Vandals for Kerry!!

BEL6772

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I was walking through my neighborhood this last weekend. There are several homes that have signs up in their front yards, endorsing various candidates and ballot measures. As I walked I noticed that every Bush/Cheney sign had been vandalized. The plastic ones were cut apart, the more durable ones were defaced. Not one Kerry/Edwards sign showed any trace of damage.

That made me want to vote Bush just to seperate myself from the type of people that have such disregard and disrespect for their neighbors. Of course I'm mature enough to know that there are other, more important factors that will ultimately influence my vote, thankfully. But that childish, ignorant behavior really is unnecessary and more damaging (in my mind) to the Kerry cause than to the Bush cause.
 

ntdz

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i agree, vandalism is wrong, against either candidate. People have a right to their opinions and speech (in the form of signs/bumper stickers), and i respect those rights. However, I've seen a disturbing trend of Bush/Cheney signs and headquarters getting vandalized/robbed constantly. Says alot about those people.
 

Abraxas

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If by "those people" you mean Kerry supporters, it doesn't say much at all. If you are talking about the vandals in general I am inclined to agree. One house near where I live keeps getting the pro-Kerry sign stolen from in front of it. First it was a little yard sign and then it was a heavy wooden one that read "You can steal my sign but you can't steal my vote, Kerry/Edwards '04" As I recall, I think I saw on the news that someone knocked themselves out stealing a Kerry sign just recently. I think it goes on far too often on both sides.
 

shadowninja

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Geez, way to generalize about a group of people. Just because there's a few bad seeds, it doesn't make ALL of a group that way. It's like saying just because a particular race is statistically more prone to commit crimes that all of the people of that race are criminals.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: BEL6772
I was walking through my neighborhood this last weekend. There are several homes that have signs up in their front yards, endorsing various candidates and ballot measures. As I walked I noticed that every Bush/Cheney sign had been vandalized. The plastic ones were cut apart, the more durable ones were defaced. Not one Kerry/Edwards sign showed any trace of damage.

That made me want to vote Bush just to seperate myself from the type of people that have such disregard and disrespect for their neighbors. Of course I'm mature enough to know that there are other, more important factors that will ultimately influence my vote, thankfully. But that childish, ignorant behavior really is unnecessary and more damaging (in my mind) to the Kerry cause than to the Bush cause.

And of course, Bush signs are the only ones ever vandalized. Thanks for the objective 1st post. I'll share now. My folks who part their time between Michigan and Florida just left last week to return to Fla. Both of my folks are not well. One in a wheelchair and one on 24 hour oxygen. They live in a upper class republican neighborhood and 80% of the lawn signs are Bush I would say. Well, it took all of 1 day of them being on the road back to Fla for one of their neighbors to destroy the Kerry sign left on their lawn. No other Kerry signs were defaced on the block, I checked. Only my parents. I however, am mature enough not to blame the Bush camp as a whole, only the asshole coward who would destroy 2 elderly peoples Kerry lawn sign after they knew they had departed back to Fla. I would think you are mature enough to not blame Kerry and find it damaging to his cause because someone went around defacing Bush signs in YOUR neighborhood? Maybe not.
 

jtusa

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Originally posted by: shadowninja
Geez, way to generalize about a group of people. Just because there's a few bad seeds, it doesn't make ALL of a group that way. It's like saying just because a particular race is statistically more prone to commit crimes that all of the people of that race are criminals.

It's just like calling someone a neocon because they aren't voting for Kerry!

Fvcking libs....
 

Chris A

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Good Grief does a lawn sign really matter???

Perhaps in citty hall elections where the people are less known... Here it matters little other then pointing out whom you are voteing for.
 

shadowninja

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Originally posted by: jtusa4
It's just like calling someone a neocon because they aren't voting for Kerry!

I guess you see the point! Liberal, conservative, both sides wrongly make these generalization. Point being, one shouldn't think someone's cause is represented by a few that go to an extreme.

Fvcking libs....

I guess you missed the point.
 

Rainsford

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Oh...my...God. This must be some kind of joke. I can't believe you guys are still trying to characterize Kerry supporters as vandals. I mean let's assume you're right and most vandals are Kerry supporters, how can you turn that around and say most Kerry supporters are vandals? That's obviously terrible logic...you don't have anything close to a large enough sample size. You go out and search for cases involving vandalism done to Bush supporters, gather up a bunch of them, and claim this is a "disturbing trend". You've got to be sh!tting me.

But this seems like a fun game...let me give it a try! I've noticed a number of dogs that have bit people lately, so I'm going to conclude that all dogs bite people. Keep in mind I've only seen a tiny percentage of the total dogs worldwide, and honestly I've been keeping a special eye out for dogs that bit someone and sort of ignoring the rest of them. But I have a rock solid argument, because some dogs bit people. Fvcking dogs!

Are you people (Bush supporters on the "Kerry supporters are vandals" bandwagon) THAT dumb?
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: jtusa4
Originally posted by: shadowninja
Geez, way to generalize about a group of people. Just because there's a few bad seeds, it doesn't make ALL of a group that way. It's like saying just because a particular race is statistically more prone to commit crimes that all of the people of that race are criminals.

It's just like calling someone a neocon because they aren't voting for Kerry!

Fvcking libs....

I don't think he said anyone was a neocon, he was pointing out that characterizing an entire group based on a few people is silly...obviously YOU seem to have missed the point, as shadowninja pointed out.
 

CycloWizard

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As someone who just voted for Bush, I freely admit that both sides are equally as guilty. There shouldn't even be a discussion on this issue.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: shadowninja
Originally posted by: jtusa4
It's just like calling someone a neocon because they aren't voting for Kerry!

I guess you see the point! Liberal, conservative, both sides wrongly make these generalization. Point being, one shouldn't think someone's cause is represented by a few that go to an extreme.

Fvcking libs....

I guess you missed the point.

I wouldn't worry about it, someone who says with all seriousness that vandals represent the new generation of liberals obviously does not WANT to get it.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
As someone who just voted for Bush, I freely admit that both sides are equally as guilty. There shouldn't even be a discussion on this issue.

THANK YOU...we need more people on both sides to step up when "issues" like this come up, they don't represent the majority on either side and just waste time.
 

Steeplerot

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1000's of people dead and their worried about their yard signs the teenagers are vandalizing... wtf did you all do when you were kids?
 

BEL6772

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As I said, "I'm mature enough to know that there are other, more important factors that will ultimately influence my vote". I also realize that there are probably an equal number of vandalized signs on both sides of this election.

I know that judging Kerry by a neighborhood vandal that supports him is grossly unfair. I also know that that was my initial, emotional reaction to what I saw. I just thought it was interesting that the effect on the observer was exactly opposite to what the perpetrator had in mind.

 

assemblage

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There has also been a rash of b&e, grand larceny and vandalism on small Bush campaign headquarters across the nation. I also saw the disregard for others during protests at the RNC. Police are forced to come out as an army to protect cities from another Seattle. Then they are baited to make arrests so they can be photographed as the "awful and evil" police beating up on the "weak and innocent" protestors.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BEL6772
Topic Title: Vandals for Kerry!!

Awwwww poor Neocons.


If it was Kerry's signs getting trashed you'd be gloating, but you won't admit that.

Did it ever occur to you that it is a sign of how pissed off people are at the current Regime???

Not condoning vandalism but take it for what it is worth or would you rather see an all out Revolution???
 

Darkhawk28

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Please complain to the dozen or so cars during my hometown's homecoming parade that had their windows smashed in because they had Kerry stickers in them.
 

TBone77

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Originally posted by: shadowninja
Geez, way to generalize about a group of people. Just because there's a few bad seeds, it doesn't make ALL of a group that way. It's like saying just because a particular race is statistically more prone to commit crimes that all of the people of that race are criminals.

I don't support profiling of any kind, but you can't completely dismiss such trends...
 
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