Tuniq Tower 120

[jlfirehawk]

Man I know how everyone raved at one time or another on how great of a cpu cooler it was (and I have to agree) this thing was a royal PITA to put in. Anyone else find those little thumb screws impossible with you hands alone, had to put mine in with needle nose plyers. BTW it took my Q6600 from 47 C down to 21 C, I couldnt be happier.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Is that an idle temp? Your old cooler + TIM must have been terrible for such a massive drop in temps o_o

 

[hennethannun]

yeah, that thing is an absolute monster. Everyone I know who has tried to install one (myself included) has horror stories about having to take the motherboard out of the case and using so much force they were sure it would snap in half. And all those fancy heatpipe coolers on the north/south bridge and MOSFET do not make things any better.

It's not quite as efficient cooling wise, but my new freezer 7 pro was so much easier to install (and less than 1/2 the price)! I couldn't be happier with it.

 

[Duvie]

21c is virtually impossible with any air cooler. Dont look at bios temp as it is likley incorrect and not reading the true core temp....Use Coretemp or TAT alone...

The average room AC controlled to what is call ed the comfort zone (unless you live with a woman who will undoubtedly think this is far too cold) is 68-72f....which equals 20-22c.....

In a prefect world if you have it in a case with optimal cooling you still will have a case temp 3-4c above that....meaning the best you could ever get your tcase temp (measured just beneath the heat spreader would be 23-26c....BUt core temp will always be another 8-10c higher then that.

NOw throw in a 135watt chip like the Q6600 and I say impossible to get 21c idle with an air cooler...unless you have your room in the garage and it is 50-55f.

21c is a temp even a chilled water system can have difficultly with....

The best I ever saw with my freezone TEC cooler at stock Q6700 was 14-18c on high fan speed...no way you are near that.


BOTTOMLINE***********

Air cooling alone can never cool the chip lower then room temperature and that would still only be measured at tcase point of contact between the heatspreader and the bottom of the heatsink.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Maybe his ambient temps are like mine, 8C on a nice day as for your freezone tec, how is it? I was debating to get either that or the Ultra TEC that I eventually bought.

 

[Duvie]

http://www.eenewsfeed.com/redi...61AD0EDE8274A1A14B9F9E

I had a ninja scythe on my q6700 and results were similar....No way a Tuniq is that much better thena Ninja Rev B....

I have a thermalright 120 extreme (better then a Tuniq) in a room at a constant 74f, ample case fans (260mm side fan, 140mm front fan, 120mm side fan, 120mm psu fan, and 120mm antec tricool on high and I could only idle temps at 34-35c with coretemp....bios says like 26c though....but we all know that isn't core temp...

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Maybe his ambient temps are like mine, 8C on a nice day as for your freezone tec, how is it? I was debating to get either that or the Ultra TEC that I eventually bought.

Maybe...but we dont run our computers outside, and that would be too low for any home....Eventually summer comes around and that temp become 30+c....what will his temps look like then????





When my first one was working it was awesome....Then it developed a case of evaporation or fluid....air into line and temps shot up to high 70's at idle....Had it replaced and the replacement wont duplicate numbers and is now worse then my TR120e. I will make them replace this one too....maybe they will eventually give me one that works or get out of the business....

I cannot recommend them at this moment....from my experience

 

[krnmastersgt]

No I meant 8C where I was running my comp o_o, went down as low as 4C, damn that was chilly
Glad to hear that I chose a stable TEC cooler.

 

[Tullphan]

Is there something else similar to Core Temp?
I've tried 2 different versions & they won't run for very long before they encounter an error (Faulting aplication core temp.exe, v0.96.1.0, faluting module core temp.exe, version 0.96.1.0, fault address 0x0000e282).

 

[Duvie]

You need I think 96.3 or greater version....I had same thing happen....If you are using a newer wolfdale E8xxx series no luck as most all of the temperature apps short of paying for everest dont work...

 

[hennethannun]

21C is possible in my house during the winter. i keep the heat low for comfort (and to save money) and my house is frequently 65F or lower when it's below freezing outsite. Which means that low 20s idle is possible with a good tower cooler.

Of course, in the summer time the house is much closer to 80f inside (even with AC), so 21C would be absurd...

 

[Tullphan]

Originally posted by: Duvie
You need I think 96.3 or greater version....I had same thing happen....If you are using a newer wolfdale E8xxx series no luck as most all of the temperature apps short of paying for everest dont work...

So Everest is as accurate as Core Temp? I can't seem to find v0.96.3 of Core Temp.

(If i'm hijacking this thread, I apologize & will start another)

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: hennethannun
21C is possible in my house during the winter. i keep the heat low for comfort (and to save money) and my house is frequently 65F or lower when it's below freezing outsite. Which means that low 20s idle is possible with a good tower cooler.

Of course, in the summer time the house is much closer to 80f inside (even with AC), so 21C would be absurd...

Again...65f is only 18c....inside case temp will be a few C higher for Tcase temp MAX!!!!!!!!!!!! Coretemp readings at core will be higher period!!!! At least 8-10c...

To get 21c idle on a quad core you will need much lower then 65f ambient room temps....


Sorry I will need to see proof from all above to believe this...screenshots with coretemp or TAT only and maybe a pic of the thermostat, and the case setup....

Sorry it just defies logic...

 

[krnmastersgt]

What would happen if you used freon to circulate ridiculously cold air inside the case?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
What would happen if you used freon to circulate ridiculously cold air inside the case?

You could get theoretically as cold as the temperature of the air in the case plus a slight bump up for core heat.....Still limited by the temperature of the air in the case...

I dont think that is reality to what the OP is doing though....

I have tried ducting AC vent before and my temp did get lower then ambient room temp but was not indictative of real world

 

[krnmastersgt]

Well if you set it duct it with a special freon rig in front of the system, run the super chilled air into all the intakes, wouldn't that get you below room temps?

 

[Tullphan]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well if you set it duct it with a special freon rig in front of the system, run the super chilled air into all the intakes, wouldn't that get you below room temps?

Wouldn't that cause a condensation problem?

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: Tullphan

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well if you set it duct it with a special freon rig in front of the system, run the super chilled air into all the intakes, wouldn't that get you below room temps?

Wouldn't that cause a condensation problem?

A possibility, TECs had that problem but they just added padding to prevent that, no reason you couldn't replicate it here.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well if you set it duct it with a special freon rig in front of the system, run the super chilled air into all the intakes, wouldn't that get you below room temps?

Yes....But if he was doing that then even if he was runinng a stock cooler he wouldn't have had 48c as an idle temp....

I agree if you enter cooled or chilled air into the equation you can get lower temps then ambient room temps, but then again you dont live in those temps. So it goes beyond air coolers and into more exotic cooling....

Bottomline even with chilled air, ducted from AC or freon system the heatsink he is using with fan still can only do as good as the air it is running across the fins of the heatsink....even then the core will always be warmer. So therefore the core temp will never be lower then air being used by air cooler blowing across the fins.


So all he has to show me is that he is in a room of about 50-55f and then I would believe the idea of an idea core temp of a Q6600 could be near 21c

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: Duvie
You need I think 96.3 or greater version....I had same thing happen....If you are using a newer wolfdale E8xxx series no luck as most all of the temperature apps short of paying for everest dont work...

So everest actually works??? I don't mind paying for something if it actually gives reasonably accurate info.

My experience with my new rig is that SpeedFan reports impossible temps - 19-22C idle, no more than 50C under load. CoreTemp gives me 38-40C idle and up to 62 under load. I believe the higher numbers given I have a 998 MHz OC on a MicroATX board...

 

[Tullphan]

Everest & Core Temp are usually within 1c of each other for me...SpeedFan is 5c cooler on Core0, but the same on Core1 & CPU temp.
I guess CPU temp is the average of Core0 & Core1?
FWIW, Everest is also showing the same temp for my GPU as ATITool 0.26 & showing the same HDD temp as SpeedFan.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky

Originally posted by: Duvie
You need I think 96.3 or greater version....I had same thing happen....If you are using a newer wolfdale E8xxx series no luck as most all of the temperature apps short of paying for everest dont work...

So everest actually works??? I don't mind paying for something if it actually gives reasonably accurate info.

My experience with my new rig is that SpeedFan reports impossible temps - 19-22C idle, no more than 50C under load. CoreTemp gives me 38-40C idle and up to 62 under load. I believe the higher numbers given I have a 998 MHz OC on a MicroATX board...

rumor I have heard and I cant verify since I dont have an E8400 was that everest worked with wolfdales....

coretemp will work for everything before that chip...

 

[Arcanedeath]

I have an E8400 w/ Both Everest and Core Temp .96 core 1 is within 1 degree between the 2 and core 2 is within 3 degrees. Core temp updates more offten than Everest does but both seem prettly close w/ my Hardware.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Arcanedeath
I have an E8400 w/ Both Everest and Core Temp .96 core 1 is within 1 degree between the 2 and core 2 is within 3 degrees. Core temp updates more offten than Everest does but both seem prettly close w/ my Hardware.

so coretemp works with wolfdales? That is funny another thread says it doesn't work...either incorrect temps or just crashes...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Duvie
so coretemp works with wolfdales? That is funny another thread says it doesn't work...either incorrect temps or just crashes...

The problem is the chip, not the software, IMO.