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Lifer
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Kind of reassuring that the concensus seems to be that it was (in the worlds of Hilary Clinton) a "low energy" dear-leader parade. Seems the US isn't happy to join the tinpot despot league yet after all.

I mean, Putin can mock, but this damp squib of a parade has caused my opinion of the US to go up a notch.
 
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trenchfoot

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@trenchfoot, I largely agree with you but I would have thought there would be enough Trump worshippers in the military (the last poll I saw suggested that about two thirds of them are Trump supporters) to march their little hearts out for their idol.

I'm thinking from the human nature side of things even the most loyal of Trump's troops really don't like getting their daily rhythm and routines disrupted, especially on a regular day off from work. That's family time, Church day, getting soaked in brewskies, fishing time and wrenching on their beloved cars/trucks time. Well, jus' say'in I'd be personally pissed to have that one day off taken from me by some jerkoff draft dodger, even if by the contract I signed my life away on I'm supposedly on duty 24/7/365. My attitude for the day wouldn't be shall we say, very cooperative. Now say if it was family day back at the unit my spirits would be much more positive.
 

mikeymikec

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I'm thinking from the human nature side of things even the most loyal of Trump's troops really don't like getting their daily rhythm and routines disrupted, especially on a regular day off from work. That's family time, Church day, getting soaked in brewskies, fishing time and wrenching on their beloved cars/trucks time. Well, jus' say'in I'd be personally pissed to have that one day off taken from me by some jerkoff draft dodger, even if by the contract I signed my life away on I'm supposedly on duty 24/7/365. My attitude for the day wouldn't be shall we say, very cooperative. Now say if it was family day back at the unit my spirits would be much more positive.

Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.
 
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uallas5

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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

The announcer's voice was cloyingly annoying, but I did pick up on a some things he said. He mentioned a "diversity" quite a few times when talking about different units and how they represented the "diverse" people of the US. Another thing was when talking about the history of the 101st Airborne he only said a few things and ended with how they were tasked with protecting Civil Rights protestors in Little Rock. I'm guessing Stephen Miller didn't review what was being said.

As far the cost, $25-45M was just the Army's cost, that's it. It did NOT include police, FBI, Secret Service, et al, barricades, spectator stands, fireworks, closure of airports, etc. I also don't think it was a full estimate of the road and bridge repairs.
 

HomerJS

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Watched several videos, looks like a great parade. Wish I could have been there to see it in person.
Based on the attendance great is the LAST descriptor I would use. Loser central so of course you would approve.

BTW - I don't ever want to hear you yap about wasteful government spending.

I was at an ACTUAL great event. Clearly you don't know the difference. Clear TDS
 
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HomerJS

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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

The announcer's voice was cloyingly annoying, but I did pick up on a some things he said. He mentioned a "diversity" quite a few times when talking about different units and how they represented the "diverse" people of the US. Another thing was when talking about the history of the 101st Airborne he only said a few things and ended with how they were tasked with protecting Civil Rights protestors in Little Rock. I'm guessing Stephen Miller didn't review what was being said.

As far the cost, $25-45M was just the Army's cost, that's it. It did NOT include police, FBI, Secret Service, et al, barricades, spectator stands, fireworks, closure of airports, etc. I also don't think it was a full estimate of the road and bridge repairs.
Was that a Fox host? I thought they are against diversity esp all those incompetent brown people.
 

K1052

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I watched a chunk of it (mostly to see equipment), and I was also amazed on the lack of even the slightest precision to the marching. Most of those soldiers looked like they were at the end of a 20-mile hump.

Getting your weekend taken up to sleep in a warehouse, eat MREs, and march for a draft dodger's birthday through the dank armpit that was the DC weather wasn't a great generator of enthusiasm? Shocking lol.
 
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MtnMan

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It's a lot easier than pretending an event is something it's not so you have an excuse to be outraged. The only person your fooling is yourself, why bother?
It was the army's birthday long before it was Trumps. I know that because I learned subtraction 60 odd years back and it still works the same today.
Yes, you could see the pride in the soldiers as they sauntered down the street out of step, some out of uniform (sunglasses, white T-shirt showing, etc.). That is how proud they were to be forced to be in a parade for a fucking draft dodger that calls them suckers and losers.
 
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MtnMan

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trenchfoot

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Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.

Well said.
 

manly

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Perhaps.

A slightly different angle from my comments in the OP is to look at it as a "Trump Pride Parade". Pride parades are something that one largely does from a POV of love, and while there are Nazi Pride Parades too, I think in either case one has to be sufficiently 'out of the closet' for either event (respective closets, obv).

Take Greenman for example. Trump supporter? Absolutely. Willing to stand out in front of a crowd and basically shout, "I'M BIGOTED AND I'M PROUD!", no. He would have loved to have been there, sure, but not so much as to actually show up let alone be in such a parade.

There are enough Nazis around to be concerned about, but not nearly so many wanting to be out of the closet with it. For example, ICE agents with masks.

Maybe all of those who were "marching" in that parade were die-hard Trump supporters, but with that level of awkwardness that doesn't come from pride but something weaker (though with more resolve than those who didn't even show up), e.g. peer group pressure / feelings of obligation.
I'm assuming most of those soldiers were just doing their job, respecting the chain of command, and following orders. Is it documented anywhere that they all volunteered for parade duty, as MAGA warriors?

I also disagree with the notion that most MAGA aren't "proud" of it; the defining feature of Trump and Trumpism is that they get to say the quiet shit out loud. And NEVER having to apologize for the bigotry or racism. If the parade was in Greenman's town instead of D.C., would he have been there? I would imagine Yes. He lives in a staunchly conservative part of the country, and he's not bashful about it online.

I only saw a bit of it, but by most accounts here, it was a weak show. Even the proudest MAGAt has little to crow about, as Donny was falling asleep as if he was on trial in a courtroom. Seeing Hegseth's and Melania's vapid expressions, sitting next to Trump, is hilarious and fitting.
 

uallas5

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Was that a Fox host? I thought they are against diversity esp all those incompetent brown people.
No it was the announcer at the event.

I watched it on C-Span, the only time they talked was on split screen when a news host who would occasionally ask questions to 2 senior Army personnel, a Lt. Gen and a MSGT.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Once again, I'm tempted to order magnetic bumper stickers, like "Your President is a Fucking Criminal, Asshole!"

Gott get my blood-pressure down . . . .
 

trenchfoot

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This has got to be the funniest thing from the weekend. Fox News added fake applause and cheering to the coverage. Thank God for PBS

Canned cheering for sure, as fake as the guy it was meant to upgrade into stardom. There's echo and reverb present in the sound staging as it would in a closed concert hall whereas you wouldn't hear that outside in the open air where there's nothing much for sound waves to bounce off of. As it was, there were a lot of trees that actually absorbed sound waves rather than reflecting it. It's especially obvious when listening to the audio in a flat 7 channel sound system or even a 5 ch. one. Faux, the one station you can rely on for comforting right winged hoax entertainment.
 
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BoomerD

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Bottom line here is Trump wanted that parade. It wasn't the top brass over at the Pentagon that wanted it. It wasn't the enlisted lifers that demanded they be ceremonially acknowledged. The culture of our military isn't anything like the culture of the Trump MAGA sect. Our military from every unit in every branch of service have a sense of quiet pride that speaks for itself. They don't need to demand to be put on a pedestal and worshipped like their CIC does.

So if there's any argument at all about who instigated this notion about wanting a parade, well it seems to me the troops that were pounding pavement seemed embarrassed and uncomfortable to be taken out of character and paraded down a street without having to been asked if that's what they were keen on doing. When I viewed our military members passing the stands it was quite evident those troop's hearts and minds weren't into being marched in front of Trump. Their faces and their body language said it all. As well, it was all so very evident that not much preparation went into the logistics of pulling that charade of a parade off. I've seen my share of parades and I've been in them myself. The spirit, the pride of being in the world's most powerful force for peace simply wasn't there. It was more like "Awww man, do we really have to?"
Malicious compliance. "You can force us to do it...you can't force us to do it well."
 
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