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AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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Sorry for your neighbor troubles, OP, you and your wife seem like entirely reasonable people, albeit with "cantankerous and stubborn" kids including a daughter "in her 'independence' stage where she feels all rules are optional."

It's a shame your neighbors couldn't be more reasonable and understanding as well, but . . . their lawn, their rules . . . and their lives, which they are heartily entitled to endure.

Crappy situation, I feel for you and your daughter.

However, I feel I must honor the OT tradition of blindsiding the OP with unexpected criticism, by pointing out that you whiffed in your use of "exacerbated" as an adverb, which it is not. It is solely a transitive verb. You cannot feel or seem exacerbated.

Furthermore, in proper English usage, even in its sole use as a transitive verb, a person is never its object, i.e., a person is never exacerbated. Only the situation a person is in can be exacerbated.

In summation:

Sally was exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
Sally felt exacerbated by the situation. <---- Wrong.
The situation Sally was in was exacerbated by Perk, the tedious Grammar Nazi. <---- Correct-o-mundo!

Perk, your grammar fixation can be so exasperating!
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Perk, your grammar fixation can be so exasperating!

Only a true friend tells you when you have spinach in your teeth.

A little bit of spinach there matters not one whit in the grander scheme of things, either, but, tell me, wouldn't you want to know?

Well?

If someone says the capitol of Oregon is Pittsburg, or that Packard Bell computers were the premium brand of their time, is your first impulse to remain silent? I mean, the correct answer doesn't really matter, does it? It won't impact your life, or anyone else's, in any measurable manner. Yet my guess is that you wouldn't remain silent. And if you wouldn't, please pause for a moment to reflect on why you wouldn't. Then you might begin to know how I feel about the English language.
 
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AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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Only a true friend tells you when you have spinach in your teeth.

A little bit of spinach there matters not one whit in the grander scheme of things, either, but, tell me, wouldn't you want to know?

Well?

You're exacerbating my exasperation.

 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Woo hoo I can't wait to have neighbors!

lol i had a bad bad set of neighbors (do a search its great!) but i also have some damn good neighbors.

on one side (well there is a very small post office between us. but he owns the yard that buts up against mine) i have a 23 yr old kid. he is very nice. i gave him a extra rideing lawn mower i had (a 42 inch torro i hated) so the kid now mows my yard if i don't get to it. also he has cut down a dieing tree and offered to trim the others. BTW he did all of that BEFORE i gave him the mower.

down the road again i have some wonderful neighbors. actually only one family i have issues with in the whole town.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Hate to say it but if your little snotnoses don't know it's rude to spit their gum out, I don't want them in my yard either and I have free candy.
 

7window

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1: he is respecting it, he has said it like 6 times


2: eh, its not all dead. I'll drink a beer with most of my neighbors(even if I dont like them that much) just to be civil. traded keys with my next door neighbors that we trust.


case closed. next
 

child of wonder

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Aug 31, 2006
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Here's an interesting consequence of the neighbor's rule.

The bus stop for our neighborhood is at the end of the the neighbors' driveway and every morning our children, the neighbor's oldest daughter, and 3 other kids wait for the bus. As they wait, they run around, play tag, etc. Well, thanks to the neighbors' banishment, our children have to stand there on the sidewalk while all the other kids run around and play on the neighbors' yard.

We're going to have another chat with the neighbors about this new rule and ask that they consider allowing our kids to run around on their driveway while waiting for the bus. It's really sad to see our two children stand there on the sidewalk excluded from all the fun the other kids are having.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Here's an interesting consequence of the neighbor's rule.

The bus stop for our neighborhood is at the end of the the neighbors' driveway and every morning our children, the neighbor's oldest daughter, and 3 other kids wait for the bus. As they wait, they run around, play tag, etc. Well, thanks to the neighbors' banishment, our children have to stand there on the sidewalk while all the other kids run around and play on the neighbors' yard.

We're going to have another chat with the neighbors about this new rule and ask that they consider allowing our kids to run around on their driveway while waiting for the bus. It's really sad to see our two children stand there on the sidewalk excluded from all the fun the other kids are having.

i would.

but i would also wait a week. Make the kids understand because she can't fallow his rules there are consequences. Not being able to get on his lawn and play is one. maybe it will sink in.
 

Perknose

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i would.

but i would also wait a week. Make the kids understand because she can't fallow his rules there are consequences. Not being able to get on his lawn and play is one. maybe it will sink in.

Then ask, in as non-confrontative and even humble and straight from the heart manner as you can.

Then, if they say no, film your kids being sadly excluded and see if you can interest one of your local TV affiliates in this "human interest" story. Media whoring can have its uses.
 

Stuxnet

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At this point I would honestly just let my kids play. That comes with the territory of accepting your property as the bus stop. At least in my area, the school must ask you if it's okay to use your house as the stop, and you understand that there will be kids playing in front of your house, in your yard, etc. If they have a problem with it at that point, tell them to call the school and cry to someone else. I think you've been more than agreeable. Some hardasses just can't be reasoned with, so don't.
 

BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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A first-world problem if ever I've heard one. Next time will you complain about the trashmen leaving empty cans in your driveway?

Seriously, some people just aren't compatible with those outside their circle, just because you live next to each other they should make an exception? Feign interest in your family? Make it a big deal about it by coming to your door with apple pie to discuss what *they* see in *your* kids and how it conflicts with the rules they live by on their property, possibly indirectly questioning your parenting skills in the process? Probably could have been handled better by them, and they do seem like hardass religious zealots which isn't my cup of tea, but as far as neighbors go if that's the nastiest encounter you've had consider yourself fortunate.
 
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child of wonder

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At this point I would honestly just let my kids play. That comes with the territory of accepting your property as the bus stop. At least in my area, the school must ask you if it's okay to use your house as the stop, and you understand that there will be kids playing in front of your house, in your yard, etc. If they have a problem with it at that point, tell them to call the school and cry to someone else. I think you've been more than agreeable. Some hardasses just can't be reasoned with, so don't.

If they take a stance that they don't want our kids even on their driveway while waiting for the bus stop then I'll tell them I'm going to ask the school to move the bus stop to our driveway.
 

cuppkake

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Sounds like a good consequence for your kids for not listening the first time the neighbors scolded them.
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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If they take a stance that they don't want our kids even on their driveway while waiting for the bus stop then I'll tell them I'm going to ask the school to move the bus stop to our driveway.

LOL

I think you should do this anyway.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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Sounds like you handled it alright. What can you do? You live next to dicks. Kids do kid stuff. Lawns are supposed to be ridden on with bikes, trees are meant to be climbed on, and AFAIC, the ground is a fine place for gum as long as it's outside of foot traffic. Your neighbors are unreasonable weirdos.

I don't agree with this. I wouldn't want kids riding their bikes on my lawn or spitting gum anywhere but a garbage can. Banning kids is pretty harsh though.
 

Via

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Jan 14, 2009
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When things deteriorate this badly it's definitely time for a tall privacy fence.

Just make sure it doesn't touch their property or they'll wait for you to build it and then tell you to tear it down.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I don't agree with this. I wouldn't want kids riding their bikes on my lawn or spitting gum anywhere but a garbage can. Banning kids is pretty harsh though.

sounds like he is a guy that doesn't own any decent property.

There is a reason many places (like Disney) ban all chewing gum from being sold anywhere on premises.
 

Sluggo

Lifer
Jun 12, 2000
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If they take a stance that they don't want our kids even on their driveway while waiting for the bus stop then I'll tell them I'm going to ask the school to move the bus stop to our driveway.

You should make yourself a little roadmap of actionable items, completely detailing every possible action of your neighbor, then list every possible action you can take to counteract it.
 
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