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Lifer
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Kind of reassuring that the concensus seems to be that it was (in the worlds of Hilary Clinton) a "low energy" dear-leader parade. Seems the US isn't happy to join the tinpot despot league yet after all.

I mean, Putin can mock, but this damp squib of a parade has caused my opinion of the US to go up a notch.
 
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trenchfoot

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@trenchfoot, I largely agree with you but I would have thought there would be enough Trump worshippers in the military (the last poll I saw suggested that about two thirds of them are Trump supporters) to march their little hearts out for their idol.

I'm thinking from the human nature side of things even the most loyal of Trump's troops really don't like getting their daily rhythm and routines disrupted, especially on a regular day off from work. That's family time, Church day, getting soaked in brewskies, fishing time and wrenching on their beloved cars/trucks time. Well, jus' say'in I'd be personally pissed to have that one day off taken from me by some jerkoff draft dodger, even if by the contract I signed my life away on I'm supposedly on duty 24/7/365. My attitude for the day wouldn't be shall we say, very cooperative. Now say if it was family day back at the unit my spirits would be much more positive.
 

mikeymikec

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I'm thinking from the human nature side of things even the most loyal of Trump's troops really don't like getting their daily rhythm and routines disrupted, especially on a regular day off from work. That's family time, Church day, getting soaked in brewskies, fishing time and wrenching on their beloved cars/trucks time. Well, jus' say'in I'd be personally pissed to have that one day off taken from me by some jerkoff draft dodger, even if by the contract I signed my life away on I'm supposedly on duty 24/7/365. My attitude for the day wouldn't be shall we say, very cooperative. Now say if it was family day back at the unit my spirits would be much more positive.

Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.
 
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uallas5

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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

The announcer's voice was cloyingly annoying, but I did pick up on a some things he said. He mentioned a "diversity" quite a few times when talking about different units and how they represented the "diverse" people of the US. Another thing was when talking about the history of the 101st Airborne he only said a few things and ended with how they were tasked with protecting Civil Rights protestors in Little Rock. I'm guessing Stephen Miller didn't review what was being said.

As far the cost, $25-45M was just the Army's cost, that's it. It did NOT include police, FBI, Secret Service, et al, barricades, spectator stands, fireworks, closure of airports, etc. I also don't think it was a full estimate of the road and bridge repairs.
 

HomerJS

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Watched several videos, looks like a great parade. Wish I could have been there to see it in person.
Based on the attendance great is the LAST descriptor I would use. Loser central so of course you would approve.

BTW - I don't ever want to hear you yap about wasteful government spending.

I was at an ACTUAL great event. Clearly you don't know the difference. Clear TDS
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

The announcer's voice was cloyingly annoying, but I did pick up on a some things he said. He mentioned a "diversity" quite a few times when talking about different units and how they represented the "diverse" people of the US. Another thing was when talking about the history of the 101st Airborne he only said a few things and ended with how they were tasked with protecting Civil Rights protestors in Little Rock. I'm guessing Stephen Miller didn't review what was being said.

As far the cost, $25-45M was just the Army's cost, that's it. It did NOT include police, FBI, Secret Service, et al, barricades, spectator stands, fireworks, closure of airports, etc. I also don't think it was a full estimate of the road and bridge repairs.
Was that a Fox host? I thought they are against diversity esp all those incompetent brown people.
 

K1052

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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

Getting your weekend taken up to sleep in a warehouse, eat MREs, and march for a draft dodger's birthday through the dank armpit that was the DC weather wasn't a great generator of enthusiasm? Shocking lol.
 
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MtnMan

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It's a lot easier than pretending an event is something it's not so you have an excuse to be outraged. The only person your fooling is yourself, why bother?
It was the army's birthday long before it was Trumps. I know that because I learned subtraction 60 odd years back and it still works the same today.
Yes, you could see the pride in the soldiers as they sauntered down the street out of step, some out of uniform (sunglasses, white T-shirt showing, etc.). That is how proud they were to be forced to be in a parade for a fucking draft dodger that calls them suckers and losers.
 
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MtnMan

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trenchfoot

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Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.

Well said.
 

manly

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Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.
I'm assuming most of those soldiers were just doing their job, respecting the chain of command, and following orders. Is it documented anywhere that they all volunteered for parade duty, as MAGA warriors?

I also disagree with the notion that most MAGA aren't "proud" of it; the defining feature of Trump and Trumpism is that they get to say the quiet shit out loud. And NEVER having to apologize for the bigotry or racism. If the parade was in Greenman's town instead of D.C., would he have been there? I would imagine Yes. He lives in a staunchly conservative part of the country, and he's not bashful about it online.

I only saw a bit of it, but by most accounts here, it was a weak show. Even the proudest MAGAt has little to crow about, as Donny was falling asleep as if he was on trial in a courtroom. Seeing Hegseth's and Melania's vapid expressions, sitting next to Trump, is hilarious and fitting.
 

uallas5

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Was that a Fox host? I thought they are against diversity esp all those incompetent brown people.
No it was the announcer at the event.

I watched it on C-Span, the only time they talked was on split screen when a news host who would occasionally ask questions to 2 senior Army personnel, a Lt. Gen and a MSGT.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Once again, I'm tempted to order magnetic bumper stickers, like "Your President is a Fucking Criminal, Asshole!"

Gott get my blood-pressure down . . . .
 
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