Upgrading my AMD system

[Mustanggt]

Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

 

[o1die]

I wouldn't upgrade yet. You have a good sytem, except for the memory. I would try to get a good price on pc3200. Fry's had pny (2x512) for $69 recently after rebate. I've got about a dozen rebates from Fry's purchases. Haven't missed one yet. Only reason for dual core is video editing and encoding. Otherwise, it's a waste of money. I've seen a few posts about people that are disappointed going from dual core amd to duo core 2. It's only a 10-20% boost in performance, and only in some applications.

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

waite for AMD's 65nm, it's 20% faster than conroe. The 65nm is due in Dec.
You can upgrade to AM2 platform and be ready for K8L (65nm). The AM2 is upgradable to K8L. Core'2 will be obsolete in 3 months from now. Why waste money on them?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

waite for AMD's 65nm, it's 20% faster than conroe. The 65nm is due in Dec.
You can upgrade to AM2 platform and be ready for K8L (65nm). The AM2 is upgradable to K8L. Core'2 will be obsolete in 3 months from now. Why waste money on them?

You're an idiot and a troll. Moving to 65nm doesn't change the chip architecture to give a magic 60% boost in speed just like that.

Someone for the love of god BAN this asshat please!

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

waite for AMD's 65nm, it's 20% faster than conroe. The 65nm is due in Dec.
You can upgrade to AM2 platform and be ready for K8L (65nm). The AM2 is upgradable to K8L. Core'2 will be obsolete in 3 months from now. Why waste money on them?

You're an idiot and a troll. Moving to 65nm doesn't change the chip architecture to give a magic 60% boost in speed just like that.

Someone for the love of god BAN this asshat please!

wow, talking about denial. Just because K8L is going to violently rape your beloved conroe in 3-6 months from now does not call for my ban. The truth hurt that much?
Check these 2 links.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTE3NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware...-faster-Intel-cores-ftopict201715.html
There are so many other tech sites saying 40% faster than conroe. But I was gentle to you.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

waite for AMD's 65nm, it's 20% faster than conroe. The 65nm is due in Dec.
You can upgrade to AM2 platform and be ready for K8L (65nm). The AM2 is upgradable to K8L. Core'2 will be obsolete in 3 months from now. Why waste money on them?

Man, if brain cells were flashlights, you'd be walking around in a whole lotta dark.

 

[philiaC]

wut about intels quad core? lol.

 

[OcHungry]

These intel minutes were let out the caves after 4 years of crwaling on each other, now they have to herald back in again after 3-4 months. They cant stand it.
Enough said.
To OP, do your research and be careful what you spend money on.
Anandtech shows E6300 overclock to 2.6ghz on the average. That's is realistic. Not these moron's who want you to believe 3.5ghz. Just check around and see what kind of speed people can be stable at.
enough said. Go away conroe crips.

 

[996GT2]

Core 2 would be the way to go if you were building from scratch, but since you want to upgrade a Dual-Core X2 would be a nice boost in performance. Even the Low-Wattage models can be had for around $150 (3800+), and combined with some DDR2-800 and a bit of overclocking would give you quite a good performance increase.

 

[Keysplayr]

^^ Agreed!

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

waite for AMD's 65nm, it's 20% faster than conroe. The 65nm is due in Dec.
You can upgrade to AM2 platform and be ready for K8L (65nm). The AM2 is upgradable to K8L. Core'2 will be obsolete in 3 months from now. Why waste money on them?

1. 65nm is not 20% faster than anything...it doesn't effect speed at all (as Intel's doesn't). It allows for more transistors, higher clocks, and less power. (and eventually cheaper manufacturing)

2. Rev H (sometimes called K8L) will be out in Q2 (7-9 months from now).

3. Conroe will not be obsolete at all, though it will not solely own the high end anymore (JMHO). That said, we don't know if that's true or not...just as with Conroe in the 6 months of hoopla before release, it sounds great on paper but until we see one, paper makes a lousy system.

 

[harpoon84]

LOL there goes OcHungry again with his FUD.

Seriously, while it was funny in the beginning, it's starting to get old.

It's like trying to convince a lunatic the world isn't flat.

Are there any mods on these boards? This troll really deserves to get the boot.

 

[Mustanggt]

thanks for input but I think I am set on going over to intel might cost more to get the mobo but if i pick one that will take upgrades later sems better choice than sticking with a AMD or upgrading a dead platform.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Are you kidding me I have been reading reviews on core 2 duo and they are at least 40 % faster than a A64 3200 i dont have a X2 AMD, If I go with a Intel 975 x Mobo I can upgrade to the Quadro down the road.

People are saying you can keep your current mobo and RAM and just upgrade to an X2.

Sure, it won't be as fast as C2D, but it'll also cost a lot less than a platform switch.

If you switch to C2D you will obviously need a new mobo and DDR2 RAM.

 

[996GT2]

Lol I get the feelig OCHungry is a bit of a fanboy...o well, can't change everyone...

But yeah conroe is a lot faster than AM2 at the same clock speeds...and this is from personal experience after seeing the systems of 2 friends who just upgraded to Conroe.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: 996GT2
Lol I get the feelig OCHungry is a bit of a fanboy...o well, can't change everyone...

But yeah conroe is a lot faster than AM2 at the same clock speeds...and this is from personal experience after seeing the systems of 2 friends who just upgraded to Conroe.

A 'bit' is a huge understatement.

He refuses to believe that C2D is faster clock for clock, and thinks his X2 4400+ is a better choice for overclocking than an E6300/E6400.

He'll even compare 64bit results on his X2 4400+ to 32bit results on C2D to claim AMD is 'superior'.

Hehehe...

 

[Mustanggt]

Thanks for help everyone I might wait a month and see if AMD x2 prices drop if not I will go with conroe.

 

[996GT2]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: 996GT2
Lol I get the feelig OCHungry is a bit of a fanboy...o well, can't change everyone...

But yeah conroe is a lot faster than AM2 at the same clock speeds...and this is from personal experience after seeing the systems of 2 friends who just upgraded to Conroe.

A 'bit' is a huge understatement.

He refuses to believe that C2D is faster clock for clock, and thinks his X2 4400+ is a better choice for overclocking than an E6300/E6400.

He'll even compare 64bit results on his X2 4400+ to 32bit results on C2D to claim AMD is 'superior'.

Hehehe...

Well, at least he hasn't gotten to the level of Akshayt yet...a few months ago he was ravaging the Video forums with threads about his "X1900" sucking...

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Thanks for help everyone I might wait a month and see if AMD x2 prices drop if not I will go with conroe.

then dont comeback complaining about system beings buggy. check 47 erreta that may not get fixed.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Aug/bch20060824038244.htm

 

[harpoon84]

OMG more FUD!

So now that your X2 4400+ has been comprehensively proven to be slower than C2D, you go on about errata as if C2D is the ONLY CPU with errata.

*ALL* CPUs have errata, yes even your 'blessed by god' X2 4400+ has errata.

Hey look OcHungry, check out the errata page for the X2!

www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/25759.pdf

Theres 80 errata listed on the PDF!

OMG OMG OMG! Your X2 is gonna go BOOM and blow your head off! Watch out!!!

 

[harpoon84]

DP.

 

[kenji4life]

i prefer ffm, but if you like dp, that's your thing..

you said you have ddr533 ram? what brand? that is pretty fast if it's a good brand with good timings.. if that's the case i'd strongly recommend against upgrading to a DDR2 platform right now, ram is one of the things you'd have to buy and prices are insane right now. your best bet is to pick up the opteron 165 for your board which is on sale right now.. you do have a sckt 939 right?

if you game, a vidcard might be the best upgrade option (that is if you do have a 939 and pci-e)

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Hi I have been out of the loop for some time now on pc hardware, I was thinking about upgrading in the next few months I have been a amd for quite some time now but the way the core 2 duo is looking compared to amd picks one would have to jump over to intel for best bang for buck? any input on this ? I have a AMD64 3200 now. DDR 533 ram

The best bang for the buck in your case would be to upgrade your current system to a dual core X2. Converting to Conroe would be vastly more expensive, and while the Conroe is certainly faster in the high end you won't see your system leap up in speed (on average) relevant to the increased cost...
A new 939 X2 4800+ is only $280, and you can pay almost that much for just a good Conroe mobo...plus you won't need to get all new ram either.