WAR - what is your impression?

[Vehemence]

R20/RR18 BW, just got my mount and surname. Finally getting some more insta-cast/1sec spells, which is great.

 

[novasatori]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
The only problem with this game is the grind once you hit ~level 23+. Quests give shit XP, and you have to count on popping often to make XP at a decent pace.

QFT
I dunno that I can stomach to continue playing. I'm still only 27, can't bare to login.

Will I ever reach T4? Who knows...

 

[KaOTiK]

You should just be doing scenario's to level in all honesty. I was ahead of the curve and stopped questing once queues started to pop. I leveled from 26-32 very quickly between all the keep sieging/defending going on and queues. You should, especially since you are with the curve of players should have your renown rank equal to your rank and be keeping it that way. I was able to pull mine up a lot since my guild does lots of keeps and objectives, but I was still behind my rank and it has only gotten worse since I hit T4 and I know I wont be seeing any renown really till the end of the week, my RR is 29, I'm about 40% through it.

Now that I'm in T4, it is the samething again so far. About to 35 and am finished with the DE side up to chapter 19 and will head over to Chaos and do their T4 chapters up till 19, same with the Greens.

T4 is really cool, in the DE area, we get a few quests that involve heading into the RvR area and going up through the Order's lvln spots, so I am glad that I am ahead of the curve cause there is no way I can see some of these quests being done once the majority of the population is in T4.

 

[scruffypup]

k

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: novasatori

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
The only problem with this game is the grind once you hit ~level 23+. Quests give shit XP, and you have to count on popping often to make XP at a decent pace.

QFT
I dunno that I can stomach to continue playing. I'm still only 27, can't bare to login.

Will I ever reach T4? Who knows...

Trick is to have different class alts,my BW is becoming a grind at level 20 so I have been on my IB level 13 for now,when I get bored with the grind I can always go on my RP,obviously 20+ for all my alts will still be a grind but at least I have different classes to play with by then.

One more thing later on there will be more players at 20+ level so more to group with for PQs,RvRs etc...

 

[Mem]

Anybody played Stonetroll crossing scenerio on tier 2?..Order side always gets the most unbalanced class grouping ever,everybody keeps asking me why do we always lose on this one simple answer is balance class is biased toward Destruction on this scenerio ie they alwas have a nice balance of healers,range,melee etc.. I went in on my IB today again for 30th time lose again,we had no healers and only one tank(me)and anybody knows thats bad for tanks.

Stats so far are 4 wins for Order, 27 Wins for Destruction over 2 week period on this one.I'm still doing stats on Stonetroll crossing.

 

[novasatori]

stop queueing for it
stonetroll is garbage imo

phoenix gate and mourkain's are way better

phoenix gate, engineers are badass at defense can keep ppl off the flag easy
mourkain's white lion with mount can get it first always usually (mount to about half way there, then dismount, flee+charge)

I think overally mourkain's was best when rolling with guild, we could stop destro in like 8 min or less. If I was pugging it though, ALWAYS went to phoenix gate.

If you just play defense on Phoenix Gate and have small groups of 2-3 go try to ninja flag its much more forgiving and usually people will catch on if you hang back with a couple others.

Therefore, imo, its more pug friendly.

 

[Mem]

It seems the game is crashing more today,had two crashes within 60 minutes,one was while I was in flight to another area,gets annoying after awhile.

 

[tsolin01]

Yea it's easy to burn yourself out just grinding quests and influence. I think since the XP gained doesn't scale the same as the amount of XP you need, it leaves people frustrated because they're used to the fast leveling of the initial levels. They should have made it a more gradual transition but you'd have to expect it to get tougher since there are only 40 ranks. It's still faster IMO than most other MMOs out there.

Scenarios are a big source of XP for me so I queue up those as much as I can. Of course doing the same scenario over and over again is boring too. At 27 you can also do the instanced dungeons in the capital cities or Gunbad I think? maybe do some crafting, not like the crafting is really great but it could break the monotony of just questing. Or just go out and explore a bit. It's better if you have a guild I think so you can go do some open RvR or just shoot the shit. I have some friends playing too so if I'm bored, I just go help them. The trick is not to keep doing the same thing for too long or you'll get bored.

I've played FFXI for the last 3 years so I'm used to grinding for hours lol...

 

[Mem]

Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

 

[Dumac]

Leveling really isn't that bad...

Maybe I'm just used to the tougher olden days.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Mem
Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

Don't you love paying for a beta test?

It now seems that scenarios and RVR are 90%+ Destruction wins. Last night I took part in three (3) keep raids in three different areas, with 24-man war parties of Order and no destruction defenses to start with. We had cannons, ram, multiple healers, everything. Yet each time we got wiped over and over by massive numbers of destruc, mostly Goons, that magically appeared after we had gained entry to the keep. Not only are destruc chars overpowered, there are just *more* of them everywhere.

 

[Mem]

I must say I find Destruction guys cowards in RvR only ones that want to fight my IB on 1 v1 in PvP are ones 2 to 5 levels higher then me,any my level run away shame on you guys,as to you guys 5 levels higher well see how brave you are when I'm your level.

 

[Malladine]

mem how's your damage output on the IB? Do you have another class to compare it with?

 

[tsolin01]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Mem
Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

Don't you love paying for a beta test?

It now seems that scenarios and RVR are 90%+ Destruction wins. Last night I took part in three (3) keep raids in three different areas, with 24-man war parties of Order and no destruction defenses to start with. We had cannons, ram, multiple healers, everything. Yet each time we got wiped over and over by massive numbers of destruc, mostly Goons, that magically appeared after we had gained entry to the keep. Not only are destruc chars overpowered, there are just *more* of them everywhere.

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

You get a balanced 6v6 group of tanks, healers, dd being controlled by same skill level people and I guarantee it'll be a toss up on who wins. i guess for some reason the destro side on my server isn't the brightest of the bunch...

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: tsolin01

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Mem
Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

Don't you love paying for a beta test?

It now seems that scenarios and RVR are 90%+ Destruction wins. Last night I took part in three (3) keep raids in three different areas, with 24-man war parties of Order and no destruction defenses to start with. We had cannons, ram, multiple healers, everything. Yet each time we got wiped over and over by massive numbers of destruc, mostly Goons, that magically appeared after we had gained entry to the keep. Not only are destruc chars overpowered, there are just *more* of them everywhere.

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

You get a balanced 6v6 group of tanks, healers, dd being controlled by same skill level people and I guarantee it'll be a toss up on who wins. i guess for some reason the destro side on my server isn't the brightest of the bunch...

Well Goon Squad (as in the SA Goons) rolled destruction on our server. I think they have 500+ members at this point, and they're pretty active in RvR. So any time order gets an organized keep seige going, it tends to get crushed pretty quickly by massive zergs of destro players.

I'm not worried though. Adversity makes better players.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Malladine
mem how's your damage output on the IB? Do you have another class to compare it with?

Not as high as my BW(obviously) on attack but I last a lot longer in fights and can take on champions my own level or above,IBs are tanks for sure,I'm speccing vengence path to boost my DPS attack etc...overall its not bad considering Im a tank class.

I'm getting a lot of strength/toughness bonus gear which helps a lot in battles.

 

[HumblePie]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: tsolin01

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Mem
Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

Don't you love paying for a beta test?

It now seems that scenarios and RVR are 90%+ Destruction wins. Last night I took part in three (3) keep raids in three different areas, with 24-man war parties of Order and no destruction defenses to start with. We had cannons, ram, multiple healers, everything. Yet each time we got wiped over and over by massive numbers of destruc, mostly Goons, that magically appeared after we had gained entry to the keep. Not only are destruc chars overpowered, there are just *more* of them everywhere.

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

You get a balanced 6v6 group of tanks, healers, dd being controlled by same skill level people and I guarantee it'll be a toss up on who wins. i guess for some reason the destro side on my server isn't the brightest of the bunch...

Well Goon Squad (as in the SA Goons) rolled destruction on our server. I think they have 500+ members at this point, and they're pretty active in RvR. So any time order gets an organized keep seige going, it tends to get crushed pretty quickly by massive zergs of destro players.

I'm not worried though. Adversity makes better players.

Yep, on Volkmarr, the server I'm on, when I last checked back on T2, all the scenario and keeps are owned by Order. In T3 right now, since many of my guild and the others in our alliance are in this range, we own the order side. Since we leveled up from T2 to T3, there isn't a huge destro presence of players that know what they are doing in that range.

Not that we don't have competition. There are a few notable guilds on Order keeping us on our toes in T3 such as old timers guild. There's a couple more but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

The game is balanced, the players are not. Don't confuse the two.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: tsolin01

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Mem
Another CTD, also I sent feedback about treasure loot time, 3 times now I missed out on 3rd place loot due to death and running back is not always enough time,healer was dead too.

Don't you love paying for a beta test?

It now seems that scenarios and RVR are 90%+ Destruction wins. Last night I took part in three (3) keep raids in three different areas, with 24-man war parties of Order and no destruction defenses to start with. We had cannons, ram, multiple healers, everything. Yet each time we got wiped over and over by massive numbers of destruc, mostly Goons, that magically appeared after we had gained entry to the keep. Not only are destruc chars overpowered, there are just *more* of them everywhere.

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

You get a balanced 6v6 group of tanks, healers, dd being controlled by same skill level people and I guarantee it'll be a toss up on who wins. i guess for some reason the destro side on my server isn't the brightest of the bunch...

Depends on the Destruction group if they are smart they normal put 3 to 4 guys on my IB, 1 on 1 is stupid move unless its PvP and they are at least 2+ levels higher.


Healers are my main problem on Order side as IB,a lot forget to heal tanks .RvR scenerios's is also another nightmare on troll crossing,80% of my team run around on their own like headless chickens,example being today the Destruction side kept together and had the pacifier 95% of time,most of my order side were just doing their own thing and dying often.

I agree mounts should be banned in Scenerio's,especially since you only get them at 20 and if your side is below that level then its not fair.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: tsolin01

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

Depends on the Destruction group if they are smart they normal put 3 to 4 guys on my IB, 1 on 1 is stupid move unless its PvP and they are at least 2+ levels higher.

I'm a Warrior Priest and haven't found a class I can't beat 1v1 unless they're 2 or 3+ levels higher. Probably a DoK would give me a run though

In scenarios I heal as much as I damage, which is how I've gathered Mythic designed the Warrior Priests. Makes for a much more enjoyable experience than the healbot format.
And yeah I usually heal the tanks, since it's pretty much the best gain/action pt ratio. Besides tanks the DPS classes get any extra heals I can spare. I've gone Path of Grace myself to afford both improved melee and buff/debuffs.

 

[HumblePie]

Originally posted by: Mem

Depends on the Destruction group if they are smart they normal put 3 to 4 guys on my IB, 1 on 1 is stupid move unless its PvP and they are at least 2+ levels higher.


Healers are my main problem on Order side as IB,a lot forget to heal tanks .RvR scenerios's is also another nightmare on troll crossing,80% of my team run around on their own like headless chickens,example being today the Destruction side kept together and had the pacifier 95% of time,most of my order side were just doing their own thing and dying often.

I agree mounts should be banned in Scenerio's,especially since you only get them at 20 and if your side is below that level then its not fair.

Just depends on healers. As I'm going through scenarios and world rvr, I'm leveling up at around the same pace as the majority of order guilds who are good. Meaning, they have a ton of healing that does nothing else really. Makes it hard to kill anyone.

Also, if you are an IB, doing trolls crossing scenario is not the best. The temple is best for tanks, healers, and nukers as it's a small close fitting map with no where to really go.

My witch elf did surprisingly well on trolls crossing though because of what you stated above. People tended to go every which way not knowing what to do. Which means people went of solo and separate from any help. As a witch elf, I can practically anyone else solo period if they are my level or lower. Depending on the class even a few levels above me. to bad I can't do trolls crossing anymore the one time I did it before leveling out of 21 I had 102K damage and 35 kills all on my own.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Malladine
I'm a Warrior Priest and haven't found a class I can't beat 1v1 unless they're 2 or 3+ levels higher. Probably a DoK would give me a run though

In scenarios I heal as much as I damage, which is how I've gathered Mythic designed the Warrior Priests. Makes for a much more enjoyable experience than the healbot format.
And yeah I usually heal the tanks, since it's pretty much the best gain/action pt ratio. Besides tanks the DPS classes get any extra heals I can spare. I've gone Path of Grace myself to afford both improved melee and buff/debuffs.

Do you count is as a win if they just root/snare you and then run away? I've had that happened so many times, it's crazy.

One class that I think would be tough for Warrior Priests is White Lion. However, we'll never know...

 

[Malladine]

nope, only a win if they lie beaten at my feet, mwah!

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: tsolin01

Big difference on my server. Order's been owning in Tier 3 in scenarios and world RvR. Destruction is definitely not overpowered, have you seen the screenshots of 150k+ dmg from bright wizards in a single scenario? I've been chain rooted by like 3 bright wizards as they burn everyone around me to the ground and as I'm getting pummeled by a seemingly unkillable Ironbreaker... Dont' get me started on warrior priests...

Depends on the Destruction group if they are smart they normal put 3 to 4 guys on my IB, 1 on 1 is stupid move unless its PvP and they are at least 2+ levels higher.

I'm a Warrior Priest and haven't found a class I can't beat 1v1 unless they're 2 or 3+ levels higher. Probably a DoK would give me a run though

In scenarios I heal as much as I damage, which is how I've gathered Mythic designed the Warrior Priests. Makes for a much more enjoyable experience than the healbot format.
And yeah I usually heal the tanks, since it's pretty much the best gain/action pt ratio. Besides tanks the DPS classes get any extra heals I can spare. I've gone Path of Grace myself to afford both improved melee and buff/debuffs.

WP are fun.

Last night doing the Emprie T1 me and a witch hunter took the barracks and held it. I was able to keep him and me up going against 3 @ a time. In the end it took four destructions beating on me and 1 chasing the WH around- even then it took a bit.

Two HoTs, the whack for health, the detaunt and a 1 minute CD big heal makes WP tough to bring down. Can't wait for T2 stuff!

 

[Malladine]

Just wish the game was more responsive...my abilites sometimes don't work when i tell them to, esp. the morale abilites in RvR