WAR - what is your impression?

Omegachi

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havent gotten the game yet, and i was a WoW player that went cold turkey about a year ago. i am curious as to what you guys think about this game, does it live up to its hype?and how does it compare to WoW (since i can't think of any other big MMORPG), do you think its going to get old soon?
 

Juddog

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I haven't played it yet, but it's by the same guys that created DAoC; in other words there will be tons of PVP, and realm PVP goals look to be pretty sweet. If your focus is on PVP it's worth checking out.
 

mharr7

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Got my sorcerer up to lvl 13...im having a blast with it...nice time sink

My sorc kicks ass....I keep finishing 1st and 2nd on damage done in the PVP scenarios
 

JasonCoder

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Just me or does this just look like an updated WoW engine? Look is very simliar, just updated a bit. Is everyone just in a mad dash to imitate WoW the most in the hopes of being the first WoW killer?

So now we start the inevitable MMO cycle...

- pay $50+ to wait in line at server logon.... two days after purchase when the patcher completes
- enjoy first :30 and then grind mindlessly to later levels in the futile hope that it "gets better at later levels" (DAoC anyone?)
- get to later levels to find end game content totally missing
- endure numerous swings of nerf bat to balance out classes (your sorc sounds like early day EQ1 Wizard - pretty dominating)
- start hyping the next MMO
 

KaOTiK

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Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Just me or does this just look like an updated WoW engine? Look is very simliar, just updated a bit. Is everyone just in a mad dash to imitate WoW the most in the hopes of being the first WoW killer?

So now we start the inevitable MMO cycle...

- pay $50+ to wait in line at server logon.... two days after purchase when the patcher completes
- enjoy first :30 and then grind mindlessly to later levels in the futile hope that it "gets better at later levels" (DAoC anyone?)
- get to later levels to find end game content totally missing
- endure numerous swings of nerf bat to balance out classes (your sorc sounds like early day EQ1 Wizard - pretty dominating)
- start hyping the next MMO

It is kinda hard for most MMO's to come out now and not borrow things from WoW. WoW did do a lot of things right. But in all fairness WAR is aiming for end game RvR and that is what the entire game is balanced around, even the PvE/mobs are balanced around RvR.

As for your points. The first one can be valid, but there are two types of cues in WAR, server full queue and realm full queue . The Realm full queue is just for your side (Order or Dest), they have it to keep the populations balanced in game so things aren't lopsided. It sucks getting the queue but I prefer this method myself.

You don't have to do any PvE to level in the game. You can solely do sceanrio's and their quests and just normal RvR and level, infact it is actually quicker if you have near instant scenario queue times. I am in Tier 3 myself and a few of my guild mates that are higher lvl and know the highest lvl on our server (who is 31 I believe now) haven't had any problems as for as content goes thus far.

I play a Sorc, and why they can destroy people, Mythic took the term "glass cannon" to heart. I die so unbelievably easy and with the backlash of my spells, I do as much if not more damage to myself then my enemies do to me. We are a hell of a force to deal with though if we have a dedicated healer. Balance overall in the game is amazingly well done. A few things need to be adjusted upwards to meet other standards but this game is more balanced out of the gate then any other MMO I have ever played (been from most of them since EQ1).

There is always hype for the next MMO. But I can say in full confidence WAR is going to be around for a long time and be right up there as among the best.
 

Omegachi

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Originally posted by: KaOTiK
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Just me or does this just look like an updated WoW engine? Look is very simliar, just updated a bit. Is everyone just in a mad dash to imitate WoW the most in the hopes of being the first WoW killer?

So now we start the inevitable MMO cycle...

- pay $50+ to wait in line at server logon.... two days after purchase when the patcher completes
- enjoy first :30 and then grind mindlessly to later levels in the futile hope that it "gets better at later levels" (DAoC anyone?)
- get to later levels to find end game content totally missing
- endure numerous swings of nerf bat to balance out classes (your sorc sounds like early day EQ1 Wizard - pretty dominating)
- start hyping the next MMO

It is kinda hard for most MMO's to come out now and not borrow things from WoW. WoW did do a lot of things right. But in all fairness WAR is aiming for end game RvR and that is what the entire game is balanced around, even the PvE/mobs are balanced around RvR.

As for your points. The first one can be valid, but there are two types of cues in WAR, server full queue and realm full queue . The Realm full queue is just for your side (Order or Dest), they have it to keep the populations balanced in game so things aren't lopsided. It sucks getting the queue but I prefer this method myself.

You don't have to do any PvE to level in the game. You can solely do sceanrio's and their quests and just normal RvR and level, infact it is actually quicker if you have near instant scenario queue times. I am in Tier 3 myself and a few of my guild mates that are higher lvl and know the highest lvl on our server (who is 31 I believe now) haven't had any problems as for as content goes thus far.

I play a Sorc, and why they can destroy people, Mythic took the term "glass cannon" to heart. I die so unbelievably easy and with the backlash of my spells, I do as much if not more damage to myself then my enemies do to me. We are a hell of a force to deal with though if we have a dedicated healer. Balance overall in the game is amazingly well done. A few things need to be adjusted upwards to meet other standards but this game is more balanced out of the gate then any other MMO I have ever played (been from most of them since EQ1).

There is always hype for the next MMO. But I can say in full confidence WAR is going to be around for a long time and be right up there as among the best.

so if you were to compare wow to war, which do you think is better in gameplay.
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: KaOTiK
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Just me or does this just look like an updated WoW engine? Look is very simliar, just updated a bit. Is everyone just in a mad dash to imitate WoW the most in the hopes of being the first WoW killer?

So now we start the inevitable MMO cycle...

- pay $50+ to wait in line at server logon.... two days after purchase when the patcher completes
- enjoy first :30 and then grind mindlessly to later levels in the futile hope that it "gets better at later levels" (DAoC anyone?)
- get to later levels to find end game content totally missing
- endure numerous swings of nerf bat to balance out classes (your sorc sounds like early day EQ1 Wizard - pretty dominating)
- start hyping the next MMO

It is kinda hard for most MMO's to come out now and not borrow things from WoW. WoW did do a lot of things right. But in all fairness WAR is aiming for end game RvR and that is what the entire game is balanced around, even the PvE/mobs are balanced around RvR.

As for your points. The first one can be valid, but there are two types of cues in WAR, server full queue and realm full queue . The Realm full queue is just for your side (Order or Dest), they have it to keep the populations balanced in game so things aren't lopsided. It sucks getting the queue but I prefer this method myself.

You don't have to do any PvE to level in the game. You can solely do sceanrio's and their quests and just normal RvR and level, infact it is actually quicker if you have near instant scenario queue times. I am in Tier 3 myself and a few of my guild mates that are higher lvl and know the highest lvl on our server (who is 31 I believe now) haven't had any problems as for as content goes thus far.

I play a Sorc, and why they can destroy people, Mythic took the term "glass cannon" to heart. I die so unbelievably easy and with the backlash of my spells, I do as much if not more damage to myself then my enemies do to me. We are a hell of a force to deal with though if we have a dedicated healer. Balance overall in the game is amazingly well done. A few things need to be adjusted upwards to meet other standards but this game is more balanced out of the gate then any other MMO I have ever played (been from most of them since EQ1).

There is always hype for the next MMO. But I can say in full confidence WAR is going to be around for a long time and be right up there as among the best.


I wish people wouldn't keep comparing games to boring WoW.
WoW was not the first MMORPG ,it also borrowed some ideas from other games,while we on the note of comparison I'll say this WAR is fun while WoW was boring for the 6 months I tried it for ,its like night and day on the fun factor between the two.

The more you play WAR and do as much as possible you realize its fun and a lot of things to do.

I have two clases Shadow Warrior level 13 (just got to figure how to shoot and run in circles then enemies are very dead meat) and Rune Priest level 2.

I'm going to make an Ironbreaker next as well .
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Public Questing is a very cool concept and I love it. I got to lvl 4 on sorc and chosen.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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i like war, simple, and fun

as far as looking like wow, its probably because it has lower res textures, similar to wow

overall though its much darker & more realistic, plus has way better shadows/lighting. I think it looks great, and most people who say it looks like wow will maintain that, until they see it first hand or play it.

I really like the way it is so easy to get into the action and have fun that I'm already planning all my alts and in beta I had quite a few alts.
 

Mem

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Apr 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: novasatori
i like war, simple, and fun

as far as looking like wow, its probably because it has lower res textures, similar to wow

overall though its much darker & more realistic, plus has way better shadows/lighting. I think it looks great, and most people who say it looks like wow will maintain that, until they see it first hand or play it.

I really like the way it is so easy to get into the action and have fun that I'm already planning all my alts and in beta I had quite a few alts.

It looks better then WoW even with the low textures,WoW is cartooney,btw I do have everything maxed out on settings.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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yes, but war uses obviously low res textures to maintain high fps even when fighting a billion guys

it gives it a similar look to wow, which also uses low res textures, and I agree it looks better
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Yeah the graphics engine lets my machine run it maxed at 1600X1200 silky smooth.
I wouldnt mind if they allowed for a higher texture version just for us who enjoy finer details. But it looks good.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Omegachi


so if you were to compare wow to war, which do you think is better in gameplay.

you cant, its apples to oranges, the only thing they really have in common is that they are MMOs, one based on PVP one on PVE, it really depends on what you are looking for

from what i have been reading WAR is going to be very popular with people who want to do nothing but flex their epeen and pwn noobs,

if you want to kill internet dragons then WoW is prob better for you
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Omegachi


so if you were to compare wow to war, which do you think is better in gameplay.

you cant, its apples to oranges, the only thing they really have in common is that they are MMOs, one based on PVP one on PVE, it really depends on what you are looking for

from what i have been reading WAR is going to be very popular with people who want to do nothing but flex their epeen and pwn noobs,

if you want to kill internet dragons then WoW is prob better for you

I disagree,WAR there is more then enough PVE content,personally I think WoW is well overrated(probably why I left after 6 months since I found it boring to tell you the truth),I hope the kiddies stay in WoW and WAR I hope can have and stay with the mature player,its certainly has it all with a lot of fun.

from what i have been reading WAR is going to be very popular with people who want to do nothing but flex their epeen and pwn noobs,
If you played it you would know enemy higher levels can't go into lower RvR regions without being turned into a chicken,you get a warning first you are too high for this region then you better run back to your side,think its like 10 secs you have.

How do I know well lets say I had a scout quest to go into enemy region, was level 12 and only 10 ft into the enemy area with nothing around.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Mem
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Omegachi


so if you were to compare wow to war, which do you think is better in gameplay.

you cant, its apples to oranges, the only thing they really have in common is that they are MMOs, one based on PVP one on PVE, it really depends on what you are looking for

from what i have been reading WAR is going to be very popular with people who want to do nothing but flex their epeen and pwn noobs,

if you want to kill internet dragons then WoW is prob better for you

I disagree,WAR there is more then enough PVE content,personally I think WoW is well overrated(probably why I left after 6 months since I found it boring to tell you the truth),I hope the kiddies stay in WoW and WAR I hope can have and stay with the mature player,its certainly has it all with a lot of fun.

you know as well as I that wont happen, a lot of the "kiddies" in wow are pvpers who have been waiting for WAR, gladly ill be happy to see them go
 

KMFJD

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Aug 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's an MMO, It failed.

Reviewed by Maleficus

Damn, if Maleficus is down on the game it must be awesome!
 

drebo

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Feb 24, 2006
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The only reason Warhammer Online looks like WoW is because the Warcraft universe has traditionally borrowed heavily from the concept art of the Warhammer universe.

As far as the game itself, WoW is far more polished at this point. While it's not as bad as in Beta, there are a lot of timing issues with WAR. Timing of skills firing, progress bars filling up, etc, all seem to be just a little bit off. Not something they can't fix, but it's my second biggest gripe so far.

My biggest gripe is the fact that PvP is introduced in to the game at such an early level via scenarios and PQs in the same location for both sides. For instance, I was trying to do the Greenskin Ch. 3 PQ last night and all of the healers were so busy trying to nuke the dwarves running around that they were completely ignoring the fact that there was a quest going on.

And for Scenarios, I believe they just serve to detract from World RvR as a whole. People who are used to WoW see them and think..."Oh, this is our PvP, cool"....when it's not. Not by a long shot. And, even though most people do not participate in Scenarios, they gauge realm balance off of their experiences in the Tier 1 scenario. It's not even big enough to be a vaguely representational population. Not by a long shot.

So, other than those two issues, which obviously will correct themselves later on down the road, the game is not terribly done. I think it will get better as time goes on. Mythic has never been squeemish about taking down the servers to fix pressing issues.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Anubis
you know as well as I that wont happen, a lot of the "kiddies" in wow are pvpers who have been waiting for WAR, gladly ill be happy to see them go

Same... I hope WAR is plagued with the anal and Harry Potter game! If not, I may need to buy WAR and become a bit of a catalyst :evil:!

Originally posted by: Mem
I wish people wouldn't keep comparing games to boring WoW.

Except it is the current top MMO, which makes it a valid comparison. Also, based on your terminology, I wouldn't put much faith in your assessments as they're most likely a tad bit skewed.

I might try the game if it gets cheap to buy... 'cause I know if I buy it now I won't even play it. So I'll at least try and throw away less money .
 

tsolin01

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I've read a lot of people saying that WAR = PvP and that's true only to a degree though. Yes there is PvP in WAR but it's not all about PvP, there is a big PvE game there also. Mythic's RvR term really means both PvP and PvE together. You can spend your time from 1-40 doing strictly PvE, not doing any scenarios or open world RvR and there's a lot of content for that. It will take you a little longer and probably feel more like a grind than mixing in some PvP.

What I've come to realize is that you have a lot of options in this game. You're not stuck doing the same things over and over again. Bored with the Dark Elf vs. High Elf quests and Scenario? jump on to the Chaos vs. Empire area and try that out. Or head to your capital city for some PvE encounters there. Or just go do some exploring and get some tome unlocks.

The endgame is more skewed towards PvP only because the capital cities have the good dungeons and of course the king. There are also lairs out there to find as well as some endgame instanced content as well. So you can get your PvP or PvE fix any time you want. The game has a lot to offer the veteran MMO player. And I'm sure more content will be coming in the future but what's there right now should be enough to last a few months I think.

One thing to note is that once you level up out of a tier you won't be able to experience the PvP content for that tier again. So if you really want to try everything out, make sure you go travel to one of the other faction pairing zones and join its scenario. All the PvE stuff like quests and public quests you can always go back and do though. In other games it was always a rush to get to cap but in this game it's not so much as urgent. I got to level 11 the first day of SE head start and there was hardly anyone else around that level so doing PQs started to become a problem with the lack of help. And once I got to Tier 2 you couldn't even do a scenario because there weren't enough people. Keep that in mind if you're rushing to level up.


 
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