What set of circumstances would be making a fake set of electors be acceptable?
What set of circumstances would be making a fake set of electors be acceptable?My opinion isn't based on the assumption of guilt. Right now we have half the story, I'll wait to hear the other half before declaring criminal intent.
Saw an interview with him on the Ari Melber show on MSNBC. He's completely delusional, and thinks that his legal opinions have legal merit.Former Trump campaign adviser acknowledges being part of 2020 'alternate electors' plot
Boris Epshteyn, an adviser for former President Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, acknowledged Friday that he was part of the effort to prop up so-called "alternate electors" to support Trump in key states.www.cnn.com
"Boris Epshteyn, an adviser for former President Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, acknowledged Friday that he was part of the effort to prop up so-called "alternate electors" to support Trump in key states."
Epshteyn is a lawyer who was supoened last week and who insisted that the electors were "alternate" and not "fraudulent electors."
We'll see.
Getting repeatedly stabbed with a knife doest make it a murder weapon … cause you not dead yet… Will be dead in a minute, but ill reserve judgment till then.My opinion isn't based on the assumption of guilt. Right now we have half the story, I'll wait to hear the other half before declaring criminal intent.
When the evil democrats have stolen the election. DuhWhat set of circumstances would be making a fake set of electors be acceptable?
Keep surrendering; it's a good look.
Hopelessness is the new fashion.
JFC!When the evil democrats have stolen the election. Duh
FYI here in Michigan one of the many occupants of the clown car that is the GOP governor’s primary is running ads on billboards telling Joe Biden there won’t be another stolen election if he is elected governor.
I mean even when democrats swept the entire federal government you were sitting there predicting doom. You have one setting - imminent doom.Then tell me why, despite everything done by Trump and the GOP in the past 6 years, the voters are poised to overwhelmingly reward them these midterms?
Again, nothing will change until we do.
You mean like gerrymandering and voter suppression tactics? Easy to win when you cheat.Then tell me why, despite everything done by Trump and the GOP in the past 6 years, the voters are poised to overwhelmingly reward them these midterms?
Again, nothing will change until we do.
The fact that you *always* give these shitheads the benefit of the doubt at this point is why so many people have such a hard time taking you seriously.My opinion isn't based on the assumption of guilt. Right now we have half the story, I'll wait to hear the other half before declaring criminal intent.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Has no meaning to trumptards. They just willingly keep getting fooled.The fact that you *always* give these shitheads the benefit of the doubt at this point is why so many people have such a hard time taking you seriously.
They enjoy dropping the soap and bending over to pick it upFool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Has no meaning to trumptards. They just willingly keep getting fooled.
The fact that you *always* give these shitheads the benefit of the doubt at this point is why so many people have such a hard time taking you seriously.
You mean like gerrymandering and voter suppression tactics? Easy to win when you cheat.
That is what the GOP slogan is "Can't beat em, cheat em"
All histories matter!He's "starting" to sound like that Repub. state legislator that said schools should teach "both sides" of being a Nazi.
I guess that can be of some comfort to us when we are hauled off to re-education camps soon.
Wanna be roommates?
Really the biggest thing fucking it all up is not allowing the house to grew with population. If we has the proper number of reps, the EC issues would be much less pronounced. EC should die either way, though.Two things have bastardized there already flawed EC: the adoption of “winner take all” allotment of the EC votes in 48 states and the various “faithless elector” laws that legally limit the ability of electors to act as a check on the election.
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I don't jump on band wagons. As often as not the final story is a lot different than the first run through.The fact that you *always* give these shitheads the benefit of the doubt at this point is why so many people have such a hard time taking you seriously.
Officials operating within Nazi Germany were operating within the limits of the law as well. Lawful Neutral is a terrible alignment if you want people to take you seriously.I don't jump on band wagons. As often as not the final story is a lot different than the first run through.
Somehow you know that these shitheads have committed sedition, fraud, forgery, and certainly a host of other crimes. They might have. But I've only heard one of them respond, and he claimed they operated on the advice of legal counsel. I also haven't heard of an indictment or an arrest, which seems odd in the face what is presented as overwhelming evidence. Right now my conclusion is that there is a piece of the story missing, that opinion might change. If they did indeed forge documents to try and sway the election results they will need to be jailed. If they were operating within the limits of the law then they'll walk away free, and everyone who decided their guilt will scream about back door deals and protection.
This ain't my first rodeo.
I don't jump on band wagons. As often as not the final story is a lot different than the first run through.
Somehow you know that these shitheads have committed sedition, fraud, forgery, and certainly a host of other crimes. They might have. But I've only heard one of them respond, and he claimed they operated on the advice of legal counsel. I also haven't heard of an indictment or an arrest, which seems odd in the face what is presented as overwhelming evidence. Right now my conclusion is that there is a piece of the story missing, that opinion might change. If they did indeed forge documents to try and sway the election results they will need to be jailed. If they were operating within the limits of the law then they'll walk away free, and everyone who decided their guilt will scream about back door deals and protection.
This ain't my first rodeo.
JFC!
I mean the movie "Idiocracy" seems so prophetic now.
I don't think the claim was a crime, but it was unsubstantiated.Do you hold the same view for the lack of overwhelmingly evidence of the stolen election claims?
Apples. I am talking the deprogramming that took place after the war. Put the Orange menace in jail, break all those anti democracy media institutions in half, and root out corrupt congress, reestablish the sc, outlaw the oathkeepers and proudboys.Er, by deprogram you know that involved literally killing millions of Nazis, obliterating most of the country, marching the average German citizens through concentration camps to see the results of their industrialized murder machine, and then them having to face down the Red Army raping and pillaging and then ending up in a police state for 4 decades after, right? So simple!
Were it not for the circumstances that led to their defeat, its entirely possible that the Nazis wouldn't have been so "easily" deprogrammed.
Couple that with the Civil War, and I hope you realize what it would take to deprogram these psychopaths. Either letting them satiate their bloodlust and giving them all the power, or beating that bloodlust out of them and curb stomping them while they're down. The USA actually did beat the bloodlust out of them in the Civil War but then we didn't curb stomp the Confederacy post Civil War, and we've been dealing with the ramifications of that ever since, with it boiling over every few decades because we won't deal with it in any meaningful enough way, letting it continue to fester.
So what's the point here? That there is some higher law that has to be followed? Or that public opinion should be the standard for evidence? As long as "everyone knows" that's good enough to convict?Officials operating within Nazi Germany were operating within the limits of the law as well. Lawful Neutral is a terrible alignment if you want people to take you seriously.