VERY DISTURBING: Chimeric Experiments

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UzairH

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Wow I can't believe how callous and uncorned some of you sound. C'mon people this is serious. Imagine a human brain inside a chimp. Like the article says, would that chimp be a human with all the associated rights?
 

UzairH

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Wow I can't believe how callous and uncorned some of you sound. C'mon people this is serious. Imagine a human brain inside a chimp. Like the article says, would that chimp be a human with all the associated rights?
 

QueBert

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anyone remember the C64 game chimeras?

the intro has speech "Chimera!" it sounded evil as fvck. was an interesting game though
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: UzairH
Wow I can't believe how callous and uncorned some of you sound. C'mon people this is serious. Imagine a human brain inside a chimp. Like the article says, would that chimp be a human with all the associated rights?

that would be so freaking cool!
 

CyraKrin

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anyone else thinking of the professors chimp on futurama? I'm all for science for the betterment of mankind, but the only hybrids I want to see are the ones on the highways.
 

BespinReactorShaft

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Actaeon
I foresee Trigens in our future!

LOL...i was thinking that, myself...i just beat that game yesterday

Not meaning to nitpick, but didn't they simply inject some strength-enhancement serum into apes and humans? The mutation was intra-species, not inter-species.
 

mobobuff

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Originally posted by: CyraKrin
anyone else thinking of the professors chimp on futurama? I'm all for science for the betterment of mankind, but the only hybrids I want to see are the ones on the highways.

Gunther... he was annoying as hell.

"All he managed to turn in was a paper smeared with feces.... he tied with Fry."
 

rh71

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Dark Angel, season 2.

I can tell you how this will all end... and it's not gonna be pretty.
 
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Originally posted by: UzairH
The experiments are designed to advance medical research. Indeed, a growing number of genetic engineers argue that human-animal hybrids will usher in a golden era of medicine. Researchers say that the more humanised they can make research animals, the better able they will be to model the progression of human diseases, test new drugs, and harvest tissues and organs for transplantation. What they fail to mention is that there are equally promising and less invasive alternatives to these bizarre experiments, including computer modeling, in vitro tissue culture, nanotechnology, and prostheses to substitute for human tissue and organs.
Less invasive to whom? They consider artificial prostheses less invasive then these hybrid experiments? I can't imagine that computer modeling is equally promising to working with tissue that looks and behaves exactly like human tissue. Nanotechnology is billed as the savior to the worlds problems and is being applied to everything from fuel systems to semiconductors. At this point it's still a pipe dream.
The possibilities are mind-boggling. For example, what if human stem cells - the primordial cells that turn into the body's 200 or so cell types - were to be injected into an animal embryo and spread throughout the animal's body into every organ? Some human cells could migrate to the testes and ovaries where they could grow into human sperm and eggs. If two of the chimeric mice were to mate, they could potentially conceive a human embryo. If the human embryo were to be removed and implanted in a human womb, the resulting human baby's biological parents would have been mice.
Imagine bringing the girlfriend home to meet mom and dad.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: UzairH
Some researchers are speculating about human-chimpanzee chimeras - creating a humanzee. This would be the ideal laboratory research animal because chimpanzees are so closely related to us. Chimps share 98% of the human genome, and a fully mature chimp has the equivalent mental abilities and consciousness of a four-year-old human.

Fusing a human and chimpanzee embryo - which researchers say is feasible - could produce a creature so human that questions regarding its moral and legal status would throw 4,000 years of ethics into chaos. Would such a creature enjoy human rights? Would it have to pass some kind of "humanness" test to win its freedom? Would it be forced into doing menial labour or be used to perform dangerous activities?

Here comes the Planet of the Apes. :Q
 

ThePresence

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Nov 19, 2001
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This is disturbing. Of course it's a Guardian article which is about as reliable as a Jayson Blair article...
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: jjones
Next thing you know, some mouse is going to be plotting to take over the world.

NARF!

They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes Pinky and The Brain
One is a genius, the other's insane
They're laboratory mice, their genes have been spliced
They're dinky, they're Pinky and The Brain Brain Brain Brain Brain

Before each night is done, their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun they'll take over the world
They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes Pinky and The Brain
The Twilight Campaign is easy to explain
They'll prove they're mousy worth, and overthrow the earth
They're dinky, they're Pinky and The Brain Brain Brain
Brain Brain Brain Brain Brain Narf!
 

archcommus

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I'm sorry, but I don't believe allowing a mouse to have a human brain will make it act 100% human, or even in a chimp. It all comes down to what you believe about the origin of man. If you believe that humans are somehow different from animals, on a level that we cannot comprehend, in such a way that allows to do stuff like paint a picture, or write music, or be upset enough to cry, then you can't believe that all it would take is a human brain to make it human.
 

Kadarin

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Scientists injected human brain cells into mouse foetuses, creating a strain of mice that were approximately 1% human. Weissman is considering a follow-up that would produce mice whose brains are 100% human.

Sounds like pseudo-science trash journalism that's designed to do nothing but alarm people.
 
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