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you do not have the answers no matter how much you believe in whatever you believe in.
Nope, I don't have all the answers, just one.. and that one is that I don't need to understand to because I can't.
As such I must go by what is good in life, and Salvation in God is good.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
you do not have the answers no matter how much you believe in whatever you believe in.
Nope, I don't have all the answers, just one.. and that one is that I don't need to understand to because I can't.
As such I must go by what is good in life, and Salvation in God is good.

just as an aside, what do you think about people who don't believe in god (and thus don't do all this salvation stuff) but believe in being good people?
 
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oo *infinity for this*

1=1

1^x=1
x^(1/oo)=1

whare x=oo

1^oo=oo^(1/oo)
1^oo^oo=oo

thus 1=oo

all is one, one is all, alpha and omega.... this is flawed of course.. but if zero where real nothing would exist.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Hmmm.... it's 9:30, I don't have to work and I am strangely sober, somthing's wrong.

Indeed... you sick?

No, remembered I have $2 until Wednesday.

Top Ramen for breakfast?


Fortunately or unfortunately I pre-pay $220 a month for food I don't dare eat.

But desperate times call for desperate measures,or mooching off friends.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.


How many many Americans died/will die because of indiviuals who believed in a god... a god named allah?
 
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gopunk
just as an aside, what do you think about people who don't believe in god (and thus don't do all this salvation stuff) but believe in being good people?

I think that all good things come from God.

being a good person is a positive thing, but self righteousness stems from it.

salvation is not something that you do, just accept.

So one that reconizes that they are an imperfect being, and ask to be brought into being a good person, has asked for Salvation from God

All those that ask for forgiveness will have it granted, and none that live a good life have done so except thru Jesus? even if they are unknowing or deny this.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.


How many many Americans died/will die because of indiviuals who believed in a god... a god named allah?

I should have made it more clear but I'm talking about a Christian God. And please don't bring in the Christian Crusades, because I will stand by the thought that Christianity saves more lives than destroys.
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.


How many many Americans died/will die because of indiviuals who believed in a god... a god named allah?

I should have made it more clear but I'm talking about a Christian God. And please don't bring in the Christian Crusades, because I will stand by the thought that Christianity saves more lives than destroys.

Kind of like how PETA says eat grain instead of meat because it saves more animal lives than it destroys?

Speaking of grain... what is your favorite type of bread? This is a question for everybody. I like whole weat and sourdough.
 

Pastore

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And to LordMagnusKain, I would just like to applaud your level of knowledge of the Bible. Most Bible thumpers know just enough to start a flame war.

Also, the Bible teaches to witness, which means to spread the word of God, so anyone telling him to STFU can STFU themselves, because he is being faithful to his belief. And whether or not I agree with it, I applaud him for doing it. Shows that people still have purpose, far too many people walk around without any.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.


How many many Americans died/will die because of indiviuals who believed in a god... a god named allah?

I should have made it more clear but I'm talking about a Christian God. And please don't bring in the Christian Crusades, because I will stand by the thought that Christianity saves more lives than destroys.

Kind of like how PETA says eat grain instead of meat because it saves more animal lives than it destroys?

Speaking of grain... what is your favorite type of bread? This is a question for everybody. I like whole weat and sourdough.

Who cares about saving animals? I care about people dying. Animals die for a purpose, people on the other hand, I don't think do.
 

gopunk

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That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.

i don't really care whether or not he is religious... that's his own thing.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
and to LordMagnusKain, I would just like to applaud your level of knowledge of the Bible. Most Bible thumpers know just enough to start a flame war.

Also, the Bible teaches to witness, which means to spread the word of God, so anyone telling him to STFU and STFU themselves, because he is being faithful to his belief. And whether or not I agree with it, I applaud him for doing it. Shows that people still have purpose, far too many people walk around without any.

They were telling him to STFU for being arrogant, not for being a witness.

And you still haven't answered my question: What is your favorite kind of bread?
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
And to LordMagnusKain, I would just like to applaud your level of knowledge of the Bible. Most Bible thumpers know just enough to start a flame war.

Also, the Bible teaches to witness, which means to spread the word of God, so anyone telling him to STFU can STFU themselves, because he is being faithful to his belief. And whether or not I agree with it, I applaud him for doing it. Shows that people still have purpose, far too many people walk around without any.

peta protestors have a purpose too, do you applaud them?
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
anti-people-talking-about-their-opinion-as-if-it-were-truth

The truth is that I?ve seen God work many ways to save those whom had no hope, and to help those who where doing OK anyway.. God moves in you, and you do what's right, this is fact, how you dismiss it is your ideology, but the fact of the matter is just that.

and you wonder why people have a problem with you? you just did it again, stating your opinion as if it were fact.

That is the fundemental problem with religion. If you truly believe in it, everyone else is fvcked. But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people. Whether you agree with it or not, religion can keep people out of trouble.


How many many Americans died/will die because of indiviuals who believed in a god... a god named allah?

I should have made it more clear but I'm talking about a Christian God. And please don't bring in the Christian Crusades, because I will stand by the thought that Christianity saves more lives than destroys.

Kind of like how PETA says eat grain instead of meat because it saves more animal lives than it destroys?

Speaking of grain... what is your favorite type of bread? This is a question for everybody. I like whole weat and sourdough.

Who cares about saving animals? I care about people dying. Animals die for a purpose, people on the other hand, I don't think do.

You missed the analogy.
 

Pastore

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Feb 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Beast1284
and to LordMagnusKain, I would just like to applaud your level of knowledge of the Bible. Most Bible thumpers know just enough to start a flame war.

Also, the Bible teaches to witness, which means to spread the word of God, so anyone telling him to STFU and STFU themselves, because he is being faithful to his belief. And whether or not I agree with it, I applaud him for doing it. Shows that people still have purpose, far too many people walk around without any.

They were telling him to STFU for being arrogant, not for being a witness.

And you still haven't answered my question: What is your favorite kind of bread?

Overall which I'd rather consume? Whole Wheat. Which tastes the best? White.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Beast1284
and to LordMagnusKain, I would just like to applaud your level of knowledge of the Bible. Most Bible thumpers know just enough to start a flame war.

Also, the Bible teaches to witness, which means to spread the word of God, so anyone telling him to STFU and STFU themselves, because he is being faithful to his belief. And whether or not I agree with it, I applaud him for doing it. Shows that people still have purpose, far too many people walk around without any.

They were telling him to STFU for being arrogant, not for being a witness.

And you still haven't answered my question: What is your favorite kind of bread?

Overall which I'd rather consume? Whole Wheat. Which tastes the best? White.

See, my parents switched me (and the whole family) over to whole weat exclusively when I was real young. Now I can't stand the taste of White. Which is probably a good thing
 
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Brutuskend
No one KNOW'S if there is a GOD.
I know that if goodness is a positive thing, then following after the goodness of God is a positive thing.
There is no logical proof of God or salvation, but the spiritual truth of God and Salvation is something that I KNOW.

But it's all mind control, and maybe if MagnusKain didn't have a God to believe in he'd be out killing innocent people

God is Goodness, if there was no goodness in this world then there would be no innocent people to kill. Truly there are no good people in the world, only those that strive to be good and those that do not.
If your mind is turned towards what is Good then your life will be good, if it is not then it will not.

The movement of God and the holey spirit are spiritual things that can not be denied when you experience them.
 
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