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dpodblood

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Probably because they called it Far Cry 2. If they had called it something else I bet it wouldn't have been assaulted so badly.
Thats the main problem with sequels. People expect everything the first one had only more and better. Often they will miss out on a great game cuz they were too busy thinking of the first one.

Yeah; I have to agree calling the game Far Cry 2 was kind of dumb. The 2 games have nothing to do with each other.

Different character.
Different setting.
Different "plot."
Different concept entirely (linear vs open world).
 

Rakewell

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CryTek love to ruin their games by having shitty aliens. Far Cry, Crysis...seriously. Why can't they just leave it at a conflict between two human sides and leave it at that. Fuck the aliens.

I haven't looked, but I guess Crysis 2 also has aliens

Very much this

The games tend to go down the toilet when aliens show up.

Words could not describe how annoying flying around in zero gravity trying to shoot the aliens was, halfway through Crysis.
 

Anteaus

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Very much this

The games tend to go down the toilet when aliens show up.

Words could not describe how annoying flying around in zero gravity trying to shoot the aliens was, halfway through Crysis.

Movies too! Indiana Jones 4 anyone?

Spielburg - "George, I really don't want to put aliens in this movie."

Lucas - "Think about it this way, they aren't extraterrestrial...their interdimensional! Can't you tell the difference?

Spielburg - "Whatever man, you're paying the bills"

Lucas - "Now, about those crystal skulls......."

Spielburg - "............."
 

Rakewell

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Movies too! Indiana Jones 4 anyone?

Spielburg - "George, I really don't want to put aliens in this movie."

Lucas - "Think about it this way, they aren't extraterrestrial...their interdimensional! Can't you tell the difference?

Spielburg - "Whatever man, you're paying the bills"

Lucas - "Now, about those crystal skulls......."

Spielburg - "............."

LMFAO :awe: .... D:
 

Firsttime

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I enjoyed Star Wars: Rebellion quite a bit, back in the day. I never understood the bad reviews, cause it was fun to play. Although I was in high school back then and a HUGE Star Wars fan, so maybe I had some blinders on at the time *shrug*

I love this game.
 

limoncake

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I thought "call of cthulhu dark corners of the earth" was fun it did have its annoying as all hell parts and I understand why people who don't know about cthulhu did not like the game the game was primarily review'd on the "Xbox" not the "pc" now this isn't a case of the "pc" version being better due to patches or any such thing its due to the fact that console gamers and "pc" gamers have different ways of thinking I grew up playing Myst and other classic adventure games so I understood from the get go what this game was while console gamers amused this was a "FPS" I knew better this is cthulhu guns are useless if you ever get one ignore it and run because its just a waste of time
 

AstroManLuca

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I thought "call of cthulhu dark corners of the earth" was fun it did have its annoying as all hell parts and I understand why people who don't know about cthulhu did not like the game the game was primarily review'd on the "Xbox" not the "pc" now this isn't a case of the "pc" version being better due to patches or any such thing its due to the fact that console gamers and "pc" gamers have different ways of thinking I grew up playing Myst and other classic adventure games so I understood from the get go what this game was while console gamers amused this was a "FPS" I knew better this is cthulhu guns are useless if you ever get one ignore it and run because its just a waste of time

holy crap use periods.

EDIT: I couldn't resist. I am a grammar nazi for life.

I thought "Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth" was fun. It did have its annoying-as-all-hell parts. I understand why people who don't know about Cthulhu did not like the game. The game was primarily reviewed on the Xbox, not the PC.

Now, this isn't a case of the PC version being better due to patches or any such thing, it's due to the fact that console gamers and PC gamers have different ways of thinking. I grew up playing Myst and other classic adventure games so I understood from the get go what this game was, while console gamers assumed this was an FPS. I knew better; this is Cthulhu, guns are useless. If you ever get one, ignore it and run because it's just a waste of time.
 
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quadomatic

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Crysis? Overrated, not underrated. It's the Mecca of graphics but the game is maximum suck.

Why is everyone ripping on Crysis? Gameplay was pretty fun...maybe it was because I accidentally installed the AI tweak when I installed that one graphics tweaker.

It made the game very, very difficult...but also very fun.
 

CurseTheSky

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Asheron's Call. By far the best MMO to date in my opinion (and the opinion of nearly everyone that has played it for a good chunk of time). It was fairly popular in it's heyday (2000-2004ish), but it wasn't as well known as Ultima Online, Lineage, Everquest, and of course, WoW.

Crysis. Reviewers may have liked it, but a lot of people here seem to criticize it. It's not the best game, but pretty fun. I've wasted $50 on worse things before.

Doom 3. Same as above - critics were fairly friendly towards it, but people here bash it all the time. I liked it. What FPS at the time was vastly superior? Sure HL2 brought a far better story and more interesting environment to the table, but Doom 3 really pushed graphics to a new level and did a good job of scaring the crap out of you from time to time.

Amnesia: The Dark Descent. I STILL have not finished this game because it scares the living daylights out of me. I mean, it's not like I'm jumping out of my seat every second and screaming like a twelve year old Catholic school girl (no offense to twelve year old Catholic school girls, of course), but it makes me so tense waiting for the next thing to fall out of the ceiling or let out a blood-curdling cry and run at me trying to rip my head off. After ~30 minutes of playing, I have to turn it off and do something different.

Trine. All around wonderful game. I paid $5 for it, and it was EASILY worth $20.

Titan Quest / Immortal Throne. Buggy, blatant Diablo II clone in a different setting, etc, but overall a great hack-and-slash with a good loot system. My only complaint is that the game needs more skills / spells, like Diablo II.
 

Modular

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Couldn't stand Mirror's Edge. I rarely uninstall a game that I haven't finished, but that one came off pretty quickly after the luster wore off.
 

JoshGuru7

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Many of the titles posted were either well reviewed or popular, and often both. How are they underrated??

Looking at metacritic:
- Mirror's Edge has an 81 metascore/8.2 user score. I think that's a fair score for a game that had some good parts but a really short campaign and wonky combat sequences.

- Titan's Quest: Immortal Throne has an 80 metascore/9.0 user rating.

- Indigo Prophecy got great reviews with an 85 metascore/8.1 user rating and sold well enough to allow the aforementioned Heavy Rain to be developed using a very large budget. Heavy Rain received an 87 metascore.

- VtM: Bloodlines has an 80 metascore/8.9 user rating. It had a reputation for being buggy because it was buggy, and it is well thought of nonetheless because of the originality.

- Far Cry 2 has an 85 metascore/5.5 user rating, and is one of the only titles in this thread to be actually be viewed as mediocre by users. It still got great critical reviews, and the people recommending it usually include the sort of caveats you would expect in an average game, not a great game.

I'm not even going to bother looking up Asheron's Call (hugely popular at the time and very influential), Doom 3, Trine, Crysis, NOLF, Oblivion(??), Chronicles of Riddick (one of the best regarded FPS of all time), or MW2 (??).

If you showed me a list containing the games mentioned here and asked me to speculate about whether people thought they were underrated or overrated, I would have been more likely to pick overrated.
 
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Martimus

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If you showed me a list containing the games mentioned here and asked me to speculate about whether people thought they were underrated or overrated, I would have been more likely to pick overrated.

The point of those posts are that many come on here and call those games in particular overrated. I don't read game reviews, so when I see so many posts about how horrible a game like Crysis is, and I play it and find it better (as in more fun) than any other shooter I have ever played, I find that the game is underrated to me by my fellow posters. Same with Oblivion, which was the most engrossing game I had played to date when I played it. So many thought it was horrible, or at least it seemed that way while reading forum comments.

You may think the games some of us like are overrated, but that doesn't mean they are to those of us that actually like them.
 

Anteaus

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Many of the titles posted were either well reviewed or popular, and often both. How are they underrated??

Looking at metacritic:
- Mirror's Edge has an 81 metascore/8.2 user score. I think that's a fair score for a game that had some good parts but a really short campaign and wonky combat sequences.

- Titan's Quest: Immortal Throne has an 80 metascore/9.0 user rating.

- Indigo Prophecy got great reviews with an 85 metascore/8.1 user rating and sold well enough to allow the aforementioned Heavy Rain to be developed using a very large budget. Heavy Rain received an 87 metascore.

- VtM: Bloodlines has an 80 metascore/8.9 user rating. It had a reputation for being buggy because it was buggy, and it is well thought of nonetheless because of the originality.

- Far Cry 2 has an 85 metascore/5.5 user rating, and is one of the only titles in this thread to be actually be viewed as mediocre by users. It still got great critical reviews, and the people recommending it usually include the sort of caveats you would expect in an average game, not a great game.

I'm not even going to bother looking up Asheron's Call (hugely popular at the time and very influential), Doom 3, Trine, Crysis, NOLF, Oblivion(??), Chronicles of Riddick (one of the best regarded FPS of all time), or MW2 (??).

If you showed me a list containing the games mentioned here and asked me to speculate about whether people thought they were underrated or overrated, I would have been more likely to pick overrated.

There are many cases where games are critical successes but market failures or vice versus. This is why metascore shouldn't be used as the ultimate arbiter in determining whether a game is good or bad, nor underrated or overrated since all of these are relative terms. I'll agree that its reasonably accurate when it comes to very popular games because there are likely to be many critical reviews as well as personal opinions thus creating a nice bell curve, but then again only over a long period of time since big games tend to review well in the short term due to hype and the fact that people who are in anticipation of a game tend to be appeased easier. No one likes to admit they waiting months/years to spend money on a dud.
 

sash1

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Asheron's Call. By far the best MMO to date in my opinion (and the opinion of nearly everyone that has played it for a good chunk of time). It was fairly popular in it's heyday (2000-2004ish), but it wasn't as well known as Ultima Online, Lineage, Everquest, and of course, WoW.

i loved Asheron's Call. unfortunately it was out at the time of Everquest which everyone seemed to prefer, but all my friends and i played asheron's call. absolutely loved it. after that i moved to Lineage II, another underrated MMO, imo.

Titan Quest / Immortal Throne. Buggy, blatant Diablo II clone in a different setting, etc, but overall a great hack-and-slash with a good loot system. My only complaint is that the game needs more skills / spells, like Diablo II.

i actually just picked this up during the THQ steam sale. Diablo II is still far superior, but i love this game. some great mods for it as well. the fanpatch seemed to fix all the bugs for me, and with all the mods, the game has a lot of depth to it.
 

Yoshi629

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Daikatana......just kidding, that game did suck lol.

I would say Star Trek: Legacy. It was hammered by critics, but I really liked the game - you got to play as each of the captains and pilot each of their ships. The missions were interesting and varied. And the best part was that they actually got each of the original actors to reprise their roles (Shatner, Stewart, etc.). I definitely felt it deserved higher review scores.
 

JoshGuru7

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This is why metascore shouldn't be used as the ultimate arbiter in determining whether a game is good or bad, nor underrated or overrated since all of these are relative terms.
Really? Metascore gathers as many "ratings" as possible from both critics and users alike, and by definition is the exact thing that you should be using if you are trying to talk about whether a game is overrated or underrated.

The point of those posts are that many come on here and call those games in particular overrated.
You can take any product in the world and probably find at least one person who likes it and at least one person who hates it. My five year old niece told me that Plants vs. Zombies looked silly when she saw me playing it on a laptop. I guess you should add it to the list of underrated games then? It probably is more underrated than Oblivion is.
 
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Arglebargle

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Probably because they called it Far Cry 2. If they had called it something else I bet it wouldn't have been assaulted so badly.
Thats the main problem with sequels. People expect everything the first one had only more and better. Often they will miss out on a great game cuz they were too busy thinking of the first one.

I admit I had a hard time loving Elder Scrolls 4 because of that. If they'd called it by a new title I would have enjoyed it as a completely new game and never have been so critical.

They shipped Far Cry 2 with that horrible respawning bug. And they knew about it too. I saw an interview with the producer who just said it came in from QA 'too late' to fix. Even though it was hideously stoopid. You could almost just turn your back, and they'd pop back up. Did they do a patch that fixed this? NO. Did they allow the community to fix it? No.

They had a huge cast of characters you could play...but none of them were different in any way except the portrait. User interface sucked. There were some seriously brain dead decisions made on the game. Too bad, because it looked great.

I have to agree with the Elder Scrolls thing though: If Oblivion had been released on its own, I know I wouldn't have been so disappointed. Though it still has the whole litany of Bethesda screw ups. If it hadn't been so hyped for things it didn't deliver.....
 

SolidSnake42

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I would have to say that the Wing Commander series is very underrated. Hell, it's from a very underrated genre.
 

Terzo

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This x 100. There's a relatively recent enhancement mod for it as well called Camarilla Edition that is quite good.

Also, Armed & Dangerous. Same team as Giants: Citizen Kabuto. And while it wasn't as fun, detailed, clever, innovative or interesting as Giants was, it is still one of the most fun run-and-gun/platformer/3rd person shooters I've ever played, and still very funny.

I liked it better than Giants, but I only played them a few years ago. Maybe if I played them around release I'd think differently. I really enjoyed how Armed & Dangerous didn't take itself seriously.

Nier, but that isn't a PC game

GoGamer had that on sale for $15 a little over a week ago. I impulse bought it based on feedback in the SD thread. I hope it's as good as they made it out to be. Also picked up Trine (PC), Mass Effect (PC), and Company of Heroes on the cheap. Good stuff.
 

pmv

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Really? Metascore gathers as many "ratings" as possible from both critics and users alike, and by definition is the exact thing that you should be using if you are trying to talk about whether a game is overrated or underrated.


You can take any product in the world and probably find at least one person who likes it and at least one person who hates it. My five year old niece told me that Plants vs. Zombies looked silly when she saw me playing it on a laptop. I guess you should add it to the list of underrated games then? It probably is more underrated than Oblivion is.

Ah, but metascore only includes ratings from a tiny sample of users, not necessariy any more represenative than the impression people get of users' views from forums like these.

Also there are sales figures - a game might be highly rated by reviewers and/or the tiny number of peopole who buy it, while the majority ignore it completely.

Anyway, this thread is on this forum so people are going to tend to think about games that they see as under-rated on this forum!
 

pugh

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Crysis ??/ Underrated ?? Come on now.. That game should not even be mentioned in this thread. We are talking underrated games..Not over rated games
 

minmaster

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you know, some games can be considered so over rated by the masses that it actually ends up being under rated... if that makes any sense.

sorta like derek jeter lol
 
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