Vishera spotted running at 5GHz

[mikeymikec]

In other news, San Francisco has been suffering from power supply and demand issues recently...

 

[tweakboy]

Wasn't Vishera that old WWF wrestler LOL


Man these nicknames are soo g** Sheeeez

Its not only Mhz that determines a CPU's power and speed.

Many other things come to play,, L2 cach L3 cach ,, controller BUS etc etc, For 12 years weve been at 3 and 4Ghz ,,,,,,,,, notice they dont get faster, cuz it doesnt need more Mhz instead needs a powerful CPU however which way they design it.

 

[Makaveli]

Nice CineBench score for the FX8350 (4.8GHz or 5GHz), faster than Core i7 2600K at 4.5GHz.

FX8350

FX8150@4.7GHz

Core i7 2600K @ 4.5GHz

FX8150 and Core i7 2600K source :
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2241712&highlight=

Not that impressive I score higher than both at 4Ghz :biggrin: 6cores vs 8cores

 

[AtenRa]

Not that impressive I score higher than both at 4Ghz :biggrin: 6cores vs 8cores

You do remember this

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33345234&postcount=24

 

[Olikan]

i have reading that vishera is a bulldozer C0
not piledriver, not CPU-z showing wrong =(

 

[Ferzerp]

You do remember this

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33345234&postcount=24

Neither cinebench or 7-zip had any clue what to do with processor groups and got all confused on core counts That system can really score 2x that score because it was using fewer than half the available cores.

 

[Makaveli]

You do remember this

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33345234&postcount=24

hehe I most certainly do that was from a server with dual sockets!

And Ferzerp post is correct if this software was aware of how many cores that score would be much higher.

 

[Ferzerp]

It's actually a quad socket, 40 core/ 80 thread system I have sitting in an undisclosed location doing undisclosed activities, each processor group in windows can only hold 64 logical cores, so in this case, it gets split in to two groups of 40 logical cores each, and unless an application is specifically coded to support it, it will only have access to half the power. Now where Cinebench comes up with 16C/32T I have no clue.... But it doesn't even quite get half the resources.

 

[Makaveli]

undisclosed location doing undisclosed activities

lol loved that.

Were you the guy that hacked the bitcoin server

And I stand corrected I didn't know it was a quad socket server very nice.

 

[lifeblood]

I would like to say I have high hopes for Vishera but I had high hopes for Bulldozer and got those squashed flat. Still, that was then and this is now.

If I'm reading the most recent leaks correctly it appears PD is mainly a fix for BD's heat and power issues and contains very little in the way of IPC improvements. Didn't AMD promise 15% improvement per year? Surely they wouldn't fail to deliver on their promise!

Anyone got a release date yet? I was seeing end of Q3 (Sept) but now all I'm seeing is October. Anybody know if samples have shipped to reviewers yet?

 

[inf64]

That Cinebench uses a newer engine so the scores are not directly comparable to FX8150 and 2600K. It does score right on par with 2600K in standard C11.5 which is nice.

 

[guskline]

Just ran the newest cinebench 11.5 downloaded from Maxon. My cpu score on the 8150 @4.5Ghz is 7.41 pts

 

[inf64]

Just ran the newest cinebench 11.5 downloaded from Maxon. My cpu score on the 8150 @4.5Ghz is 7.41 pts

What you DLed does not have the new engine . It's not in actual Maxon Cinebench product yet.

Behind CPU-Z that ran on this system overclocked, a new version of Cinebench was present. It will be based on the engine of Cinema 4D R13 (current Cinebench is based on rather old version 11.5), the availability of software is not announced yet).

 

[NTMBK]

Its not only Mhz that determines a CPU's power and speed.

Many other things come to play,, L2 cach L3 cach ,, controller BUS etc etc, For 12 years weve been at 3 and 4Ghz ,,,,,,,,, notice they dont get faster, cuz it doesnt need more Mhz instead needs a powerful CPU however which way they design it.

We're well aware of that, yes. But since Piledriver is known not to vary wildly from Bulldozer in terms of architecture (more minor tweaks, not major reworking), clock speed is a good indication of how the chip is going to perform as the other factors are essentially known.

 

[Olikan]

I would like to say I have high hopes for Vishera but I had high hopes for Bulldozer and got those squashed flat. Still, that was then and this is now.

If I'm reading the most recent leaks correctly it appears PD is mainly a fix for BD's heat and power issues and contains very little in the way of IPC improvements. Didn't AMD promise 15% improvement per year? Surely they wouldn't fail to deliver on their promise!

Anyone got a release date yet? I was seeing end of Q3 (Sept) but now all I'm seeing is October. Anybody know if samples have shipped to reviewers yet?

Vishera is actually a new stepping from bulldozer, not piledriver....no way in hell they are going to get 15% ipc from that

it's pretty sad... vishera was supposed to bring some tweaks to piledriver

 

[lifeblood]

Vishera is actually a new stepping from bulldozer, not piledriver....no way in hell they are going to get 15% ipc from that

it's pretty sad... vishera was supposed to bring some tweaks to piledriver

I'm not sure where your getting your info. Vishera is supposed to have Piledriver cores. What most people call "Bulldozer" is actually a Zambezi CPU which contained Bulldozer cores. Now if your saying a Piledriver core is just a tweaked Bulldozer core, then I would agree. Of course, Windows 7 was just a tweaked Vista. In that case Microsoft tweaked the right things. Hopefully Piledriver will be as much of an improvement.

 

[Ferzerp]

lol loved that.

Were you the guy that hacked the bitcoin server

And I stand corrected I didn't know it was a quad socket server very nice.

Naw, but it and its bretheren make up resources totalling over 2Thz of Westmere and Sandy Bridge processing power (ignoring HT), along with around 10TB of ram.

The numbers sound big, but it's not really that many servers to be honest.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Intel started shipping 4.4 GHz Xeons last spring.

For the record, that was not a normal production product. It was a heavily-binned special run, for which the customer apparently paid an exorbitant price per chip.

 

[guskline]

What you DLed does not have the new engine . It's not in actual Maxon Cinebench product yet.

How was that run with the new engine? I missed that!

 

[frozentundra123456]

I would like to say I have high hopes for Vishera but I had high hopes for Bulldozer and got those squashed flat. Still, that was then and this is now.

If I'm reading the most recent leaks correctly it appears PD is mainly a fix for BD's heat and power issues and contains very little in the way of IPC improvements. Didn't AMD promise 15% improvement per year? Surely they wouldn't fail to deliver on their promise!

Anyone got a release date yet? I was seeing end of Q3 (Sept) but now all I'm seeing is October. Anybody know if samples have shipped to reviewers yet?

Well, if they could lower the power consumption, they might get 15% improvement per watt. They could always claim that is what they meant. That said, I put no faith in AMDs predictions and projections anymore. Just wait for solid benchmarks from a reliable source.

 

[Phynaz]

Who remembers when AMD demo'd a 3ghz Phenom? How did that turn out?

 

[Idontcare]

For the record, that was not a normal production product. It was a heavily-binned special run, for which the customer apparently paid an exorbitant price per chip.

They are available to anyone who wants to buy an HP ProLiant DL380 G7 X5698 Server. For a tidy sum no less

 

[Charles Kozierok]

They are available to anyone who wants to buy an HP ProLiant DL380 G7 X5698 Server. For a tidy sum no less

Interesting, thanks. Didn't realize it was even available to the public.

My internal notes on the chip were largely based on this AT thread.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Because they are a steaming pile of bull....

Without the driver, roller and dozer.

Lolol

 

[Nemesis 1]

G'head and prosecute me for starting a new Vish thread, I don't care, but at least at this point we have something new and interesting to discuss.

Vishera spotted running at 5GHz watercooled with stock AMD watercooler. Looks like that's what I'm gonna get.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2204765/amd-vishera-chip-running-at-5ghz-is-spotted

Well I must say . I feel bad for you AMD fanbois as I went threw the same thing with Intel P4 . Bottom line is AMD fanbois at the time made it hell for me . Yes I was banned for defending intel . But not many have been banned for defending amd . and high ghz. I may not like some laws . Which is human nature. But when the laws are not applied = across the board .. Thats a criminal act.
Circumstances. If a starving person steals a loaf of bread did he commit a crime . I will leave that for you to answer. This 5ghz thing is no differant than the 8ghz AMD demo. meaningless.