Okay, so you admitted making a real threat, are you heading off to jail now?
No of course not, because the idea that a ridiculous threat on the internet is credible is absurd.
and thus by standing up to me. You have now negated the pussy part of my inequality. Logically though not directly I have now threatened you.
This was done in 2 posts. Now imagine if we went back and forth 50 times and you were actually a woman, for which I or most males could easily take.
The threat has gone from implausible to at least probable by most who read it.
So if someone says that they would rape in certain circumstances, you think it's ridiculous to assume that they would?
Okay, so you admitted making a real threat, are you heading off to jail now?
No of course not, because the idea that a ridiculous threat on the internet is credible is absurd.
Okay, so you admitted making a real threat, are you heading off to jail now?
No of course not, because the idea that a ridiculous threat on the internet is credible is absurd.
To be clear, are you equating an anonymous faceless message forum with a social networking site with real names, pictures, and quite frequently location and workplace information?
Hyperbole, False Equivalency, Context. Enough said.
I could easily equate murdering someone in a fancy posh hotel with murdering someone in a grungy McDonalds, because the crime is the same- MURDER.
Police don't (or shouldn't) treat identical crimes differently just because the occur in a different location.
In this case, the crime is the exact same, the difference is the setting- anandtech vs facebook. Does the law as written make a distinction? Does the law only apply to facebook?
To be clear, are you equating an anonymous faceless message forum with a social networking site with real names, pictures, and quite frequently location and workplace information?
Also:
About Schmide
forename
Andrew
surname
Hallendorff
Could be fake. Just like any name on facebook could be fake, nothing is checked or confirmed.
https://www.facebook.com/fbsafety/posts/861043117266861 said:The authentic name requirement has defined and distinguished our service from its earliest days. We firmly believe in and are committed to our authentic name policy, and ask that everyone on Facebook use their authentic name on their profile.
No that's my real info. I have nothing to hide and I stand by everything said in this thread. My point was clear arguing as an example.
Yes, and Zane Alchin's comments were clearly intended to offend, not to serve as an actual true threat.
Even jlee admits this, and he still thinks the guy should be in prison.
Last I checked, the vast majority of names on Facebook are legitimate. Denying that is silly.
Was he charged with threatening?
@Exophase A veiled threat is still a threat. Her picture was the context of the thread. Even using general terms about ones disposition towards certain groups of people, isn't enough to abstract it from her as the context of the conversation.
Edit: Furthermore inferring an inequality, i.e. if you were better looking, does not take off the table the intent of the statement. It was meant to intimidate and rightfully so was used to basis the judgement against him.
I'm not denying it, I am point out that it's a willing process. Nobody is forcing you to get on facebook and use your real name.
It's like paying to see the human centipede and then complaining that the basis of the movie is gross.
WTF are you doing on facebook responding to a guys comments if you think he is threatening you?
She didn't go to the cops because she felt legitimately threatened, she went to the cops because she was getting owned and wanted to ultimately "win" the stupid little facebook fight.
I find it amazing how you find more fault with the one being harassed than you do the perpetrator.
Anyway, you seem to be jumping around topics.
jlee, I want to make sure I understand you thought process. You think it's okay to threaten violence on AT forums because why exactly?
To be clear, are you equating an anonymous faceless message forum with a social networking site with real names, pictures, and quite frequently location and workplace information?
Yes, and Zane Alchin's comments were clearly intended to offend, not to serve as an actual true threat.
Even jlee admits this, and he still thinks the guy should be in prison.
I remember when I was nine years old I got into some kind of heated verbal fight with another kid. It was a few weeks after my father died. I don't remember who started it or what it was even over but I do remember at the end the kid said that my father was dead because he killed him. Now I doubt he actually did, but I wasn't there when he died and he didn't get an autopsy so I can't really say for sure. At any rate, even if he didn't really kill my father if he's going to say something like this he probably has the potential to kill people, doesn't he? Why else would he have said something like that? Maybe he should have been locked up, or at least put on a list with the actual murderers, a list he's legally required to tell everyone he's on.
I mean it's just risk mitigation.
Anyone can assume anything they want, but criminal charges should be based on facts and proof, not assumptions.
Context is EVERYTHING, it's not wishful thinking.
Pretty poor idea to admit that so openly.
So, uh, when you said this...
You were not actually trying to argue that the situation is different and the threat of violence is okay? Why did you even make that statement, if you weren't trying to imply the above? If the threat of violence *is* equally wrong on these forums, are you calling the police to haul away Schmide? Why or why not?
He pleaded guilty! The context and fervor in the FB posts were obviously well above the norm. The time and intent must of been enough for the letter of the law to do its job.
I have no idea why you would be defending this behavior. Joking or not, invading someones personal lives for your own jollies now comes with repercussions.
Unless you are laying the groundwork for your own stalking?
You're implying that what children say carries the same weight as what adults say.
Really? Come on, try again.
There's no assumption being made. Someone says that they would rape someone under plausible circumstances, that's what I was talking about.
are you calling the police to haul away Schmide? Why or why not?
Joking or not, invading someones personal lives for your own jollies now comes with repercussions.