Venting about the neighbors

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child of wonder

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Sorry to not join the crowd, but it IS one side of the story. Not saying you're a liar, but the simple fact is that it's irresponsible to pass judgement without hearing both sides of an argument. We don't know you from the man in the moon, the parents may have been looking for reasons to dissociate themselves from you because of other activities. Maybe your kids are completely out of control little hell raisers, but you don't see it as a problem because you're the one letting it go on. I have a coworker like this, nice guy, seemingly normal, his kids are TERRIBLE. I'm sure he wonders why other parents don't want his kids around theirs, either.

Our children can be very, very difficult at times. Our daughter is in her "independence" stage where she feels all rules are optional. I know the gum incident was not her first instance of disobeying rules at their house since the wife also mentioned playing the hose and riding bike on the grass.

I just wish they had mentioned this stuff to us in the past when it happened. At least give us a chance to correct the behavior and then if nothing changes I would completely understand banning our daughter from their yard.

Instead they decided to be passive-aggressive, yell at her, banish her, and then not talk to us about it.

Triumph said:
Or there is the religious thing, in all possibility they are extreme Mormons/Lutherans/Baptists/Snake Church folks and don't want their kids mixing with the unsaved.

Jews go to "church" (temple) on Saturdays. Catholics go to church on Sunday mornings just like everyone else, unless it's a Saturday evening mass for convenience.

They're Catholic. My daughter just told me that their daughter says they can go to church on Saturday or Sunday. That seems Catholic to me.
 

lokiju

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Neighbors are often odd it seems. We have a family right across the street. When we moved in we became pretty friendly. They are around our age. We didn't have kids and they didn't either.

Guy was a private business owner and doing pretty well at it. Wife added to the income with doing some photo shoots for families and weddings.

We hung out and had meals together at least a few times a week. Went to movies. Even went on a small vacation one weekend.

All seemed well then the husband decided he didn't like working for himself and not having a steady paycheck and no insurance any longer. So he got a job with a retail store.

Within weeks of starting this job it was like we weren't cool enough to be associated with anymore. We're all 30+ and he's working with people typically 5 to 10 years younger and guess he wanted to fit in.

Damn shame. Never a explanation or nothing. Just like we got dropped and that was it.

Worst part is shortly after he went to this retail job and we're still thinking we might be friends a little, they tell us they're pregnant.

A few months after that is when my wife confirms she's pregnant.

Fast forward to now. Our son is 2.5 and their son is 3.

We go for a walk last Friday evening around the neighborhood to enjoy the weather and when we pass by their house the husband is outside with his son and my son just walks up and starts playing with their son.

We play nice, make small talk, catch up a bit while our kids play.

His wife gets home from work shortly after and joins in all the while the kids are playing and having a blast.

Next thing you know we probably hung out there for an hour before needing to head back home to feed my kid.

Next day my son keeps trying to find reasons to get my wife and I outside and then keeps trying to go over there to find his new buddy to play.

Hard to explain to a 2.5 year old that it was a fluke and likely to not happen again.

Just seems weird and dumb when our sons could of been playing together all this time are right across the street from each other.

Oh well.
 

waggy

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Our children can be very, very difficult at times. Our daughter is in her "independence" stage where she feels all rules are optional. I know the gum incident was not her first instance of disobeying rules at their house since the wife also mentioned playing the hose and riding bike on the grass.

I just wish they had mentioned this stuff to us in the past when it happened. At least give us a chance to correct the behavior and then if nothing changes I would completely understand banning our daughter from their yard.

Instead they decided to be passive-aggressive, yell at her, banish her, and then not talk to us about it.



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shrug if your child is not respecting the rules i can understand why they said for her not to come over. They may have mentioned it but you may have not understood what they were getting at or ignored it. we really don't know.

" Our daughter is in her "independence" stage where she feels all rules are optional" leads me to believe she has had other issues at other places.

so why should they put up with it?

i do not allow 2 kids in the area to come over. Why? they don't fallow my rules (granted spitting her gum on the grass while rude seems kinda silly to be the last issue)
 

child of wonder

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shrug if your child is not respecting the rules i can understand why they said for her not to come over. They may have mentioned it but you may have not understood what they were getting at or ignored it. we really don't know.

" Our daughter is in her "independence" stage where she feels all rules are optional" leads me to believe she has had other issues at other places.

so why should they put up with it?

i do not allow 2 kids in the area to come over. Why? they don't fallow my rules (granted spitting her gum on the grass while rude seems kinda silly to be the last issue)

I agree. If she's not following their rules then they are well within their right to tell her she can't come over.

My beef is that they've never mentioned any behavior issues to us in the past. We certainly wouldn't ignore it if they did.

Also, their daughter has been in our yard causing mischief, too. But she would have to do something pretty drastic for me to yell at her "you cannot come over here ever again" and make no attempt to speak to her parents about it.

I may not agree with their decision but I'll respect it.
 

7window

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You should respect your neighbors wishes. They might be too busy at work to worry about whats going on at home. They don't want to deal with small issues at home. Just saying...


One thing I noticed about going to peoples home is that the cleaver day are long gone.
 

Sluggo

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Maybe the guy just had a bad day, why not give it a bit and see what happens.

Of course some of ATOT has already branded him a religious nut, racist and believes that he beats his wife and kids.
 

child of wonder

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Maybe the guy just had a bad day, why not give it a bit and see what happens.

Of course some of ATOT has already branded him a religious nut, racist and believes that he beats his wife and kids.

The guy was yelling at the kids but it was the wife that banished our daughter forever.
 

Perknose

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The wife answers and seems exacerbated to see us, as if she was bracing herself for an argument. We told her that our daughter told us what happened and we came over to apologize.

Sorry for your neighbor troubles, OP, you and your wife seem like entirely reasonable people, albeit with "cantankerous and stubborn" kids including a daughter "in her 'independence' stage where she feels all rules are optional."

It's a shame your neighbors couldn't be more reasonable and understanding as well, but . . . their lawn, their rules . . . and their lives, which they are heartily entitled to endure.

Crappy situation, I feel for you and your daughter.

However, I feel I must honor the OT tradition of blindsiding the OP with unexpected criticism, by pointing out that you whiffed in your use of "exacerbated" as an adverb, which it is not. It is solely a transitive verb. You cannot feel or seem exacerbated.

Furthermore, in proper English usage, even in its sole use as a transitive verb, a person is never its object, i.e., a person is never exacerbated. Only the situation a person is in can be exacerbated.

In summation:

Sally was exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
Sally felt exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
The situation Sally was in was exacerbated by Perk, the tedious Grammar Nazi. <---- Correct-o-mundo!
 

child of wonder

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Sorry for your neighbor troubles, OP, you and your wife seem like entirely reasonable people, albeit with "cantankerous and stubborn" kids including a daughter "in her 'independence' stage where she feels all rules are optional."

It's a shame your neighbors couldn't be more reasonable and understanding as well, but . . . their lawn, their rules . . . and their lives, which they are heartily entitled to endure.

Crappy situation, I feel for you and your daughter.

However, I feel I must honor the OT tradition of blindsiding the OP with unexpected criticism, by pointing out that you whiffed in your use of "exacerbated" as an adverb, which it is not. It is solely a transitive verb. You cannot feel or seem exacerbated.

Furthermore, in proper English usage, even in its sole use as a transitive verb, a person is never its object, i.e., a person is never exacerbated. Only the situation a person is in can be exacerbated.

In summation:

Sally was exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
Sally felt exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
The situation Sally was in was exacerbated by Perk, the tedious Grammar Nazi. <---- Correct-o-mundo!

Ja wohl, mein Grammar Fuhrer!!!
 

Stuxnet

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We have a neighbor like that down the street. Not quite the same story, but the end result is the same: they've completely alienated themselves from the rest of the street. The husband is a Grade A pussy and his wife is certifiably insane. They've had blow up after blow up with neighbor after neighbor, and now their kids have just as many friends as they do: 0.

The wife has taken her psychosis to the school where one of our other neighbors - and good friend - volunteers. She's making her life a living hell. Several of us have considered filing for restraining orders / harassment over what has transpired (and continues to transpire).

It's amazing how one stupid, shitty, narcissistic neighbor can infest a neighborhood.
 
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Murloc

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your view of your kids is not objective. It doesn't matter if they're good kids in their hearth, it's the behaviour.
I think that spitting a gum on the grass is wrong, but you can spit it in a bush.
Biking on the grass is okay only if it's dry, because if it's wet, it will mess up the grass.

Besides, I'd never buy a home that doesn't have a fenced garden. But I live in a different country, there is almost no green property left unfenced and people tend to be more reserved.
In fact, I don't even know my neighbours.
 

Zargon

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1:You should respect your neighbors wishes. They might be too busy at work to worry about whats going on at home. They don't want to deal with small issues at home. Just saying...


2:One thing I noticed about going to peoples home is that the cleaver day are long gone.

1: he is respecting it, he has said it like 6 times


2: eh, its not all dead. I'll drink a beer with most of my neighbors(even if I dont like them that much) just to be civil. traded keys with my next door neighbors that we trust.
 

TecHNooB

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Make sure your daughter becomes super popular, hot, and athletic. Wait until daughters meet again in highschool. Profit.
 
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