Voter intimidation? No problem!

[wkabel23]

From Washington Times:

"Justice Department political appointees overruled career lawyers and ended a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense of wielding a nightstick and intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling place last Election Day, according to documents and interviews.

The incident - which gained national attention when it was captured on videotape and distributed on YouTube - had prompted the government to sue the men, saying they violated the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring would-be voters with the weapon, racial slurs and military-style uniforms.

Career lawyers pursued the case for months, including obtaining an affidavit from a prominent 1960s civil rights activist who witnessed the confrontation and described it as "the most blatant form of voter intimidation" that he had seen, even during the voting rights crisis in Mississippi a half-century ago."

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I remember discussion about this incident in P&N when it happened, but I don't remember the substance of it. Regardless, this seems like a clear case of voter intimidation to me. They basically got a slap on the wrist: they can't appear at polling locations in Philadelphia on election days. :roll:

And political appointees overruling career lawyers for the Justice Dept.? Excellent, more of the same crap we've been dealing with for the past 8 years.

 

[ProfJohn]

Pathetic.

Imagine if this was the KKK in Mississippi. I am sure they would have just been slapped on the wrist too.

 

[jpeyton]

:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

Yep. Pot calling the kettle black.
Of course its wrong.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

Good point but two wrongs don't make a right. If these guys were intimidating voters they should have been more severely punished.

 

[PokerGuy]

You just don't get it... this is part of "change", voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
You just don't get it... this is part of "change", voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

Who is saying it's right?
And if I had to compare the threat of election stealing between a few guys at one polling place versus giving the contract for electronic voting machines to a company whose CEO said his main concern was electing Republicans.....
well, it's no contest.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

Finally, someone who understands the irony of this thread.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

stories are just that stories. having a video of 3 jackbooted thugs dressed in black military clothing one of which is walking around with nightstick right outside the doors of a poll telling people to go away is a whole different ballgame.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

I care not only about voter intimidation, but also about political appointees overruling career lawyers seeking justice.

I don't care who is in office...this type of behavior is unacceptable.

And please be careful of who you label.

Unfortunately, the passion with which some accused and investigated Bush has seemed to fizzle out now that Obama is in office. In spite of the fact that Obama is in office, we have a long way to go. People shouldn't forget that politicians are politicians. We must hold them accountable, regardless of how messianic they are

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

Wrong is wrong, but apparently, since the Democrats won, you are perfectly okay with stooping just as low as the Republicans.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

I honestly didn't think conservatives cared this much about accusations of "voter intimidation", especially after you brushed off all the stories of it in 2000 and 2004.

Would care to provide us with examples from 2000 and 2004 that are similar to this case??

 

[OCGuy]

Those racist morons will go on with thier lives with an IQ of about 50, and will be forgotten by everyone until 2012, where they can show their ignorance again.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
You just don't get it... this is part of "change", voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

Who is saying it's right?
And if I had to compare the threat of election stealing between a few guys at one polling place versus giving the contract for electronic voting machines to a company whose CEO said his main concern was electing Republicans.....
well, it's no contest.

The guy who runs the elections in Minnesota is a Democrat!!! OMG!!!! Every election in Minnesota is now tainted!!!!! -Panic-

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
You just don't get it... this is part of "change", voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

Who is saying it's right?
And if I had to compare the threat of election stealing between a few guys at one polling place versus giving the contract for electronic voting machines to a company whose CEO said his main concern was electing Republicans.....
well, it's no contest.

The guy who runs the elections in Minnesota is a Democrat!!! OMG!!!! Every election in Minnesota is now tainted!!!!! anic:

Phokus ProJo..Phokus

 

[n yusef]

You should take the quotation marks on "new" out of your title. The Black Panther Party dissolved in the 70s. The New Black Panther Party has nothing to do with the original, and has been criticized by ex-Black Panthers.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: n yusef
You should take the quotation marks on "new" out of your title. The Black Panther Party dissolved in the 70s. The New Black Panther Party has nothing to do with the original, and has been criticized by ex-Black Panthers.

For not being violent enough? I was around back in their heydays and the Black Panthers, while good in some aspects for their communities also were a very racist organization prone to violence, much more so than this so-called New Black Panthers.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
You just don't get it... this is part of "change", voter intimidation is fine as long as it help us get elected.

Who is saying it's right?
And if I had to compare the threat of election stealing between a few guys at one polling place versus giving the contract for electronic voting machines to a company whose CEO said his main concern was electing Republicans.....
well, it's no contest.

The guy who runs the elections in Minnesota is a Democrat!!! OMG!!!! Every election in Minnesota is now tainted!!!!! anic:

Phokus ProJo..Phokus

One is the evil twin of the other? :shocked:

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: n yusef
You should take the quotation marks on "new" out of your title. The Black Panther Party dissolved in the 70s. The New Black Panther Party has nothing to do with the original, and has been criticized by ex-Black Panthers.

For not being violent enough? I was around back in their heydays and the Black Panthers, while good in some aspects for their communities also were a very racist organization prone to violence, much more so than this so-called New Black Panthers.

The Black Panther Party has been slandered by the media and the US government. Unlike the New BPP, it was not racist or a hate group. Don't ask me, ask the white radical groups that it was aligned with. You are correct, the BPP was violent, and that violence should be condemned but also placed in context of the world at that time.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: n yusef
You should take the quotation marks on "new" out of your title. The Black Panther Party dissolved in the 70s. The New Black Panther Party has nothing to do with the original, and has been criticized by ex-Black Panthers.

For not being violent enough? I was around back in their heydays and the Black Panthers, while good in some aspects for their communities also were a very racist organization prone to violence, much more so than this so-called New Black Panthers.

The Black Panther Party has been slandered by the media and the US government. Unlike the New BPP, it was not racist or a hate group. Don't ask me, ask the white radical groups that it was aligned with. You are correct, the BPP was violent, and that violence should be condemned but also placed in context of the world at that time.

:roll: BTW do you know what the old Blank Panthers morphed into? The Crips and the Bloods.

 

[JS80]

"We won"

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
:roll: BTW do you know what the old Blank Panthers morphed into? The Crips and the Bloods.

:roll: Source, plz.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
:roll: BTW do you know what the old Blank Panthers morphed into? The Crips and the Bloods.

:roll: Source, plz.

When the BPP disbanded many of the members went on to join the CRIPS which at first was a Political Activist party. Just search for articles about the origin of both the Crips and the Bloods and the BPP is predominatly mentioned.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
:roll: BTW do you know what the old Blank Panthers morphed into? The Crips and the Bloods.

:roll: Source, plz.

When the BPP disbanded many of the members went on to join the CRIPS which at first was a Political Activist party. Just search for articles about the origin of both the Crips and the Bloods and the BPP is predominatly mentioned.

Well, I checked Wiki for the Crips:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crips

And the Black Panthers are mentioned twice:


Gang activity in South Central Los Angeles has its roots in a variety of factors dating back to the 1950s and 60s including: post-World War II economic decline leading to joblessness and poverty, racial segregation leading to the formation of black "street clubs" by young African-American men who were excluded from organizations such as the Boy Scouts, and the waning of black nationalist organizations such as the Black Panther Party and the Black Power Movement

People in the neighborhood then began calling them cripples, or "Crips" for short.[17] The name had no political, organizational, cryptic, or acronymic meaning. Williams, in his memoir, further discounted claims that the group was a spin-off of the Black Panther Party or formed for a community agenda, the name "depicted a fighting alliance against street gangs?nothing more, nothing less", Williams wrote

Wiki doesn't mention the Black Panther party on its Bloods page at all , so this would seem to contradict that the Crips were formed from the Black Panther Party.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
:roll: BTW do you know what the old Blank Panthers morphed into? The Crips and the Bloods.

:roll: Source, plz.

When the BPP disbanded many of the members went on to join the CRIPS which at first was a Political Activist party. Just search for articles about the origin of both the Crips and the Bloods and the BPP is predominatly mentioned.

Well, I checked Wiki for the Crips:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crips

And the Black Panthers are mentioned twice:


Gang activity in South Central Los Angeles has its roots in a variety of factors dating back to the 1950s and 60s including: post-World War II economic decline leading to joblessness and poverty, racial segregation leading to the formation of black "street clubs" by young African-American men who were excluded from organizations such as the Boy Scouts, and the waning of black nationalist organizations such as the Black Panther Party and the Black Power Movement

People in the neighborhood then began calling them cripples, or "Crips" for short.[17] The name had no political, organizational, cryptic, or acronymic meaning. Williams, in his memoir, further discounted claims that the group was a spin-off of the Black Panther Party or formed for a community agenda, the name "depicted a fighting alliance against street gangs?nothing more, nothing less", Williams wrote

Wiki doesn't mention the Black Panther party on its Bloods page at all , so this would seem to contradict that the Crips were formed from the Black Panther Party.

BASTARDS OF THE PARTY


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The CRIPs were not always the gang-bangers they are known to be. The CRIPs were formed in 1969. Raymond Washington, a high school student at the time founded the organization in response to the increasing level of police harassment of the Black community.


CRIPs stood for Community Resources for Independent People. It was styled on the Black Panther Party .