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Sketcher

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Sketcher:

It's just my job to say what I know, if God moves then it's out of my hands.. and if the other side moves, that to is out of my hands.

I have only to inspect myself to make sure I?m doing as best as I can in delivering the Good news as I know it.
*the thread wasn't closed, although some tried to crap on the thread, and I?ve gotten to say what needs be said as I was moved to say*
LordMagnusKain, you've done very well with your thoughts and expression of faith thus far. Thank you for being considerate and patient in expressing your passion for the good that is salvation through Jesus Christ.
 
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gopunk
I don't really have time to go through every word he uttered, but I?ll take your word that he never said anything "bad" (I?m assuming this would be something like "your mom's a whore" or something). that doesn't mean his opinion is necessarily right though.

**edit**no, I mean as in something that if followed will not just lead to the best life you can have, but the best life for all of those around you as well.**what i ment to say**


Something like ?when someone has wronged you, you should avenge yourself?; or even something more innocuous that would lead to a less than perfect life.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
gopunk
I don't really have time to go through every word he uttered, but I?ll take your word that he never said anything "bad" (I?m assuming this would be something like "your mom's a whore" or something). that doesn't mean his opinion is necessarily right though.

no, I mean as in something that if followed will not lead to the best life you can have, but the best life for all of those around you.

oh, okay... well i don't disagree that it would result in the best life for those people around us. that's a nice opinion of what "good" entails.
 

idNut

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These threads do nothing but get people angry. Believe what you want to believe but do it quietly so there is no conflict. We could knock each other constantly, denying each other that what we believe is true is false but what is accomplished other than anger? I could rant atheists all day and they could do the same with Christians but what it is is complete non-sense for nothing.

Christians have to realize that they're not Jesus Christ and quit trying to preach in people's faces for it will do more worse than good.

I used to never be this accepting of people but one day I realized, "What's the point of all this arguing?".
 

bigredguy

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I used to never be this accepting of people but one day I realized, "What's the point of all this arguing?".

Nothing, like i sad before.

Those who believe, never stop believing; but those who see never forget to feel what it was to be free.
 
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idNut
I?m not here to yell at you, just present what I?ve seen, and if you disagree with what I?ve seen that's fine present what you've seen that conflicts.


ffmcobalt
there has been no hateful or inflammatory statement made. just a suggestion that we seek after what is Good, and ask to be turned from what we do that is not...

Why would you want to lock such things out?
*sorry ffmcobalt, forgot to reference bigredguy*
bigredguy


personal fredom without the Lord is the freedom to be in error, to live a life that is not the most it could be, to make ourselves and those around us the worse off.

Only in turning your eyes to the lord can you no longer be a slave to the sins of your life. Salvation is acceptance of that freedom that God offers. Free in the lord or a slave to your sin, these are all the options that there are.
 

tantos

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I wished God or whatever higher being that you believe in come down and spite us all..we don't deserve to live on this planet..
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: tantos
I wished God or whatever higher being that you believe in come down and spite us all..we don't deserve to live on this planet..



Get Help.

<==== Backs away slowly without any sudden movements.
 
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tantos
dude.... God LOVES you, I doubt that they?ll be match smiting... well until the sun becomes a red-giant and the earth is destroyed in fire *or we start some stupid nuclear war*


we all know we're imperfect and in need of salvation. simply accepting salvation is all that is necessary to turn ones life into what is good.

Be well all.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
tantos
dude.... God LOVES you, I doubt that they?ll be match smiting... well until the sun becomes a red-giant and the earth is destroyed in fire *or we start some stupid nuclear war*


we all know we're imperfect and in need of salvation. simply accepting salvation is all that is necessary to turn ones life into what is good.

Be well all.

<Wesley Snipes voice>

"Be fvcked!"

</Wesley Snipes voice>
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
tantos
dude.... God LOVES you, I doubt that they?ll be match smiting... well until the sun becomes a red-giant and the earth is destroyed in fire *or we start some stupid nuclear war*


we all know we're imperfect and in need of salvation. simply accepting salvation is all that is necessary to turn ones life into what is good.

Be well all.

It depends on whose salvation you accept.

If you mean, do I accept the salvation of a Pagan god who requires some sort of self-debasing and self-devalument, acceptance of power that is obviously beyond my own feeble grasp, then no. I would die before I accepted that claptrap.

Do I acknowledge my imperfection to some other standard, of course. There is a God out there, but I doubt He holds us accountable for our inherent imperfection. There is a rhythm and order to life, to the universe - it is cold and unyielding, and yet, there is beauty to be found there. To say that we are free to act however we please - I would say, with certain restraints. To harm, to exterminate or to kill another, that, truly, is an abomination. Hitler and his men were acting against the will of the universe. One man who kills another, this, too, hurts the life that underlies our existence. War, war is perhaps the most painful of them all. Deemed necessary for further preservation, and to end current suffering, maybe, but still painful.

You ask me, where do I find God?

I find Him whenever I look at a sapling taking root in the wet earth; I see His face in every starlit sky. I feel His love every time I look into the face of a newborn baby. There is ugliness, pain and perversion everywhere on this barren rock we call Earth; however, beauty still persists, refuses to be held down. Throughout all pain and destruction, flowers still grow in scorched earth, babies are born in ruined homes; life is created from death.

All things end on this earth, that is the cycle of life, of our universe. The beauty of the soul, however, is immortal; that, my friend, will never die.
 

Rainsford

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Why do I personally not accept what you are saying? Because of the very title of your thread. "Truth". I do not want to have some comfortable belief set that allows me to think that everything is great and will work out in the end because of some higher power. I wish that were so, and maybe it is true, but I am looking for truth, not answers. Religion is not truth, it is an answer. Maybe it is even the right one, but in our quest for the truth (if that is indeed what we are after), we cannot be suckered into a belief simply because we like it. In doing so we start down the dark road where we will believe anything if it makes us feel better.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: compudog
Oh man! This is not the place for this rhetoric. LordMagnusKane go away.

No, he can stay. But, you're right. This isn't the place for the repeatedly repeated Christian Vs. Atheism debates.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Dude, I was joking. Dog and rat meat is supposedly quite good, and many orientals, including Koreans and Vietnamese, eat them.

I would rather pet one and feed the other to my cat.
 

skace

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I was gonna do a whole "oh jesus, I can walk!" deal. But after reading page 5, I can honestly say I don't know wtf this thread is about anymore. Guess you gotta get your good sarcasm replies in on page 1 otherwise your back with the ramblings
 

IGBT

Lifer
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ALL religion is a PSYCHOSIS. Believe IF you must. There is forgivness IF you need.
 

Azraele

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LordMagnusKain: People do not like other's beliefs pushed on them, they feel it as an intrusion. As diverse as these boards are, we need to be open to what others believe and respect that without imposing your own beliefs on them. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't say what you believe, but I feel your post went further than that. Just because you believe one way does not mean that what others believe, no matter how different from you own, has any less merit.
 
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