin, if you cherry pick in favor of the HD 7660G, it's 88% faster in a game almost no one plays: Civ V.
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Yep. A dual IVB will lay to waste a dual Trinity.
In reality your argument is very much flawed because in one of the most popular games the HD 4000 is faster. You say the gap is bigger in DX11 games, but in a popular title like BF3 the difference closely resembles the average (23% faster).
CIV V
Total Units sold
North America: 0.55m 51.3%
+ Europe: 0.38m 35.6%
+ Rest of the World: 0.14m 13.1%
= Global 1.07m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/43507/sid-meiers-civilization-v/
CIV V
Total Units sold
North America: 0.55m 51.3%
+ Europe: 0.38m 35.6%
+ Rest of the World: 0.14m 13.1%
= Global 1.07m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/43507/sid-meiers-civilization-v/
Data-Collection Methodology
All sales estimates on VGChartz are arrived at via a number of proprietrary and ever-developing methods:
Passively polling end users to find out what games they are currently purchasing and playing
Polling retail partners to find out what games and hardware they are selling
Using statistical trend fitting and historical data for similar games
Studying resell prices to determine consumer demand and inventory levels
Consulting with publishers and manufacturers to find out how many units they are introducing into the channel
1M is rather small when it comes to sales, especially given it's a PC-only title.
Civ V isn't a popular game.
I just don't get why people bash on Intel's drivers when none of the reviewers complained about either games not being compatible or having anomalies/artifacts or big image quality issues. They said game compatibility was "great", image quality was "good", and issues were "few". Intel is also making much more frequent driver updates than in the last year, so their drivers aren't bad. The same people bashing Intel's drivers are at many times the same praising AMD's, when right now a small amount of people experience issues with AMD's drivers.
Their data is just awful. By their numbers, Portal 2 sold 570k units for the PC. In may, Gabe Newell said that the PC version outsold the console versions, with total of 4M sold.
They essentially have no way to count digital sales, and all sales on the PC are moving to digital.
12 games tested, 6 games issues
Always in the wrong understanding.
Are you one of those happy FB shareholders ?..
If you did made a little effort , you would have realized
that he was saying that a 4C Trinity will be concurrenced
by a 2C/4T IB....
don't forget! cards like HD6450 and GTX510
exist only because of drivers quality
doh'p ...i failed hard here O.O
That proves no such thing.
The i7-2630QM was updated to the i7-2670QM for the same price last year. Does that mean Intel was "afraid and pressured" by AMD to make a faster version? This is the most nonsensical argument I've heard in this thread.
BF3
Total Units Sold
North America: 0.63m 32.7%
+ Europe: 1.00m 51.7%
+ Rest of the World: 0.30m 15.6%
= Global 1.93m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/35315/battlefield-3/
I guess Civ V is popular in the US as BF3 is, less than 100k difference
Heh, Civ V is close to Skyrim in the US, only ~150k sales difference.
Skyrim
Total Units
North America: 0.71m 32.5%
+ Europe: 1.14m 51.9%
+ Rest of the World: 0.34m 15.6%
= Global 2.19m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/49111/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/
1m sales for a PC game is huge and Civ V is very popular around the globe. Dont downplay a game when the benchmark graph is not in your favor
That increases core speed while leaving iGPU untouched, looks like for IB mobile they will have some SKUs with extra turbo headroom for the iGPU with no change in the cores. Again, Intel seems quite aware of the threat of AMD finally having power efficient mobile offerings.
Keep flailing, it's nice having this thread near the top.
Yet again you fail to explain how this is Intel "feeling a threat from AMD" and not just a normal evolution for a CPU that has better yields and lower leakage.
You do realize there were 2xx5 Sandy Bridge mobile processors which did the exact same thing as yields got better, right? Apple was one of those that took advantage of it as pricing was very similar to the models with slighly lower IGP Turbo.
Again, explain here your reasoning as to how this is "Intel feeling a threat from AMD" other than repeating your statement of "Intel could just not produce them if it didn't matter". Intel didn't have any reason to replace the 2630QM with the 2670QM at the same price because of no competition from AMD, yet they did. Explain how this is any different, especially since it's something they've already done before.
This makes no sense. What does Facebook have to do with Trinity? Or are you trying to make it personal? (you failed, you post just looks dumb).
And if you would have a made a little effort, you would I have realized that I wasn't replying to anything about a 4 core Trinity and a 2 core Ivy.
That's always the AMD fanboys last hope though, compare double the number of cores to at least try to get to parity on CPU performance.
Well this should put the trolls to bed:
(snip power graph)
This is an absolute misnomer. In the synthetic benchmarks the i7 is doing far more units of work. In the rest of the benchmarks they are dead even.
Because these will be released at the same time and in mobile. A separate, presumably slightly pricier, model with faster graphics. A model that can be reviewed against Trinity in reviews and have a narrower gap. They aggressively dropped prices on their lower end products when Llano showed up. These are not the actions of a company that thinks AMD's mobile offerings are of no concern.