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Regarding the security failures it would seem the top brass of the Capitol Police are not long for their jobs. I think it is inevitable that the building and campus will undergo major physical security upgrades and public access could be dramatically curtailed. It looks like they got in the building initially through regular windows then opened exterior doors for others. There has historically been a lot of interest in not altering too many aspects of the building's exterior but maybe invest in some reproduction windows made out of steel and thick ballistic glass.

I really don't see the problem with the police PRESUMING the police were actively emphasizing calling for extreme reinforcements.

I mean, they held the line for.... what? The first hour or 2 hours in that whole 6-8 hour debacle?

Full forces in shields + helmets + assault rifles should have been there in IDEALLY < 10 minutes - but full stop < 20 minutes. Period.
 

turtile

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PS This news conference is just TERRIBLE. A quote from DC police, "you can't have a riot until you have violence". Both of these F-ing morons need to go.

You do realize that our Mayor doesn't have any say in these matters. The Capitol complex is federal land, not DC land. She can not call in the National Guard without Trump's approval. This is all up to the feds not the city.

Why should my tax money cover this mess?
 
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Artorias

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I'm hearing that investigations have begun. This was definitely an inside job.

Another way of saying inside job is initiating a coup attempt. That's no joke. Imagine if Trump actually had a competent force?

Anyone involved in that should be jailed to the full extent of the law.
 
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theeedude

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The DC mayor is speaking now on tv about the lack of police, and asked why when she was warned about this might happen, she DID NOTHING. Sounds like we have a mayor about to resign under humiliation. GOOD RIDDANCE LADY. Her mishmash with explaining her failures sure sounds like those Trump excuses to me. She is probably a Trumpie.
Capitol Police, reports to the Traitor in Chief, not DC mayor. But you knew that, right?
 

Grey_Beard

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Capitol Police, reports to the Traitor in Chief, not DC mayor. But you knew that, right?

Capitol Police report to Congress, not the President.

Yes, they report to Congress which is why the 120 to 140 House members should be expelled. They had a role in this along with the 7 Senators. These folks were part of the siege. Never forget that. There must consequences for the officials who not only objected to the Electoral College count without evidence, have been spewing misinformation for years now and are saying after this insurrection that this was the terrorist group ANTIFA. I guess they should know because they were involved. Maybe they are the group called domestic terrorists. They should not qualify for public service if they do things detrimental to the public.
 

Grey_Beard

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Maybe censure may be the best route for this Wanna Be Tinpot Dictator. Even after he is gone, they should do something.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Has anyone seen any information about the other three people who died during the riot? Even given reasonable assumptions about the cardiac health of your average Trump supporter, it wouldn't be astounding to me that there would be three fatal heart attacks among them in the span of a few hours.

Unless the other three were “suicide” - meaning Hillary had them killed.

One fat fuck tazed himself and gave himself a heart attack. No really. Another fell off the wall trying to scale it. I don't know about the last deplorable corpse.
 

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"Mick Mulvaney to CNBC: "Those who choose to stay, and I have talked with some of them, are choosing to stay because they're worried the President might put someone worse in.” But I’ve talked to WH officials who chose to stay because they don’t want to lose their health insurance. "

IF ONLY THERE WAS A SOLUTION!
 

Zorba

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The DC mayor is speaking now on tv about the lack of police, and asked why when she was warned about this might happen, she DID NOTHING. Sounds like we have a mayor about to resign under humiliation. GOOD RIDDANCE LADY. Her mishmash with explaining her failures sure sounds like those Trump excuses to me. She is probably a Trumpie.
I just watched the whole conference, nothing wrong with anything she said.
 

turtile

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Yes, they report to Congress which is why the 120 to 140 House members should be expelled. They had a role in this along with the 7 Senators. These folks were part of the siege. Never forget that. There must consequences for the officials who not only objected to the Electoral College count without evidence, have been spewing misinformation for years now and are saying after this insurrection that this was the terrorist group ANTIFA. I guess they should know because they were involved. Maybe they are the group called domestic terrorists. They should not qualify for public service if they do things detrimental to the public.

The members don't have direct oversight. A board consisting of the Sergeant of Arms of the House and Senate along with the Architect of the Capitol has direct control.
 

Grey_Beard

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The members don't have direct oversight. A board consisting of the Sergeant of Arms of the House and Senate along with the Architect of the Capitol has direct control.

Thanks for clarifying. We should resist any concept without the facts. Much appreciated. I stand corrected on this matter, but hold to the other parts.
 
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Grey_Beard

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Speaker Pelosi just said that tRump should resign or the administration must start the actions of the 25th Amendment, as the House is poised to start impeachment proceedings if this does not happen.
 

hal2kilo

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One fat fuck tazed himself and gave himself a heart attack. No really. Another fell off the wall trying to scale it. I don't know about the last deplorable corpse.
I'm picturing some bubba doing more exercise than they've done in 6 mos, running up some stairs with his heart pounding and sweat pouring out of every orifice, then BAAM!
 

feralkid

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The DC mayor is speaking now on tv about the lack of police, and asked why when she was warned about this might happen, she DID NOTHING. Sounds like we have a mayor about to resign under humiliation. GOOD RIDDANCE LADY. Her mishmash with explaining her failures sure sounds like those Trump excuses to me. She is probably a Trumpie.


You do know the difference between the Capitol Police and DC Metro Police, right?
 
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