USB Thumb Drives

[imported_goku]

How do you get USB Thumb Drives to work in Windows 95 OSR2/Windows 98? Because I know Windows XP has generic drivers which is why it works seemlessly but the problem is, does Windows 2000 and Me have the same problem as 98/95OSR2? BTW I tried to look for drivers for them but to no avail!

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: goku2100
How do you get USB Thumb Drives to work in Windows 95 OSR2/Windows 98? Because I know Windows XP has generic drivers which is why it works seemlessly but the problem is, does Windows 2000 and Me have the same problem as 98/95OSR2? BTW I tried to look for drivers for them but to no avail!

dl drivers from their website?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: goku2100
How do you get USB Thumb Drives to work in Windows 95 OSR2/Windows 98? Because I know Windows XP has generic drivers which is why it works seemlessly but the problem is, does Windows 2000 and Me have the same problem as 98/95OSR2? BTW I tried to look for drivers for them but to no avail!

IIRC, they work without drivers in Windows 2000, Windows ME, and Windows XP.

 

[Anubis]

you need 98SE for USB useage no idea about win95

 

[WhiteWonder]

What brand is it?

 

[zerocool1]

Originally posted by: Anubis
you need 98SE for USB useage no idea about win95

won't work in 95 no usb support

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: zerocool1

Originally posted by: Anubis
you need 98SE for USB useage no idea about win95

won't work in 95 no usb support

thats what i thought but wasent positive


so pimple boi why are you still running win 95 i must ask you that

 

[imported_goku]

Well highschool drop out who lives at home because I have it install on one of my systems. If anyone read my post carefully I said Windows 95OSR2. What I did forget to mention is the intel usb driver supplement. I have many computers and some computers run better with other operating systems then others. Does that answer you question "my dick is too small to get women so I decided to switch to guys (macs)". Fcking looser.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Well highschool drop out who lives at home because I have it install on one of my systems. If anyone read my post carefully I said Windows 95OSR2. What I did forget to mention is the intel usb driver supplement. I have many computers and some computers run better with other operating systems then others. Does that answer you question "my dick is too small to get women so I decided to switch to guys (macs)". Fcking looser.

I didn't understand a word you just said

 

[viking1966]

will not work in win95 .. will work in win98 if you dl the drivers from the makers site.. should work in win98se and newer without dl..

 

[DJFuji]

there's a forum for this type of question. Hint: It's not OT and it's not Highly technical.

What's with the recent influx of noobs that don't read directions and troll around? Not saying you're trolling, but you ARE guilty of not reading directions...

 

[allisolm]

They work fine in ME with no drivers. Sadly, I know this because my computer uses ME and I'm too lazy to change it.

 

[Sid59]

win95 doesn't have USB support enabled but the few leaked versions of win95 do .. one of them is win95OSR2 .. prolly the best version of Win95.

You can always try the supplemental drivers, but i have no idea other than that.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: goku2100
How do you get USB Thumb Drives to work in Windows 95 OSR2/Windows 98? Because I know Windows XP has generic drivers which is why it works seemlessly but the problem is, does Windows 2000 and Me have the same problem as 98/95OSR2? BTW I tried to look for drivers for them but to no avail!

Every USB flash drive that I've seen, either includes a driver CD for Win98se, or instructs you to go to their web site to download drivers for it. I don't think that many (any?) work at all in Win95OSR2, even with the USB supplement. (I don't think that includes support for generic USB storage device-class devices.)

 

[imported_goku]

DJFuji there was a reason why I posted it on the off topic forum, I needed a quick response because I needed to get the USB drive workin since the FDD drive in the PC isnt workin. Problem is, it's a dell pen drive and I wasnt able to find anydrivers. Any help?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: goku2100
DJFuji there was a reason why I posted it on the off topic forum, I needed a quick response because I needed to get the USB drive workin since the FDD drive in the PC isnt workin.

Heh. Still doesn't belong there, and it's that kind of thinking that keeps the better forums from being busier.

Get a new floppy drive, or cannibalize out of another system. They're what? $3?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Well highschool drop out who lives at home because I have it install on one of my systems. If anyone read my post carefully I said Windows 95OSR2. What I did forget to mention is the intel usb driver supplement. I have many computers and some computers run better with other operating systems then others. Does that answer you question "my dick is too small to get women so I decided to switch to guys (macs). Fcking looser.

Is that supposed to be some kind of comment on how you believe that Apple Macintosh computers are homosexual?

 

[imported_goku]

Hey heres a concept, how about we stay on track and answer my question!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Hey heres a concept, how about we stay on track and answer my question!

Here's a concept, RTFT. It's been answered. Stop using dead operating systems, and you won't have to worry about it.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Well highschool drop out who lives at home because I have it install on one of my systems. If anyone read my post carefully I said Windows 95OSR2. What I did forget to mention is the intel usb driver supplement. I have many computers and some computers run better with other operating systems then others. Does that answer you question "my dick is too small to get women so I decided to switch to guys (macs)". Fcking looser.

:Q Well....someone is just SO friendly. If you have issues with that particular poster, you need to take it up via PM or regular email. What you did is not cool and not the way we behave here at Anandtech.

If you want help, act civilized.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: goku2100
Well highschool drop out who lives at home because I have it install on one of my systems. If anyone read my post carefully I said Windows 95OSR2. What I did forget to mention is the intel usb driver supplement. I have many computers and some computers run better with other operating systems then others. Does that answer you question "my dick is too small to get women so I decided to switch to guys (macs)". Fcking looser.

:Q Well....someone is just SO friendly. If you have issues with that particular poster, you need to take it up via PM or regular email. What you did is not cool and not the way we behave here at Anandtech.

If you want help, act civilized.

You may be asking too much of him.

 

[imported_goku]

Just because you can't appreciate old operating systems because your first computer had windows XP doesn't mean it's a "dead" operating system. It's people like you that make operating systems "dead". There is no reason why USB pen drives shouldn't work in Windows 95OSR2 if it has USB suppport. I really don't want to consider 3.1 dead but I have to because it's just so much different from operating systems now that it would require a complete overhaul to make it function like 95+. It's a simple question that I hope can be answered with a link to a site with drivers for Windows 95. Don't you see how they're trying to make Windows 98/Me Die but are having difficulty because of the fact it's advanced enough to keep up and so many people use it still. It's very odd to see microsoft try to kill of Me when its only 1 operating system away. It's fairly new and shows microsoft's devotion to its older software, I never liked Me but c'mon it's only 2001!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Just because you can't appreciate old operating systems because your first computer had windows XP doesn't mean it's a "dead" operating system.

The fact that Microsoft does not support it is what makes Win95 a dead OS. And I appreciate old OSes quite well.

It's people like you that make operating systems "dead".

That and the fact it has not grown.

There is no reason why USB pen drives shouldn't work in Windows 95OSR2 if it has USB suppport.

Very bad USB support. Does it support USB mass storage devices?

I really don't want to consider 3.1 dead but I have to because it's just so much different from operating systems now that it would require a complete overhaul to make it function like 95+.

95 is no more functional than win3.1. And neither are really OSes.

It's a simple question that I hope can be answered with a link to a site with drivers for Windows 95.

Unless, maybe, th ey don't exist. :Q

Don't you see how they're trying to make Windows 98/Me Die but are having difficulty because of the fact it's advanced enough to keep up and so many people use it still.

It has not advanced at all! It's the same bull Microsoft tried to get us into from the start. It's DOS with a prettier shell.

It's very odd to see microsoft try to kill of Me when its only 1 operating system away. It's fairly new and shows microsoft's devotion to its older software, I never liked Me but c'mon it's only 2001!

And there are better alternatives. 2k and XP are actually decent. DOS is dead. Give it up.

 

[n0cmonkey]

BTW, I can trace the origin of my favorite OS back to 1969. Can you do that with Windows 95?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Just because you can't appreciate old operating systems because your first computer had windows XP doesn't mean it's a "dead" operating system.

True. It is a dead OS, but not because XP ships on new computers. It's dead, because it has been surpassed by something that is clearly better.

Originally posted by: goku2100
t's people like you that make operating systems "dead".

Certainly. I still have a Win98se partition on this system, but I hardly ever boot to it anymore. Why? Because W2K is light-years better. So in that sense, yes, I'm helping to make Win9x dead, and I'm happy to do so. I end up benefitting in the end, too.

Originally posted by: goku2100
There is no reason why USB pen drives shouldn't work in Windows 95OSR2 if it has USB suppport.

I don't think that you get it. There are multiple levels and layers of "USB support". One layer is OS APIs, support for hot-plugging, etc. Another layer is the low-level drivers for both UHCI and OHCI controllers. Not to mention, USB 2.0 EHCI controllers. And then yet another level, is support for all of the various device classes in the USB standard, such as HID (Human Interface Devices), USB Mass Storage devices, and others.

Win98se, doesn't even support USB floppy drives, for example. It does support most USB HID devices. It *can* support USB flash-memory devices, *if* you download and install the driver off of a mfg's web site. But it doesn't have that support built-in.

Win95 OSR2, as an OS, came out *years before* Win98se did, and lacks USB support completely.

If you install the "USB supplement for OSR2", then you get part of the USB support equation - the OS will support the APIs necessary for USB support, along with basic support for some USB UHCI and OHCI controllers, and USB HID device-class support. Other devices classes are *still not supported*. Thus you need to seek out drivers for them. You could always try to install the Win98se drivers and pray, but Win98se supports WDM drivers, and Win95 OSR2 *does not*. Actually, now that I think about it, I think that USB device drivers are pretty-much WDM drivers (.SYS drivers) exclusively, because they reside in the \SYSTEM32 directory, even under Win98se. So that's a good reason why they might not be supported on Win95 OSR2.

Originally posted by: goku2100
I really don't want to consider 3.1 dead but I have to because it's just so much different from operating systems now that it would require a complete overhaul to make it function like 95+.

Uhm... DUH!

Likewise, Win95 OSR2 would require a complete overhaul, to make it function like Win98se. (Kernel modifications necessary for adding WDM driver support.)

So consider Win95 OSR2 dead too.

Originally posted by: goku2100
It's a simple question that I hope can be answered with a link to a site with drivers for Windows 95.

Somehow, I think that you are not quite getting this. *sigh*

Originally posted by: goku2100
Don't you see how they're trying to make Windows 98/Me Die but are having difficulty because of the fact it's advanced enough to keep up and so many people use it still.

This thread really wasn't about USB flash device support after all, was it? It's actually all just a vast conspiracy, we have all been brainwashed by BillG to kill Win98. :roll:

Originally posted by: goku2100
It's very odd to see microsoft try to kill of Me when its only 1 operating system away. It's fairly new and shows microsoft's devotion to its older software, I never liked Me but c'mon it's only 2001!

No, it's 2004. Get with the program. DOS (and now Win9x), are clearly D-E-A-D.


Edit: I decided to google for a Win95 OSR2 USB flash driver, if one exists. (I was curious myself, actually.) I didn't find one, but let me post a few relevant things that I found on a typical USB mfg's web site.

From http://www.jetflashusa.com/faq.asp

- Can JetFlash work in Windows 95 or NT?
No. Since Windows 95 and NT do not support USB devices, therefore, JetFlash and other USB devices cannot work under Windows 95 and NT environments.

- How about Win 95 OSR2? It supports USB devices.
Unfortunately, we do not develop driver for Win 95 OSR2. You need to upgrade to Win 98/98SE.

- Do you have DOS driver for JetFlash?
No, DOS environment does not support USB devices, thus JetFlash can't be used in DOS environment.