Discussion Video: NY police officer drives police vehicle into armed woman

NWRMidnight

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I don't have a problem with it. De-escalated the situation quickly and without any serious bloodshed.
I don't have a problem with using the car to de-escalate the situation, and knock her down, as they did.

I do however, have a problem with them pushing her to the ground, to get her on her belly, when she already subdued herself to them, and was already on her knees with her hands behind her back, so she can be handcuffed. That was unnecessary, an may lead to police brutality chargesbecause all he had to do was cuff her. (Watch the full video).
 
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Moonbeam

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Did everybody miss the important detail in the video? She was the same age as Jesus when He died by cop.
 
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I don't have a problem with using the car to de-escalate the situation, and knock her down, as they did.

I do however, have a problem with them pushing her to the ground, to get her on her belly, when she already subdued herself to them, and was already on her knees with her hands behind her back, so she can be handcuffed. That was unnecessary, an may lead to police brutality chargesbecause all he had to do was cuff her. (Watch the full video).
That’s because she had the audacity to fire at them.
 

NWRMidnight

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That’s because she had the audacity to fire at them.
When did she fire at them? As that was never in the video, nor did the police say that during the press conference. The gun went flying when she was hit by the car, which she was pointing it at others and herself (not firing it) prior to being hit, so she didn't even have it when she was on her knees waiting to be handcuffed.
 
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Indus

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Super glad she is black because now I can feel better about my racism. I'm going to post it on every website I can find.

Well just be glad she doesn't have 20 holes in her body so we don't have country wide protests, highways blocked, people getting pissed and people blaming Biden any more than normal.

We can still be ridin with Biden!
 
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When did she fire at them? As that was never in the video, nor did the police say that during the press conference. The gun went flying when she was hit by the car, which she was pointing it at others and herself (not firing it) prior to being hit, so she didn't even have it when she was on her knees waiting to be handcuffed.
From the comment by the OP. I haven’t watched the video.
 

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As a cop dealing with someone acting like that, they could be dealing with someone on drugs with extraordinary strength or conviction to come back at them so you don't give them the benefit of the doubt, you remove the threat. The way she was waving the gun around I expected a hail of bullets honestly.

If she is suffering from mental illness perhaps she'll get treatment or drug rehabilitation if drugged up so it might end up being a good thing.
 
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Zorba

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I think this was likely the best possible course of action and outcome. The cop placed the car on her perfectly to knock her down without significant injury.

There was a white guy shot/killed by police in OKC a few years back under an almost identical situation.
 
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I think this was likely the best possible course of action and outcome. The cop placed the car on her perfectly to knock her down without significant injury.

There was a white guy shot/killed by police in OKC a few years back under an almost identical situation.
I highly doubt the cop executed the hit with any precision. It was luck that he only glanced here and not run her over. They do not train on how to hit a person.
 
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Zorba

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I highly doubt the cop executed the hit with any precision. It was luck that he only glanced here and not run her over. They do not train on how to hit a person.
I'm guessing if he wanted to plow her over he would have. It doesn't take much skill to hit someone with the middle of your bumper. He was very obviously trying to hit her on the side, with the corner.

I get that there are a lot of shitty cops, but give them credit when they do something right. They could've shot and killed her with no consequence and instead a cop put himself in harms way and brought her in with minor injuries.

The tackling does seem a little over the top in the full video, but I think that is kind of SOP for felony arrests like that (not saying it should be, though). That also wasn't the cop that hit her.
 
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Moonbeam

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Super glad she is black because now I can feel better about my racism. I'm going to post it on every website I can find.
This is good thinking but my counter would be that every time a black person commits a crime a white racist should be picked at random and thrown in jail. It's only logical. They fucked up people with skin color that is genetically superior for living in solar radiation intensive environments and often more pleasing to the eye. How else do you account for President Orangutan?
 

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I'm guessing if he wanted to plow her over he would have. It doesn't take much skill to hit someone with the middle of your bumper. He was very obviously trying to hit her on the side, with the corner.

I get that there are a lot of shitty cops, but give them credit when they do something right. They could've shot and killed her with no consequence and instead a cop put himself in harms way and brought her in with minor injuries.

The tackling does seem a little over the top in the full video, but I think that is kind of SOP for felony arrests like that (not saying it should be, though). That also wasn't the cop that hit her.

When you operate such a large vehicle at high speed - 60km/hr ? - ram into a person it is impossible to estimate the outcome of it. The person could move in any direction in the last sec and the outcome would be far diff.

I don't disagree with the move but it was luck she looks unharmed.
 

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When did she fire at them? As that was never in the video, nor did the police say that during the press conference. The gun went flying when she was hit by the car, which she was pointing it at others and herself (not firing it) prior to being hit, so she didn't even have it when she was on her knees waiting to be handcuffed.

Can't vouch for the accuracy but the article below says she fired in the air once. "police say the 33-year-old crossing the intersection of Jerusalem Avenue and Bellmore Avenue fired a gun once in the air."

I watched the video several times and I did not see the gun go flying when she was hit. I did see what appeared to be the gun being picked up by a policeman from what looks like the spot where she was kneeling before they put her on her stomach.

 

NWRMidnight

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Can't vouch for the accuracy but the article below says she fired in the air once. "police say the 33-year-old crossing the intersection of Jerusalem Avenue and Bellmore Avenue fired a gun once in the air."

I watched the video several times and I did not see the gun go flying when she was hit. I did see what appeared to be the gun being picked up by a policeman from what looks like the spot where she was kneeling before they put her on her stomach.

My apologies, I rewatched it, she actually dropped it as she got up and got in to position on her knees to be handcuffed. Firing in the air, if she did, which had to be prior to the video, if it did happen, does not equal to shooting at the police as soundforbjt claimed. He said She shot at them..
 
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