Trump Goes Full Retard

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DaveSimmons

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But.....but....but didn't you Dems chastise the Donald for making fun of the handicapped? But it is ok for you to call the Donald a retard? Hypocrisy... much?

Watch Tropic Thunder, it's pretty good. It's also the source of this meme.
 

cytg111

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Mar 17, 2008
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But.....but....but didn't you Dems chastise the Donald for making fun of the handicapped? But it is ok for you to call the Donald a retard? Hypocrisy... much?

I know its hard to come down from a tree climbed so high, yet it is one of mankinds finest features, the ability to descend. Admit when we are wrong. Noone will mock an ex-trumpster quite opposite, it is never to late to come to ones senses.
 

ivwshane

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Speaking of going full retard, did anyone see trumps speech where he was talking about Obama and said he wondered why no women have come out to say Obama groped them? He then said anyone could come forward and make that accusation and that Obama better watch out because some woman, any woman, could come forward and make the same type of accusations women are making about trump. He was basically signaling to his base that someone should lie about being sexually assaulted by Obama.

This is what a melt down looks like folks! This is what some posters on this board look like and its exactly how they act when they go in melt down mode. Lol
 

Jhhnn

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Speaking of going full retard, did anyone see trumps speech where he was talking about Obama and said he wondered why no women have come out to say Obama groped them? He then said anyone could come forward and make that accusation and that Obama better watch out because some woman, any woman, could come forward and make the same type of accusations women are making about trump. He was basically signaling to his base that someone should lie about being sexually assaulted by Obama.

This is what a melt down looks like folks! This is what some posters on this board look like and its exactly how they act when they go in melt down mode. Lol

Well, he called on the Russians to give him more hacked emails & they delivered, so it could happen... in Trumpsters' dreams.
 

trenchfoot

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When this is all over come Nov. 9th, even in defeat Trump will still be Trump the Beguiler, the Salesman Of The Century, the Ayatollah of Krapola, the Prince of Poop, the Duke of Dino-Doodie-Doo's.

But until then the guy will be up to his 'ol self, and I really do hope he'll find a way to make this race to the top a whole lot more competitive, more meaningful. As it is though, it's pretty much ground down to a game of who can sling a heavier load of accusatory mud at each other.

I'm just wondering how Trump can keep topping his increasingly outrageous behavior in order to keep his horde of wingnut re-branded, re-purposed Tea Tards in his corner.

I hope he doesn't dissapoint, seeing as if the louder he screeches, the further he falls behind.
 

Moonbeam

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Well played sir, well played.
Inevitably played, I would say. The only way a liberal brain could conceive of believing the utter rubbish conservatives swallow with ease is if his or her brain were defectively stupid or intentionally evil. Now if the altered reality conservatives inhabit were simply ignorantly stupid nobody would really care, but since conservatives bundle up in such La La Land bubbles and try to impose their delusional fictions on the rest of the human race, you have liberal scorn to add to the mix Demented people are dangerous and threatening and invite attack from those who don't understand their disease. People have a right to self defense against the antics of the insane. A look at conservative crimes makes being called idiots rather tame, wouldn't you think, if you could?
 
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cytg111

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But he is not saying anything? Really? Besides, i am great, teleprompter, i am great, she is not great, she is so bad.
Wtf?
 

agent00f

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But he is not saying anything? Really? Besides, i am great, teleprompter, i am great, she is not great, she is so bad.
Wtf?

To extrapolate on Moonbeam's point, also consider what the seminal Dunning/Kruger study really tells us. Look at the data more carefully and it's not just that dummies consider themselves slightly above average, but also that their counterparts do, too. Or put another way, the human mind/condition has a way of projecting our own abilities/competencies onto everyone else, ie they are just like us but maybe bit worse.

Now compare that to a reality where competence & such vary greatly. For example, chess uses a Elo rating system which ranges from ~0 to near 3k, where overcoming a 200 difference would be an major upset, and this sort of system is successfully implemented wherever measurable competition exist. Thus there's little reason to believe human skills in general (compositing into mental or physical ability) also don't divide into many very distinguishable levels. Yet for some reason our natural inclination here is rather egalitarian. We can theorize why that is (probably social), but for now empirical observation of the cognitive disconnect is evident enough.

The greater perspective given this context is that in this situation the Donald is speaking to dummies, which is why he uses dummy semantics & structure, in a sense talking down to people but in a way that makes them look/feel good instead of obviously patronizing. If you're not a dummy, ie you're a >1000 level chess player, you won't naturally understand why someone like that is making the moves they do, if you consider their game as you typically/instinctively would your own. You might think how can Trump possibly moves that dumb & nonsensical, but recall how a hustle works where the conman sets up the mark(s). In this case instead of some betting money he aims for their votes.
 

MongGrel

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D/K has been well known for a long time now in general.

You probably are not educating anyone here for the most part, although you seem to imagine you are above a lot of posters and somehow passing out mind breaking insights.

Perhaps you should look in the mirror a bit.
 
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agent00f

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D/K has been well known for a long time now in general.

You probably are not educating anyone here, although it seems to be your purpose in your head.

If someone hasn't read the paper yet express this self-confidence, they might well be well described by its contents.
 

MongGrel

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If someone hasn't read the paper yet express this self-confidence, they might well be well described by its contents.

I do not know if you are referring to me, and really do not care a lot.

D/K has been common knowledge for a very long time now.

Like I stated, look in the mirror.

The vast majority of your posts are not overly clever, whether you believe them to be or not.
 

agent00f

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I do not know if you are referring to me, and really do not care a lot.

D/K has been common knowledge for a very long time now.

Like I stated, look in the mirror.

The vast majority of your posts are not overly clever, whether you believe them to be or not.

If only they had wisdom of the common man, any need for their education & research would've been superfluous.
 

MongGrel

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If only they had wisdom of the common man, any need for their education & research would've been superfluous.

You still seem to be really missing the point.

But you seem to deem yourself clever and it just goes right over your head.
 

cytg111

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To extrapolate on Moonbeam's point, also consider what the seminal Dunning/Kruger study really tells us. Look at the data more carefully and it's not just that dummies consider themselves slightly above average, but also that their counterparts do, too. Or put another way, the human mind/condition has a way of projecting our own abilities/competencies onto everyone else, ie they are just like us but maybe bit worse.

Now compare that to a reality where competence & such vary greatly. For example, chess uses a Elo rating system which ranges from ~0 to near 3k, where overcoming a 200 difference would be an major upset, and this sort of system is successfully implemented wherever measurable competition exist. Thus there's little reason to believe human skills in general (compositing into mental or physical ability) also don't divide into many very distinguishable levels. Yet for some reason our natural inclination here is rather egalitarian. We can theorize why that is (probably social), but for now empirical observation of the cognitive disconnect is evident enough.

The greater perspective given this context is that in this situation the Donald is speaking to dummies, which is why he uses dummy semantics & structure, in a sense talking down to people but in a way that makes them look/feel good instead of obviously patronizing. If you're not a dummy, ie you're a >1000 level chess player, you won't naturally understand why someone like that is making the moves they do, if you consider their game as you typically/instinctively would your own. You might think how can Trump possibly moves that dumb & nonsensical, but recall how a hustle works where the conman sets up the mark(s). In this case instead of some betting money he aims for their votes.

Ok, like in poker then: If you cant spot the sucker, the sucker is you. - Sort of.
I always play this mental game when I meet a new type of character, I try to envision what my life should have been like to become them. That produces some scary thoughts when you consider a nazi, a pedo a terrorist. Point being as we are all about the same 99.999% DNA those cruel characters could have been me(or you) given another set of paramaters for envoriment growing up. There is limits to this exercise though, it can be hard to visualize a broken mind (psychopath, a severe disorders). I have no tools adopt a Trump mind. I just dont. It must be 99% emotion based and the feeling of getting gud again (sorry, great again).. and a limited access to media which means that certain actors can propel very one sided propaganda to a specific demographic for very extended periods of time. But I cant find the demo anywhere.. So I am at a loss to explain this. A disconnected people. Wow.
 
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Puffnstuff

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See what happens at this one, it is live at the moment.

He just called up "The Women for Trump"

HUGE !! DONALD TRUMP RALLY!! ★ CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA !! ★ (WOW !!) ★ #MAGA #trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QbB8kbcP7I

I'm already face palming.
Watching the religious minions rally around this guy makes me sick. Just how much evidence does it take to wake a person up? He's talking out of both sides of his mouth and they blindly go along with it. If he'd grope one of the ladies in the church or made lewd comments in Sunday school they'd be up in arms but instead they choose to support this open example of everything they are supposed to oppose.
 

agent00f

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Ok, like in poker then: If you cant spot the sucker, the sucker is you. - Sort of.
I always play this mental game when I meet a new type of character, I try to envision what my life should have been like to become them. That produces some scary thoughts when you consider a nazi, a pedo a terrorist. Point being as we are all about the same 99.999% DNA those cruel characters could have been me(or you) given another set of paramaters for envoriment growing up. There is limits to this exercise though, it can be hard to visualize a broken mind (psychopath, a severe disorders). I have no tools adopt a Trump mind. I just dont. It must be 99% emotion based and the feeling of getting gud again (sorry, great again).. and a limited access to media which means that certain actors can propel very one sided propaganda to a specific demographics for very extended periods of time. But I cant find the demo anywhere.. So I am at a loss to explain this. A disconnected people. Wow.

There's two very different characters here, trump and his audience.

Trump is a spoiled brat who never grew up, who honed through a lifetime of pitiful scams and his reality show a notable talent for manipulating minds stuck in molasses. Even those of us who aren't acquainted with exactly such a person have surely known of separate individuals with portions of that personality, esp. back in school before we had the freedom to choose different paths in life.

Trump's audience are possessors of the said conservative "old ways are best" brain, which I think most have at least met here and there. Though such a mindset acts as natural defense against nouveau whimsy, it becomes a liability in modern times where reality has typically done parted ways with tradition. This is a key point, since ostensibly in a more idyllic time it would've been liberals whose ideals about progress would've been fanciful. So these people are mentally still living in a past that's no longer the case, when they had social status by birthright---some combination of white, male, american, middle class, etc.

To connect these two, the approach of the con artist in this situation is simply promise a return to that world, back away from modernity, where the audience won't have to be considered equals of the opposing foreigny ethnic types under the patronage of liberal elites. Notice what they most instinctively fear is that very archetype. It also helps that trump's projected image is the perfect embodiment of what they aspire to: rich old paternal merican rather proud of himself. They will gladly cast away jesus or whatever other flimsy rationalizations for what's really important here.

Viewed in this context, his well-aimed speeches and the reaction they garner from the audience make perfect sense.
 
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Perknose

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There's two very different characters here, trump and his audience.

Trump is a spoiled brat who never grew up, who honed through a lifetime of pitiful scams and his reality show a notable talent for manipulating minds stuck in molasses. Even those of us who aren't acquainted with exactly such a person have surely known of separate individuals with portions of that personality, esp. back in school before we had the freedom to choose different paths in life.

Trump's audience are possessors of the said conservative "old ways are best" brain, which I think most have at least met here and there. Though such a mindset acts as natural defense against nouveau whimsy, it becomes a liability in modern times where reality has typically done parted ways with tradition. This is a key point, since ostensibly in a more idyllic time it would've been liberals whose ideals about progress would've been fanciful. So these people are mentally still living in a past that's no longer the case, when they had social status by birthright---some combination of white, male, american, middle class, etc.

To connect these two, the approach of the con artist in this situation is simply promise a return to that world, back away from modernity, where the audience won't have to be considered equals of the opposing foreigny ethnic types under the patronage of liberal elites. Notice what they most instinctively fear is that very archetype. It also helps that trump's projected image is the perfect embodiment of what they aspire to: rich old paternal merican rather proud of himself. They will gladly cast away jesus or whatever other flimsy rationalizations for what's really important here.

Viewed in this context, his well-aimed speeches and the reaction they garner from the audience make perfect sense.

There are posters here, not at all unintelligent folks on the somewhat deplorable human awareness continuum, who, while never seeing any of the above in themselves, nevertheless do have embody at least part of it, to my mind.

I say this because, for the life of me, I can't otherwise explain the tenor of their posts during this true existential crisis* of Demagogic Know Nothing Yahooism Arisen that makes Nixon look like a man of rock solid integrity and Reagan like an intellectual instead of the superficial amiable boob that he was.




*Look, the Republic would likely survive a Trump presidency, but saying this is reason enough not to oppose him with everything you have, not to stand up and reject this ignoramus of a snake oil salesman is like saying, "Hey, I'll choose the maggot infested slab of horse meat on the menu because the strychnine it's laced with is simply not enough to kill me . . . probably. Besides, I just can't stand the tofu. Fox news says it secretly contains Bengazi."
 
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skyking

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Honestly, I do not think he's gone full on yet, shit has just been flowing out of him so much, it's hard to keep up.
I think he is bleeding as he likes to describe:
"And you know, you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever, "
 

ivwshane

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The onion doesn't even try anymore. its gotten so crazy you can't make up shit anymore.


You know what would be hilarious? If the onion did a trump article that was actually true. Not before an act happens but after. They have a ton to choose from and all would be hilarious if it wasn't for the fact that none are made up.
 

Muse

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He is indeed, and he's been a disaster for the GOP, but they've mostly been shooting themselves in the foot for the last decade plus, so that's nothing new. Still, as was the case in the late 1990s, I suspect a Clinton will provide a rallying point for the GOP to save it from itself. Hilary will win in Nov. and while Trump will fade away, Hilary's huge unfavorability ratings (even within her own party) will not, and might likely be worse in 2020 when she's failed to deliver all the sunshine and roses she promises. Assuming the GOP can manage to nominate a sensible candidate in 2020 (and there's no certainty they will), Clinton will have a tough campaign for re-election.
Yes, and this will happen regardless of what she does or says or accomplishes. The GOP did this with Obama, they demonized him, accused him, railed against him, fought him at every turn, plotted from the beginning how to deny him a 2nd term. I expect no less from them regarding the HRC administration. Nothing else is possible, nothing. Well, anything's possible, but I don't expect anything else.

The wonder to me is how the GOP hold majorities in the senate and house considering what they have done, what they represent. TBH, I don't understand how they've managed to demonize the term liberal and canonize the word conservative.

Maybe they hold the legislative branch largely by virtue of gerrymandering. If they lose that advantage they may find themselves indeed marginalized for a long long time.
 
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