Unabomber dead

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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I worked with a guy who, especially in a hoodie, REALLY resembled Ted...of course, Ted was the more sane of the two...
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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As it turns out, Ted wasn’t wrong about airlines.

I mean, the annoying thing about his manifesto is that it's very hard for pretty much anyone not to sympathize with the issues that he raises. He was a very smart guy.

His methods, tho....
 

WelshBloke

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Jan 12, 2005
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I mean, the annoying thing about his manifesto is that it's very hard for pretty much anyone not to sympathize with the issues that he raises. He was a very smart guy.

His methods, tho....
I disagree. He pretty much starts each thought he has from a bunch of loose assumptions, treats these as absolute truths then extrapolates from there.
He seems confused about what he's angry about and confused about a solution.
 

Tech Junky

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Seems like a bunch of 40+ yo people with nostalgia over the nut job sending bombs in the mail. How do I know you're over 40? Your sign up date. It's old news at this point and the tweens of today have no clue what you're bantering about nor do they care. They have trees to save by going back to using flip phones. Bombs are out of style now and it's all high cap magazines because every idiot can figure out a trigger vs chemistry.

The inventions that progress society have made the majority dumber over time. Since the internet came around in the 90's some used it for knowledge and others just use it for not knowing where they're going. Put that power into everyone's palm and it just a trickle down of stupidity, Not knowing how to figure out your direction of travel by looking up in the sky and relying on a map on your palm just lessens your ability to survive getting lost in the most basic sense. I hate to think about what happens when an EMP goes off and everyone under 30 loses their device and ability to function.
 

woolfe9998

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Apr 8, 2013
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The interesting thing about the Unabomber is how they caught him. By analyzing his manifesto for verbal ticks, like strange or archaic words he used. Then his brother sees the printed manifesto and tells the FBI that his brother was the only person he ever knew who used those words. There was more to it than that, but that was the major breakthrough.
 
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allisolm

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Looks like he had cancer and committed suicide.


 
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zinfamous

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I disagree. He pretty much starts each thought he has from a bunch of loose assumptions, treats these as absolute truths then extrapolates from there.
He seems confused about what he's angry about and confused about a solution.

well, I never read the whole thing Just snippets. But maybe that's what's going on here--the issues and problems are real, but b/c of his warped brain (MK Ultra program, I think?), he colors these issues through distorted lens from the beginning that can only really force a broken path of logic that would only ever lead to murder and violence as his solution.
 
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pmv

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May 30, 2008
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I disagree. He pretty much starts each thought he has from a bunch of loose assumptions, treats these as absolute truths then extrapolates from there.
He seems confused about what he's angry about and confused about a solution.

I'd argue for somewhere in the middle. He raised some legit points, at least on a philosophical sort-of-level, but deciding that the solution to the problems he pointed to was to try to blow people up was just nuts. In my opinion he was not-right-in-the-head. A lot of people who are very talented at maths are a bit weird, in my experience.

Also - did he start the trend of killers having to have a 'manifesto'? Or was that a "thing" before he was active?
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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I mean, the annoying thing about his manifesto is that it's very hard for pretty much anyone not to sympathize with the issues that he raises. He was a very smart guy.

His methods, tho....
He was the ideal libertarian until he started using the postal service.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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well, I never read the whole thing Just snippets. But maybe that's what's going on here--the issues and problems are real, but b/c of his warped brain (MK Ultra program, I think?), he colors these issues through distorted lens from the beginning that can only really force a broken path of logic that would only ever lead to murder and violence as his solution.
He strikes me as the ultimate expression of right justifies might. He saw violence as a way to awaken us from our ignorance and for our sake. Violence and terror become the logical means to a utopian future. He did not want to face the reality of the hopelessness of our situation. There is only one person we can save, the last person on Earth we feel deserves it. Thus is born ideology and the pursuit of perfection.
 

Moonbeam

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I'd argue for somewhere in the middle. He raised some legit points, at least on a philosophical sort-of-level, but deciding that the solution to the problems he pointed to was to try to blow people up was just nuts. In my opinion he was not-right-in-the-head. A lot of people who are very talented at maths are a bit weird, in my experience.

Also - did he start the trend of killers having to have a 'manifesto'? Or was that a "thing" before he was active?
Careful there. People with unusual abilities of analysis and judgement in any field, when recognized for that fact, generate a lot of envy. Equating math aptitude with weirdness might get unwanted recognition as a keen observer. My bet is that people gifted in math generate intense but concealed envy because being bad at math in school can, like being gifted at it, generate lots of social putdowns. We all know that anybody different needs to be put down and once you feel bad about yourself you act in ways that support the supposition.
 
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It's very sad news about Teds brother trying to make amends for turning the terrorist murderer into the police and in other news Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
 
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