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dabuddha

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
beast, The thing is I don't know if or when God feels this is his time to go; so as far as I know it may be God giving my uncle a chance aqnd a reason to come to him, and me, a challenge of my faith...

I hate it when I answer my own questions...

GT and Cuda, you're telling me exactly what my heart tells me. I wish I knew what was holding me back...

Citrix, I don't feel you can be a Christian and still be open to other religions. You can respect the people, which I do... And I'm pretty sure the Bible does encourage you to worship Jesus; in fact I think thats a pretty central idea. Jesus, being one of the Trinity, is God...

sanddiggaThanks for that Matthew 10 quote, thats new info to me. I will look it up when I have the chance.

just want to point out that your comment bolded is hypocritical. If you truly respect your uncle, you'll let him believe in what he believes in.
 

notfred

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I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

Exactly! The man is dying. Let him die in peace without his family trying to push their beliefs on him. Your pastor was right but for different reasons and I think that's why he explained it that way to you.

BTW I'm sorry to hear about your uncle
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Citrix
Your uncle does accept God and worships different than you do. Trying to convert somebody on their death bed and telling them that they are going to Hell because they dont worship Jesus is the wrong approach. Jesus wants you to follow his teachings not worship him. Your worship should be only to God.

I will be thinking about your Uncle and your family.

<< Christian but am opening myself up to other theologies.

Jesus IS God in the flesh according to the Bible. So they are ONE. The whole trinity thing, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. No seperation. They are the same entity.

where in the bible does it say that? i always wondered where they got that idea of the 'trinity' from...
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.

Perhaps you can clarify by what you mean by "saving him." To me, saving someone means saving their life.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?
 

busmaster11

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dabuddha, let me emphasize my beliefs...

I don't beleive that successfully converting him will equate to healing him, but ONLY becuse I don't know God's plan, though I do know that spreading the Gospel will invariably be part of that plan.

I do respect my uncle, but that does not equate to respecting his faith. If you do not understand that, please explain to me how you can respect a religion without believing in it wholeheartedly, because then what you are saying is you respect a religion you know to be false. In fact, if you think any religion has any likelihood of being true, it follows that you would follow it, research it, even embrace it.

From my perspective, it is the comfort and peace of my uncle's last days on earth, vs the possibility of everlasting happiness in heaven...

notfred, you do bring a new perspective to this, but with the same underlying beliefs as dabuddha it seems... The picture you painted, I know I would hate it as well. But as I said before, nonChristians cannot understand why I would consider doing this. I realize that their comments are based on some common sense, but it is only common sense in the context of worldly assumptions...

I realized finally what I am looking for here... Either for some encouragement, advice on what to say and what not to say, or, for some Christian concensus either way...
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?

If I believed it, yes.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?

If I believed it, yes.
And you wonder why many of those who aren't Christian find you Fundies oppressive and extremely annoying? Man you can't even let a person die in peace without trying force your beliefs don't their throats.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
dabuddha, let me emphasize my beliefs...

I don't beleive that successfully converting him will equate to healing him, but ONLY becuse I don't know God's plan, though I do know that spreading the Gospel will invariably be part of that plan.

I do respect my uncle, but that does not equate to respecting his faith. If you do not understand that, please explain to me how you can respect a religion without believing in it wholeheartedly, because then what you are saying is you respect a religion you know to be false. In fact, if you think any religion has any likelihood of being true, it follows that you would follow it, research it, even embrace it.

From my perspective, it is the comfort and peace of my uncle's last days on earth, vs the possibility of everlasting happiness in heaven...

notfred, you do bring a new perspective to this, but with the same underlying beliefs as dabuddha it seems... The picture you painted, I know I would hate it as well. But as I said before, nonChristians cannot understand why I would consider doing this. I realize that their comments are based on some common sense, but it is only common sense in the context of worldly assumptions...

I realized finally what I am looking for here... Either for some encouragement, advice on what to say and what not to say, or, for some Christian concensus either way...

Understandable but you have to understand, you can respect a religion without believing in it. Hell, I don't agree with half of the beliefs of Christianity but I do respect it. But you have to think bigger than that. Your uncle already believes he is "saved." (These are all assumptions of course since I don't know him) He believes in Buddhism and has his own belief in the afterlife. His heart is at peace. Red Dawn had a good point. Would you like it if some of your closest family members come to your death bed and try to convert you into believing in Buddhism or Hinduism? I don't think so.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?

If I believed it, yes.
And you wonder why many of those who aren't Christian find you Fundies oppressive and extremely annoying? Man you can't even let a person die in peace without trying force your beliefs don't their throats.

Being a pest, and witnessing are 2 different things.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.

If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?

If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?

If I believed it, yes.
And you wonder why many of those who aren't Christian find you Fundies oppressive and extremely annoying? Man you can't even let a person die in peace without trying force your beliefs don't their throats.

Being a pest, and witnessing are 2 different things.
Not to someone who isn't a Christian.

 

amcdonald

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Originally posted by: notfred
I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you.

Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place".
Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?"
What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them?

You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.
I see what you are saying, and many people might react in a bitter way in the aforementioned situation...
But it depends on the heart of the individual about to die.
People have a right to be offended when they are more or less told they are wrong, but neither of us know this guy's thoughts right now.
Being faced with death can change everything.
The important thing to remember is that the guy who posted is coming to this person solely out of love... It may look like he's some preacher in training trying to get his wings (for lack of a better analogy), but this guy has noted how much of a sacrifice this may be. Between his family not approving, and especially his uncle, he has much to lose... It only follows that he REALLY cares for this man. In a situation like this I can only hope that the uncle can see this and not feel like he is being looked down on. I know I would. Its easy to see when someone really cares and when someone is just selling something.
Its hard for people to understand the kind of compelling love that drives people to do this type of thing.

Busmaster.. I'm sure your uncle has thought about everything you could mention to him, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth mentioning.
You can't know what is in his heart, but you have to try and find out. Just ask him what he's thinking/feeling. Just be a friend and keep an open mind... and just be ready to talk about serious things, because thats all he has left. The worst thing you could do would be to give up on him and regret it after he dies. Have faith that God is trying to show himself to your uncle. And by the way I wouldn't listen to your pastor anymore... A few weeks to live and he says forget about it and pray?
 

Kev

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Maybe my question got lost amidst the flaming, but...

Why do christians believe in the trinity? Where exactly does the bible say that there are 3 persons in one god? Or was it just an "interpretation" by the church?
 

busmaster11

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reddawn I vote liberal BTW. I try to stay true to my Christian faith but I'm otherwise more in line with liberal causes (ie the environment), as long as they don't conflict with my moral beliefs.

You call some of us Fundies... I just wonder if you're also one to look for weaknesses in our words or actions and judge us hypocrites if we don't follow what we preach to the letter. To some people Christians will always be Fundies because we don't water down the Bible to meet today's social expectations or hypocrites because we're unable to follow what we preach. It's a barrier to actually sitting down and giving God some honest consideration.

I tell you, at least acknowledge that as you may not be fully understood (and thus preached to) by "Fundies", you may never understand what drives me to make this decision. But if, IF you ever believe in a higher purpose than what most people see, and it convicts you, it follows that it will drive you.
 

LemonHead

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Originally posted by: maladroit
Maybe my question got lost amidst the flaming, but... Why do christians believe in the trinity? Where exactly does the bible say that there are 3 persons in one god? Or was it just an "interpretation" by the church?

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."
John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 14:9 - "... he that has seen me has seen the Father..."

These are just a few examples. One can have a looooong chat over the claims of Christ. Check out the book "More Than a Carpenter" by Josh McDowell.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: busmaster11
reddawn I vote liberal BTW. I try to stay true to my Christian faith but I'm otherwise more in line with liberal causes (ie the environment), as long as they don't conflict with my moral beliefs.

You call some of us Fundies... I just wonder if you're also one to look for weaknesses in our words or actions and judge us hypocrites if we don't follow what we preach to the letter. To some people Christians will always be Fundies because we don't water down the Bible to meet today's social expectations or hypocrites because we're unable to follow what we preach. It's a barrier to actually sitting down and giving God some honest consideration.

I tell you, at least acknowledge that as you may not be fully understood (and thus preached to) by "Fundies", you may never understand what drives me to make this decision. But if, IF you ever believe in a higher purpose than what most people see, and it convicts you, it follows that it will drive you.
And I rarely vote for Liberals unless they are the lessor of two evils.

As for Fundies, they should not try to force their beliefs on others who aren't interested. If they do then they shouldn't complain when others find them a nuisance and extremely irritatiing because whether they like it or not they are
 

Corn

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I hope that when I'm dying some of my nutjob Fundie Relatives don't pester me trying to convert me to their beliefs and let me die in peace and dignity.

Amen!!!!!
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: busmaster11I do respect my uncle, but that does not equate to respecting his faith. If you do not understand that, please explain to me how you can respect a religion without believing in it wholeheartedly, because then what you are saying is you respect a religion you know to be false. In fact, if you think any religion has any likelihood of being true, it follows that you would follow it, research it, even embrace it.


Busmaster11, you seem to be working under the idea that you are right and Christianity is the true path. But it's not. It's called "faith" for a reason. No one knows what happens after we die or which religion is right or wrong. Maybe they're all right maybe they are all wrong. No one knows. But different people subscribe to different beliefs and they have faith that they their path is the correct one. There are no facts when it comes to spirituality.

I'm Christian and I respect all the other religions of the world because other people's faith is no more, or less, valid than my own.

If you think your religion is the only true religion you are wrong. If you have faith that your religion is the only true religion you are right.


Lethal

 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: busmaster11
reddawn I vote liberal BTW. I try to stay true to my Christian faith but I'm otherwise more in line with liberal causes (ie the environment), as long as they don't conflict with my moral beliefs.

You call some of us Fundies... I just wonder if you're also one to look for weaknesses in our words or actions and judge us hypocrites if we don't follow what we preach to the letter. To some people Christians will always be Fundies because we don't water down the Bible to meet today's social expectations or hypocrites because we're unable to follow what we preach. It's a barrier to actually sitting down and giving God some honest consideration.

I tell you, at least acknowledge that as you may not be fully understood (and thus preached to) by "Fundies", you may never understand what drives me to make this decision. But if, IF you ever believe in a higher purpose than what most people see, and it convicts you, it follows that it will drive you.
And I rarely vote for Liberals unless they are the lessor of two evils.

As for Fundies, they should not try to force their beliefs on others who aren't interested. If they do then they shouldn't complain when others find them a nuisance and extremely irritatiing because whether they like it or not they are

No devout Christian I have ever seen has complained when the person wasn't humbly receiving of the information.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: notfred I am not a Christian, but please hear me out as I'm not flaming you. Your uncle has his own faith. I'm sure that at this point in time, he's thinking about that more than ever. Could you imagine if you were in his position? Pretend you're dying. You're on your death bed, and all you have left is your faith. You're thikning "I know I'm going soon, but at least I know I'm going to a better place". Then your family comes to visit you, and they tell you, "I feel bad for you, dying and having never found Buddah. I'm afraid that if you don't accept Buddah in your last days, you are going to go to hell, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. Will you pray to Buddah with me?" What would you think of your family if they came and did that in your last days of life? Further, if they did that, would you actually take them seriously and consider converting, or would you just get angry with them? You'd get angry, and would not seriously consider what they were saying. Your uncle won't either. I think you shouldn't force him to die mad at his family.
If you believed that you could save the life of your dying uncle, would you save him, or would you say, "ahh, I'll just let him die in peace"
How is pestering the hell out of him, a man on his death bed, going to save his life?
If you believed you could save him, dumbass. Think outside of your ignorant box for a moment would you.
Maybe you might want to "practice what you preach" . I'm not well versed in Buddihst beliefs but let's just say according to his beliefs there is a after life. Why would you want to pewster him into disregarding what he believes to be the truth, especially if he believes your religion is nonsense?
If I believed it, yes.
And you wonder why many of those who aren't Christian find you Fundies oppressive and extremely annoying? Man you can't even let a person die in peace without trying force your beliefs don't their throats.

Jehovah Witnesses Come to mind....Worse then Goddamn Bill Collectors

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