Venice OCing thread!

[Painman]

OK I'm back, couldn't get on much yesterday but I saw the 1T/2T discussion and I've tried that out. Results: Squat, this chip is still topping out at 2560 or so on the voltage I'm willing to give it, and under all conditions I've tested with, including 3-4-4-10 2T timings with 1/2 divider. So I'm satisfied that I've found the chip's ceiling and I'm sticking a fork in it.

I'm sticking a fork in this thread too - I'm not going to have the time I'd hoped to keep this as up to date as I wanted. Feel free to keep using it as a place to throw ideas around and troubleshoot, that's what it's more or less turned in to, I think now that it's too early to start trying to collect masses of hard data anyway while there's the real possibility that people's MB, RAM, BIOS, etc. are interacting badly with the chips. This thread has to be one thing or the other - a data repository, or a hashing out process - it can't be both.

Many thanks to those who took the time to test and record their results, and none to those who saw fit to sit back and contribute insolence and insult... you know who you are.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: Duvie
....3700+ may be for me....Does anyone know if they will produce a 3500+ SD chip???

i'm trying to find out the same. i heard rumors of it and asked over at dfi.street after one of their mods mentioned it but nothing more than that. if not i'll get the probably get the 3700.

 

[WA261]

Ughh...I am not sure of my stepping, as it is installed and I did not write it down.
Anyway, I am at 3.25Ghz @ 1.7v on my Mach II. Will try and get stepping.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: WA261
Ughh...I am not sure of my stepping, as it is installed and I did not write it down.
Anyway, I am at 3.25Ghz @ 1.7v on my Mach II. Will try and get stepping.

just look up in cpu-z it shows the stepping
unless of course your definition of stepping is different than cpu-z which comes straight from the manufacturer. The manufacturer and the industry at large defines stepping as a minor revision, and not as what you refer to which is just a production series code (e.g. a grouping of serial numbers based on time and location). Feel free to refer to it however you want just bear in mind that officially stepping is what cpu-z shows.

 

[NINaudio]

I'll be seeing what I can do with 2T timings sometime later on tonight. Will post here with my results.

 

[dhoytw]

Originally posted by: rise4310

Originally posted by: Duvie
....3700+ may be for me....Does anyone know if they will produce a 3500+ SD chip???

i'm trying to find out the same. i heard rumors of it and asked over at dfi.street after one of their mods mentioned it but nothing more than that. if not i'll get the probably get the 3700.

To answer you both above...no it will be introduced at 3700+. I think I saw a rumor about a 3500+ coming out as well, but that's a buncha crap. The prices for preorder I have seen for the 3700+ are right around $370 so that's not too bad at all anyway.

 

[GRIdpOOL]

Originally posted by: user1234
Ok, how about a single line that looks like this:

CPU/Mobo FSBxMult=Speed @Vcore Mem speed (divider) latency Vdimm

for example my winchester info:
3000+/A8N-SLI 267x9=2400 @1.58V mem 220 (5/6) 2.5-3-3-7-1T @2.7V

You are correct. This is the way we need the information. Memory timings mean a lot, as stated in several reviews on this site. Low latency and tight timings are better than a few more MHZ in clock speed. You just have to compromise. I vote for showing the brand of memory used as well. This will help users know what to expect from actual memory. That's just what I would like to see.

 

[arcenite]

Venice 3200+ on Air (XP-120 w/ Coolermaster Ultra Silent)
LBBLE 0516EPGW

Priming as we speak at 10x255 @ Default Voltages.

Thanks MonarchJoe

 

[Zebo]

Many thanks to those who took the time to test and record their results, and none to those who saw fit to sit back and contribute insolence and insult... you know who you are.

You quittin for some ribbin? Better not lots of good results coming in here.:thumbsup:


Folks screens would be nice too like at least superpi 32m.

So far it's looks Venice is averaging about 2650 air, only slightly better than Winch..Im holding off my upgrade till more results are in. But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

 

[Avalon]

*crosses fingers for Venice to arrive tomorrow*

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: NINaudio
How about some more details?

Here are all the details you need about dhoytw
The infamous "My PC is cold with solution" thread

I think he needs to go back on his meds :roll:

 

[hippotautamus]

If your PSUs 12v rail is the problem, would you perhaps be better off with a dual rail PSU? Ie one with an 18a rail and a 15a rail? Or would you want one with a single 30ish amp rail?

 

[PClark99]

CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: LBBLE 0515FPAW
CPU Serial Number: 2634404D50577

I just got this CPU this afternoon and have not had too much time to play with it yet, ie, run Prime or SuperPi. Just playing some games, this processor seems to work fine at 250x10 at 1.42V actual and 250x11 at 1.55V actual.

 

[cpush]

...But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

explain please. My budget for a processor is 200 MAX. so 3500 is not an option, im debating between the 3000 and 3200 venice cores and have heard arguments both ways

 

[hippotautamus]

I'd get the 3200+ as I plan to do. The extra multiplier can be quite important if you choose to overclock with cheap ram, as you will be able to run the ram slower and still get good CPU speed. If you're getting nice expensive ram, though, you might as well get the 3000+ and spend the extra money on a better PSU or something.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
I'd get the 3200+ as I plan to do. The extra multiplier can be quite important if you choose to overclock with cheap ram, as you will be able to run the ram slower and still get good CPU speed. If you're getting nice expensive ram, though, you might as well get the 3000+ and spend the extra money on a better PSU or something.

:thumbsup:

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: cpush

...But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

explain please. My budget for a processor is 200 MAX. so 3500 is not an option, im debating between the 3000 and 3200 venice cores and have heard arguments both ways

Before, back when people were thinking these chips would hit 2800-3000 mhz, a 10x found inside 3200 was desirable because many boards and mem controller on chip has problems with high htt nessesary to get to those overclocks using a 3000 or 9x. like 333HTT!!! since they seem to only be hitting 2650 all you need is ~295 HTT (295 x 9 = 2650) which should'nt be a problem for many boards or mem controller.

Save your money. Get 3000. Maybe buy something better like upgrade videocard with difference..

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: cpush

...But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

explain please. My budget for a processor is 200 MAX. so 3500 is not an option, im debating between the 3000 and 3200 venice cores and have heard arguments both ways

I'd only get the 3000+ if you were pairing it with a DFI NF4 motherboard. Anything else I wouldn't trust to consistently reach 300HTT (which is what you'll need for 2.7ghz on that 3000+).

Of course, grabbing a cheaper s939 NF3 board with a 3200+ would most likely balance out the pricing of the first option.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
I'd get the 3200+ as I plan to do. The extra multiplier can be quite important if you choose to overclock with cheap ram, as you will be able to run the ram slower and still get good CPU speed. If you're getting nice expensive ram, though, you might as well get the 3000+ and spend the extra money on a better PSU or something.

??? what dividers don't work with a 3000:roll:

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: cpush

...But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

explain please. My budget for a processor is 200 MAX. so 3500 is not an option, im debating between the 3000 and 3200 venice cores and have heard arguments both ways

I'd only get the 3000+ if you were pairing it with a DFI NF4 motherboard. Anything else I wouldn't trust to consistently reach 300HTT (which is what you'll need for 2.7ghz on that 3000+).

Of course, grabbing a cheaper s939 NF3 board with a 3200+ would most likely balance out the pricing of the first option.

That's a given. No other board should be on peoples list period

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Many thanks to those who took the time to test and record their results, and none to those who saw fit to sit back and contribute insolence and insult... you know who you are.

You quittin for some ribbin? Better not lots of good results coming in here.:thumbsup:


Folks screens would be nice too like at least superpi 32m.

So far it's looks Venice is averaging about 2650 air, only slightly better than Winch..Im holding off my upgrade till more results are in. But if you need definity don't buy the 3200 as it's just wasted since you don't need 10x

Nah Z, it's not that, my skin ain't that thin I think a lot of us, you and myself included, expected these chips to do better than they have so far, and the fact that they didn't has shifted the focus of this thread a lot. It's become a dicussion of mobos and BIOS revisions, RAM brands, timings and other externals, and that's fine - these are going to be issues with some of these OCs for a while and that all has to be hashed out. Maybe in a couple weeks we'll have a lot of this external crap sorted out with new BIOS revisions, etc.l and we'll have a lot more ATers with the chips in their boxes too, so we'll be in a better position to get the data this thread was originally intended for.

 

[hippotautamus]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
I'd get the 3200+ as I plan to do. The extra multiplier can be quite important if you choose to overclock with cheap ram, as you will be able to run the ram slower and still get good CPU speed. If you're getting nice expensive ram, though, you might as well get the 3000+ and spend the extra money on a better PSU or something.

??? what dividers don't work with a 3000:roll:

Fair enough, lol.

 

[NINaudio]

Just a quick update, I'm still running Prime to test for stability, but I am testing now at:

2915 (265X11) @1.61v, 1:1 Ram 2.5-3-3-10@ 2TI tried 2948, but I would get a BSOD, so just backed it off a bit.

 

[user1234]

if you instantly BSOD at 2948 you will PSOD (prime SOD) after a while at 2915. Only 2850 or so will be stable

 

[The Sauce]

Yak! These overclocking results are abysmal. My expectations were way too high. Still no good reason to upgrady my Mobile XP 2400 @ 2.4 GHz. That $70 chip is lasting a hella-long time.

Maybe there will be some batches that will o/c better in the future.