Viewing website on personal server...

[AznMaverick]

I'm using Verizon DSL, i'm also using a versalink dsl modem. I know that it is possible to view my website using the internal lan ip address...is there any way that i can view it with my external ip so i can use my domain name? Other computers that are outside of my network can view the website just fine...however, everything within my network can't...

 

[Red Squirrel]

How is your setup? I assume the server is behind the router with the other machines with port 80 forwarded.

The problem with most routers is that they use port 80 for administration, so when you try to access your IP (even external one) from within the network it will go to the administration, is that the problem you're getting?

 

[JackMDS]

If you are using a Router it can Not be done.

I keep a very inexpensive DialUp service in order to be able to check my system from the outside.

:sun:

 

[BlitzRommel]

I don't think that's his problem -- a simple fix to this is to put your domain name in your HOSTS file, and have it pointed to your server's internal IP

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
If you are using a Router it can Not be done.

That's what I used to think too but apparently some of the SOHO routers like the ones from Linksys will do it. It's called "Internal NAT redirection".

I deal with this a lot at work because people will go from xDSL with a Linksys to a T1 with a Cisco, etc. and then get mad because it no longer works.

No real router would be more appropriate.


We usually recommend modifying the HOSTS file or internal DNS.

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: aves2k

Originally posted by: JackMDS
If you are using a Router it can Not be done.

That's what I used to think too but apparently some of the SOHO routers like the ones from Linksys will do it. It's called "Internal NAT redirection".

I deal with this a lot at work because people will go from xDSL with a Linksys to a T1 with a Cisco, etc. and then get mad because it no longer works.

Noreal router would be more appropriate.

LOL, it is quite easy to "Guess" whether a person is talking about "Real Router", or about Entry Level Cable/DSL Router.:shocked:

:sun:

 

[Goosemaster]

it's easy...just go to one of those anonymous browsing sites that allow you to try it out for free, and type in your address...

let me find you one...

http://www.space.net.au/~thomas/quickbrowse.html

 

[theboywhogotlost]

Originally posted by: AznMaverick
is there any way that i can view it with my external ip so i can use my domain name?

In order to use a Domain Name you would have to have a static IP and set up a few Name servers.

However if you have a static IP and your friends konw it they can just put that in.

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[AznMaverick]

I can view my page perfetly from outside my internal lan. I've changed my hosts file, but nothing happens both in IE and mozilla...there are no settings on the cable/dsl modem that i can change in order to get this to work also.

 

[Cooky]

Check w/ your router's manufacturer and see if your router can support what you're trying to achieve.

I used to have an SMC SOHO router and the product support page clearly indicates that you can't view your webserver via domain name or external IP due to the design of the router. I can however, view the website w/ the router I have now (DLink DI-604).

 

[vegetation]

The function you're looking for is called loopback.
I haven't seen many half-decent routers in this day and age that don't have loopback supported. Sometimes needs to be enabled in the router setup page or a firmware download may be needed. Belkin routers I know often do not support loopback (they are pure junk). Linksys, Dlink, do have loopback. Ghetto brands may not.

The solution is to pull your plug from your router and connect directly to your modem (may require a reboot of your modem to sense the nic change). If you have one of those integrated modem/routers then throw it away and get standalone units.

Modifying the hosts file is fine and dandy for a desktop, but for a laptop you'll be cursing at it when you take it elsewhere and try to connect to your site.

 

[SleepWalkerX]

^ above is correct. my linksys wrt54g has it and i'm glad.

 

[ktwebb]

My speedstream 2624 is several years old and I have no problem checking my website by FQDN. I am a little confused as to why there would be a problem with although clearly some people seem to have one when trying. OP, you don't need a static IP. Just get your DNS hosting from someplace like dyndns.com

 

[AznMaverick]

Originally posted by: vegetation
The function you're looking for is called loopback.
I haven't seen many half-decent routers in this day and age that don't have loopback supported. Sometimes needs to be enabled in the router setup page or a firmware download may be needed. Belkin routers I know often do not support loopback (they are pure junk). Linksys, Dlink, do have loopback. Ghetto brands may not.

The solution is to pull your plug from your router and connect directly to your modem (may require a reboot of your modem to sense the nic change). If you have one of those integrated modem/routers then throw it away and get standalone units.

Modifying the hosts file is fine and dandy for a desktop, but for a laptop you'll be cursing at it when you take it elsewhere and try to connect to your site.

i have tried to disable and enable loopback and a bunch of other settings on my modem router...i think you're right...i should trash my modem/router...it really really is a piece of crap. (and is why i joined verizon dsl to begin with)...oh well.

 

[Cooky]

You may want to call Verizon and see if they block port 80. I think they block the port for their residential services.
If that's the case, it may not have anything to do w/ your hardware at all.

 

[AznMaverick]

Originally posted by: Cooky
You may want to call Verizon and see if they block port 80. I think they block the port for their residential services.
If that's the case, it may not have anything to do w/ your hardware at all.

my server is on port 81 though.

 

[Cooky]

ok, never mind that then.

 

[hazzey]

I had this same problem. I had an easy way to get around it though. I use monowall as my router (similar to smoothwall, etc). In its config you can configure the ip that is used for your internal DNS replies.

I know that this doesn't help you for your current equipment, but at least there are options out there if you are wanting to change at all.

 

[EKKC]

my linksys actually has an entry on static routing table so that whenever i type my external IP or masked domain name, i would go back into my website. however its actually still accessing via the router and intranet, so the traffic never got beyong the router