Vick indicted

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Queasy
We also don't have sheep fights.

if that isn't illegal, please PM with details, thanks

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: jhu
it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

Meh. The Feds are more interested in the underground network and money and other illegal activies that surround the dog fighting rings than anything else.

The fact that dogs are being killed is just a media friendly icing on the cake.

I'd agree, it's more about the gambling and other associated activities than it is the "cruelty" aspect.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: jhu
i agree it's a pretty stupid thing to do, especially when you're such a high-profile person. on the other hand, i don't understand what the big deal is. so he breeds dogs and has them fight, and the he kills them if they don't win. you know, we do much worse things to millions of other animals. we have assembly-line efficiency in cow, sheep, pig, et cetera killing. where's the public uproar over this?

Because we don't eat dogs. We also don't have sheep fights.

 

[Flyback]

Federal prosecutors had offered a deal recommending an 18- to 36-month prison sentence.

:laugh:

Edit: his legal team was trying to reduce that, but still :Q

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: jhu
it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

It is not the same. There is a huge difference in the killing of domesticated animals for sport/human entertainment versus the killing of "wild" animals for sustanance (cows, sheep, pigs are not technically domesticated). If you can't see that then you should take your hippy, vegan, tree-huggy mantra somewhere else.

 

[Coolone]

Originally posted by: jhu
i agree it's a pretty stupid thing to do, especially when you're such a high-profile person. on the other hand, i don't understand what the big deal is. so he breeds dogs and has them fight, and the he kills them if they don't win. you know, we do much worse things to millions of other animals. we have assembly-line efficiency in cow, sheep, pig, et cetera killing. where's the public uproar over this?

We don't eat dogs here in the US

 

[PepePeru]

it seems to me in this case 'assembly-line efficiency 'means humane & the kill is done quickly & efficiently.
cows, sheep, chickens, horses are not getting drowned, burned, brained or whatever else that sadistic thug did to puppies.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: preslove
The ironic thing is that pit bulls only exist because of dog fighting. Pit bulls were bred for dog fighting. Not that I condone the act, but it is kind of weird that it is illegal use an animal for the very act for which it was created.

I have a World War II Japanese sword in my garage. Should it be legal for me to kill a few people with it, since that's what it was created for?

Dude, I just find it interesting that this animal was created for this very brutal act by Englishmen & ghetto blacks continue to practice it underground. Hell, I think pit bulls shouldn't be allowed in urban areas. That's why I said I don't condone it.

 

[Queasy]

I wonder if the Falcons will try to get a special exception to the salary cap rule for Vick's salary. All that money tied up with him are going to drag them down for the next couple of years.

 

[umbrella39]

Goodbye Mr. Vick, even if you played for my hometown team, I would still hope that when you go to jail where you belong, someone puts a collar around your neck, doesn't feed you for days, and throws you out into genpop where the other dogs can have their way with you.

 

[Agentbolt]

I eagerly await Scoop Jackson's inevitable article where he blames everything on evil, white America putting down the poor black athlete. "Dog fighting is accepted in the south, who are we to judge Michael Vick for being a product of his environment! It was a small lapse in judgement that lasted for several years. For SHAME whitey!"

 

[Yongsta]

So what was that statement about clearing his good name? :laugh:

 

[Kelemvor]

I hope he gets the maximum penalty for these crimes against innocent dogs. Of course with the US justice system, it's probably a $10,000 fine and a week in jail. But hopefully he'll never play in the NFL again. Too bad most athletes these days forget that it's an honor to play professional sports and they take it for granted. Oh well. Good riddance.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I wonder if the Falcons will try to get a special exception to the salary cap rule for Vick's salary. All that money tied up with him are going to drag them down for the next couple of years.

I would imagian they would get it.


but damn what a fucking idiot. blowing everything on this. sigh

 

[jhu]

it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Federal prosecutors had offered a deal recommending an 18- to 36-month prison sentence.

:laugh:

Edit: his legal team was trying to reduce that, but still :Q

FPMITA or Paris Prison ?


One would assume Paris, but he is a tough guy right ? Maybe he wants to "Keep in Gangsta"

 

[alchemize]

Story
The only "official" one I see out there that confirms it.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: CPA
It is not the same. There is a huge difference in the killing of domesticated animals for sport/human entertainment versus the killing of "wild" animals for sustanance (cows, sheep, pigs are not technically domesticated). If you can't see that then you should take your hippy, vegan, tree-huggy mantra somewhere else.

you ever been to a slaughterhouse? they gas them or apply electric shocks to the brain (which can turn their brains to mush), hang them upside down, and sever the jugular veins. it's not pretty. killing cows and other animals is not necessary for our sustenance. however, if you are able to accept such a proposition, i really don't see what vick has done to be any different. in the end the differences aren't all that huge. what if vick and friends had cooked and eaten the dogs. would that have been any better?

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: jhu
it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

the humane society kills lots of dogs everyday, it's considered unfortunate but not socially unacceptable. This is a little different.

We kill cows etc for meat. Dog fighting involves torture of the dog, and it's not for sustenance.

 

[herkulease]

he won't be getting time off. hell martha stewart. served her 5 months.

she of all people you would think would get time off for good behavior. didn't she teach knitting in there or something.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

My dog is a Rhodesian Ridgeback who's sole purpose was to herd lions away from villages and camps in Africa. I don't see my dog doing that on a daily basis any more.

not that you know of. you ever see a lion attack where you live?

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: jhu
it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

Because dogs are cute and cows only have one expression.

 

[herkulease]

I think NFL.com, the nfl network saying it pretty much confirms that its official.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: jhu
it doesn't matter whether or not we eat dogs. it's animal killing all the same. the killing of most types of animals is somehow socially accepted whereas the killing of one particular animal isn't. don't you see the contradiction in this?

Meh. The Feds are more interested in the underground network and money and other illegal activies that surround the dog fighting rings than anything else.

The fact that dogs are being killed is just a media friendly icing on the cake.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: vi_edit


My dog is a Rhodesian Ridgeback who's sole purpose was to herd lions away from villages and camps in Africa. I don't see my dog doing that on a daily basis any more.

Heh, but it isn't illegal for your dog to herd lions

All that said, I hope Vick gets more than a year of jail so that it screws up his career as much as possible.