Vista and 3rd party firewalls

[Nothinman]

with my position being the OS writers job is to have a robust OS that shrugs off attacks and protects its basic core OS from any tampering

Which is impossible because you can't programmatically discern between a kernel module that's malware and one that the user actually wants to install for something like virtual CD drives or virus scanning.

But your real error in blaming the user shows you don't even understand the problem--the real enemy is the malware writers who work long and hard to exploit any vulnerabilities.

I understand that I can use my computer all day every and not get any malware and that alone means that the OS isn't exclusively to blame.

 

[Lemon law]

I understand that I can use my computer all day every and not get any malware and that alone means that the OS isn't exclusively to blame.

It somewhat harks back to the Ralph Nadar auto argument---just having things like seat belts and collaspable steering columns---as just one of many improvements that lead to a greatly enhanced chance of survival in event of mishap. I can drive my car for thousands and perhaps millions of miles----and drive safely doing it---but all it takes is one drunk driver hitting me head on to get me hoping my car is not such a death trap---you may hope for the best but also plan for the worst.---and it starts at the factory as OEM equipment.

 

[Nothinman]

It somewhat harks back to the Ralph Nadar auto argument---just having things like seat belts and collaspable steering columns---as just one of many improvements that lead to a greatly enhanced chance of survival in event of mishap. I can drive my car for thousands and perhaps millions of miles----and drive safely doing it---but all it takes is one drunk driver hitting me head on to get me hoping my car is not such a death trap---you may hope for the best but also plan for the worst.---and it starts at the factory as OEM equipment.

Well it didn't take long for a terrible car analogy to appear. Seat belts and collapsable steering columns don't get in the way of the operation of the vehicle but with things like UAC there's a tradeoff between convenience and security. And since most of the time when a drunk person is involved in an accident their injuries are less than that of a sober person does that mean that we should start recommending people drive with a minimum BAC?

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: tommo123
norton? eek!

shudder