Vick indicted

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Agentbolt

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btw, slaughterhouses electrocute their cattle via a bolt pistol

Annnnd you just lost any rights you had to converse intelligently on this subject. Do you honestly, seriously think bolt pistols ELECTROCUTE cattle? Please, please God tell me you're not that stupid. I'd like to believe you're not jumping into a conversation while completely ignorant of the facts.

It's called a "captive bolt stunner" and it is basically a jackhammer that crushes their skull. The cow loses consciousness immediately and can be killed without it suffering. It does NOT electrocute them, you moron. Sometimes horses and cattle are STUNNED with electricity, but that's again just to knock them unconscious before slaughtering them quickly by severing their jugular. All of this is done in tightly controlled, vigorously regulated settings. Since you've already proven you're completely ignorant of the subject and attempting to discuss it intelligently anyway, I'm going to assume you were trying to claim Vick's organization was doing the same thing, despite the fact that he was also drowning them and blowing their brains out.

i plead the fifth, and that's about all i'll say about that.

If people as droolingly stupid as yourself have that kind of money to spend, I'm moving to a communist country. Instead, I'm going to assume you are full of shit, as you've already proven you are several times in this thread.

Please, go research the topic, and come back when you have even the slightest, itty-bittiest clue of what you're talking about. Until then, you're simply making noise.

For what it's worth, I think a year in jail is about right. He didn't kill people. He viciously killed some dogs, but dogs aren't people, despite what some people think. The "well what the hell, they're just his property, he can do whatever he wants with them" attitude goes too far in the other direction. For once I agree with the sentence a celebrity is getting.

 

Darkstar757

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Come on we still have not Caught BIN LADEN but we did CATCH MIKE VICK WITH SOME DOGS!
:roll:

BTW I think what he did was wrong. However in no way is this national news and also if the NFL supends him for this then THEY SHOULD BAN EVERY PLAYER CAUGHT WITH WEED, STEROIDS, ETC.


This is a waste of tax payer dollars.
 

Agentbolt

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if the NFL supends him for this then THEY SHOULD BAN EVERY PLAYER CAUGHT WITH WEED

You think systematically torturing and killing dogs is the same thing as smoking pot?
 

Darkstar757

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
if the NFL supends him for this then THEY SHOULD BAN EVERY PLAYER CAUGHT WITH WEED

You think systematically torturing and killing dogs is the same thing as smoking pot?

YES I THINK ALL DRUGS ARE BAD. I have seen more people in my life destroyed by drugs than dog fighting.
 

Agentbolt

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YES I THINK ALL DRUGS ARE BAD. I have seen more people in my life destroyed by drugs than dog fighting.

If you've seen a lot of people in your life "destroyed" by weed, then you hang out with some really, really pathetic people Darkstar. Which I guess isn't too surprising, considering any normal person would probably be more likely to pat you on the head and ask which mental ward you escaped from rather than want to hang out with you.
 

Regs

Lifer
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It's all about money really.

Dog fighting makes people with pets sad. Sad people are smart enough to right angry letters to major sponsors of the NFL.

Major sponsors threatens NFL.

NFL terminates your contract because you become a money problem.


But sniff and snort coke, take some roids, then go beat up your wife and kids all you want. Just as long as you don't cost us any more money and win us a championship.

 

Pacfanweb

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Good riddance to an idiot and below-average "quarterback"....who was really just a receiver who took the snap.

Wonder when these morons who grew up in ghettos and other poor or less-than-desirable circumstances will realize that if they're lucky or blessed enough to "make it" in pro sports or show business, the idea is to GET OUT of the life you grew up in, not bring it with you.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
if the NFL supends him for this then THEY SHOULD BAN EVERY PLAYER CAUGHT WITH WEED

You think systematically torturing and killing dogs is the same thing as smoking pot?

do you really have to ask if he is this stupid? he is compareing the catching of Saddem to catching vick. really WTF?
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Good riddance to an idiot and below-average "quarterback"....who was really just a receiver who took the snap.

Wonder when these morons who grew up in ghettos and other poor or less-than-desirable circumstances will realize that if they're lucky or blessed enough to "make it" in pro sports or show business, the idea is to GET OUT of the life you grew up in, not bring it with you.

Seriously.

When you have the kind of bank he did ($130M contract) why would you throw it all away on such stupidity. If it weren't for the dogs getting hurt I'd find the whole thing hilarious at how he managed to screw up the deal of a lifetime :laugh:

It takes a real kind of idiocy to manage to fvck that up.
 

skyking

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The guy was gifted with talent, and learned his trade well. He got to the top of his craft. The NFL demands that the players refrain from some specific behaviors and at least play the part of good citizens, in exchange for the privelege of making huge amounts of money.

He deserves whatever he gets in both the court of law, and with regards to his contract.
 

Gunslinger08

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I really couldn't care less. I think it'll be a shame if he goes to prison for how long some people expect though. If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.
 

Agentbolt

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If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.

He should definitely not go to jail for 40 years, that's insane. He should go to jail for 1-2 years. And obviously his football career should be done. That's enough.
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.

He should definitely not go to jail for 40 years, that's insane. He should go to jail for 1-2 years. And obviously his football career should be done. That's enough.

He's going to be facing a ton of charges in VA, NC, and SC. I really don't see him getting off with 1-2 years total if they all decide to prosecute. I don't even think he should be banned from the NFL for more than 2-3 years, but he probably will be banned for life because of gambling.
 

theeedude

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Another black man going to prison for a victimless crime. I guess drug war was not enough. Hunting as entertainment is just fine, but when it's something in a minority population or in inner city, by God it's a crime epidemic that the feds need to stamp out.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.

He should definitely not go to jail for 40 years, that's insane. He should go to jail for 1-2 years. And obviously his football career should be done. That's enough.

He's going to be facing a ton of charges in VA, NC, and SC. I really don't see him getting off with 1-2 years total if they all decide to prosecute. I don't even think he should be banned from the NFL for more than 2-3 years, but he probably will be banned for life because of gambling.

hmm i thought his agreement made it so he could not be charged in the state courts.

at least thats what one of the news guys said.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Another black man going to prison for a victimless crime. I guess drug war was not enough. Hunting as entertainment is just fine, but when it's something in a minority population or in inner city, by God it's a crime epidemic that the feds need to stamp out.
I think you are wrong to suggest that the only reason he is going down for this is because he is black.

 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.

He should definitely not go to jail for 40 years, that's insane. He should go to jail for 1-2 years. And obviously his football career should be done. That's enough.

He's going to be facing a ton of charges in VA, NC, and SC. I really don't see him getting off with 1-2 years total if they all decide to prosecute. I don't even think he should be banned from the NFL for more than 2-3 years, but he probably will be banned for life because of gambling.

hmm i thought his agreement made it so he could not be charged in the state courts.

at least thats what one of the news guys said.

No, he can still be charged in all 3 states.
 

Agentbolt

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I think you are wrong to suggest that the only reason he is going down for this is because he is black.

He's not wrong, he's stupid and racist himself. He's either saying he genuinely believes a white QB (Let's say Tom Brady) running a dog fighting ring would've somehow not been charged with anything (in which case he's stupid) or he's simply making noise to trash on Whitey, in which case he's stupid.

End result either way? Stupid.
 

skywhr

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Another black man going to prison for a victimless crime. I guess drug war was not enough. Hunting as entertainment is just fine, but when it's something in a minority population or in inner city, by God it's a crime epidemic that the feds need to stamp out.

This didnt happen in the inner city or in the minority population. His land is in Surry County VA with a high dollar house on a huge piece of land. He is a Piece of Sh!t dont make it into a race issue. Im suprised that any race would claim this ass hole.

Pete Rose gambled, claimed he never gambled on baseball but they banned him anyway, last time I checked, he wasnt black.

Dont send him to jail lock him in a pen with the 53 dogs that they recovered from his property, whats left of him can be free and play football.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I think you are wrong to suggest that the only reason he is going down for this is because he is black.

He's not wrong, he's stupid and racist himself. He's either saying he genuinely believes a white QB (Let's say Tom Brady) running a dog fighting ring would've somehow not been charged with anything (in which case he's stupid) or he's simply making noise to trash on Whitey, in which case he's stupid.

End result either way? Stupid.

Stupid is what you are stuck on.
I am saying that things that happens in black communities is either criminalized or treated harsher than similar activity that happens in white communities. Noone ever puts people in jail for hunting animals for entertainment. That's cruel too, to take an animal's life for your own entertainment. But fighting dogs for entertainment is all of the sudden a big crime to be stamped out by the federal government, and it just so happens that it's popular in African American communities. Typical double standard. Remember crack vs powder cocaine in the 80s. Same stuff, much harsher penalties for the one popular in African American communities. Of course you think these things only happen by coincidence.
 

Agentbolt

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Noone ever puts people in jail for hunting animals for entertainment. That's cruel too, to take an animal's life for your own entertainment. But fighting dogs for entertainment is all of the sudden a big crime to be stamped out by the federal government, and it just so happens that it's popular in African American communities

Hunting deer is legal and dog fighting is not because Dogs are man's best friend and everyone feels all warm and cuddly about them. Nobody cares about deer because they're wild animals. End of story. Blaming everything on some giant "Kill the darkies" conspiracy is lunacy. Plenty of black people hunt, and plenty of white people run dog fighting rings. Saying dog fighting is a "black" thing is yet another example of how deeply racist you really are.

Mike Vick is a worthless pile of crap regardless of the color of his skin. You can cry "racism" all you want and he's still going to go to jail, because when push comes to shove he broke the law. Deal with it, whiner.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
If he's charged and convicted of everything in all 3 states, he'll be in various prisons until he's about 60-65.

He should definitely not go to jail for 40 years, that's insane. He should go to jail for 1-2 years. And obviously his football career should be done. That's enough.

He's going to be facing a ton of charges in VA, NC, and SC. I really don't see him getting off with 1-2 years total if they all decide to prosecute. I don't even think he should be banned from the NFL for more than 2-3 years, but he probably will be banned for life because of gambling.

hmm i thought his agreement made it so he could not be charged in the state courts.

at least thats what one of the news guys said.

No, he can still be charged in all 3 states.

The federal case against Vick focused on the interstate conspiracy, but Vick's admission that he was involved in the killing of dogs could lead to local charges, according to CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.



ahh guess you are right. one of the guy son court TV said he couldnt.
 
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