Weapons of Mass destruction found.

[syf3r]

Here's another reference:
Yes, U.S. helped Iraq get chemical, biological weapons

from which I quote:

A 1994 investigation by the Senate Bank Committee found that U.S. companies had been licensed by the Commerce Department to export a "witch's brew" of biological and chemical materials, including precursors of anthrax and botulism. The report also noted the exports included plans for chemical and biolgical warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment.

/syf3r

[edited for emphasis]

 

[josphII]

i heard 4 litters of sarin. you? you hear what you want to hear

That news had not yet been released.

And, it wasn't 4 liters of sarin. It was 3-4 liters of chemicals that, when mixed, form sarin.

i guess im a really good guesser or my tv is special

 

[syf3r]

here is another reference:
US and British Support for Hussein Regime which "should" address all you people that say he was such a bad bad bad man and that's why we went in, and "should" shut you all the h3ll up when you see we knew all about how bad bad bad he was, and that him being bad bad bad was good for us so we ignored it, but it won't, will it?

/syf3r

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: syf3r
And here is a good flash animation which some may have already seen, but it sums up some of the key events in the life of Saddam Hussein in his role as a CIA asset.

/syf3r

green light to invade kuwait

do u commie-libs really believe this?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: josphII

i heard 4 litters of sarin. you? you hear what you want to hear

That news had not yet been released.

And, it wasn't 4 liters of sarin. It was 3-4 liters of chemicals that, when mixed, form sarin.

i guess im a really good guesser or my tv is special

The news of 3-4 liters of chemicals had NOT been released when I made my post.

See, the timestamp on my post is: 05/18/2004 12:04 PM

chadder007 made his post about the "confirmed" tests at 05/18/2004 12:27 PM

Now, don't you have some spelling words to study or something?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
forget about being rational. forget about answering my question.

Tell me heartsurgeon, are you always a hypocrite or just when you're on the internet?

"Bush doesn't like flip-flops."

 

[conjur]

Interesting...FOX News is STILL the only news site reporting the claim of "confirmed tests".

 

[syf3r]

That's because FauxNews is the war party's wet dream.

/syf3r

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: conjur
Interesting...FOX News is STILL the only news site reporting the claim of "confirmed tests".

When you sleep with the army you get special treats

 

[syf3r]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: syf3r
And here is a good flash animation which some may have already seen, but it sums up some of the key events in the life of Saddam Hussein in his role as a CIA asset.

/syf3r

green light to invade kuwait

do u commie-libs really believe this?

Oooooh, good one! You respond to 5 or 6 pages of text which DIRECTLY address and discredit your "points" in previous posts with a blanket statement REDIRECTION about someone's political leanings which, curiously enough, completely IGNORES anything in those pages of text. I thought we were talking about who supplied who with what... Weren't we? I just gave you historical documentation that shows who provided who with what... But I guess when the evidence is too solid for your feeble arguments to withstand, we conveniently change the topic and focus on one teensie weensie little point that's completely irrelevant and unrelated to the topic at hand...

Fact of the matter is, you have absolutely no idea what my political leanings are, and for you to assume you do after reading a few posts on some bulletin board about one very specific and localized topic makes you what? Intelligent? Or an idiot? We both know the answer to that one, don't we?

/syf3r

(waiting for the next personal attack which completely evades and ignores the issues and facts. Maybe I'll make that my sig, since that kind of action seems to be quo status around here.)

 

[syf3r]

When the intellect finds itself out of its league, start yelling obscenities because, after all, it's not who's right, it's who can come up with the better insult... yeah!

/syf3r

 

[Chadder007]

Foxnews TV reporting that the 3-4 liters of Sarin found was enough to kill 1000's.
I haven't seen a darn bit of this on CNN....they just keep reporting about the Gas prices.... WTF?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Foxnews TV reporting that the 3-4 liters of Sarin found was enough to kill 1000's.
I haven't seen a darn bit of this on CNN....they just keep reporting about the Gas prices.... WTF?

Maybe because no one else has seen the "confirmed tests"

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Foxnews TV reporting that the 3-4 liters of Sarin found was enough to kill 1000's.
I haven't seen a darn bit of this on CNN....they just keep reporting about the Gas prices.... WTF?

Maybe because no one else has seen the "confirmed tests"

Yeah....probably some idiot at Foxnews jumped the gun on the "confirmation". Who knows ....
Then again it says the Defense officials told Foxnews that it was confirmed, why not CNN?

 

[biostud]

No matter what is found, no one knew that Iraq had WMD, but everybody thought they knew.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: biostud666
No matter what is found, no one knew that Iraq had WMD, but everybody thought they knew.

Bush & Co. said they knew.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: biostud666
No matter what is found, no one knew that Iraq had WMD, but everybody thought they knew.

Bush & Co. said they knew.

If they truely knew they would have found them long time ago. As I said no-one doubted he had them, but we didn't know for sure.

 

[sodcha0s]

If they truely knew they would have found them long time ago.

We have a winner. I havent read all 7 pages of this thread but Bush an Co. claimed they had hard evidence of WMD's and their whereabouts in Iraq. So we send hundereds of thousands of troops there to oust Sadaam and find these weapons. Well the troops have been there over a year scouring the whole country and haven't come up with ONE MINUTE piece of evidence of their existance whatsoever, NONE. Now one peashooter of a bomb goes off and suddenly the MORAL right wingers come out of the woodwork and shout, "SEE! WE TOLD YOU!!!" How pathetic. It's almost as pathetic as spending 8 years of taxpayers money to show everyone how much of an immoral crook Clinton was and only comming up with "He's an adulterer."

Clinton got a BJ and denied it. Bush stood in front of America and lied about WMD's in Iraq so he could start a war, killing thousands of innocent people. Who's morally bankrupt?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

As far as quantities of "WMDs", no amount will satisfy me..

you need to understand that this is what liberals really believe...then all their obfuscation about what is or isn't a WMD becomes moot.

they don't care what we find.."no amount will satisfy me..."

It is lying slime like you that drive independents like me away from the Republican Party. Though you've demonstrated again and again you don't give a tinker's damn about accuracy or honesty or context, this is an egregious example even by your so-called standards.

How about we look at what I actually said:

• As far as quantities of "WMDs", no amount will satisfy me as justification for Bush's invasion. As I've said here several times, his attack was wrong even if Iraq had "WMDs". We had a process in place to find and destroy any remaining proscribed materials. By George's own admission, Iraq did NOT pose an imminent threat. Therefore, there was no justification for his rush to invade. We had time.
  
  The better question would be what quantity of "WMDs" would satisfy me that Bush and his minions did not lie? That's easy. Show me Iraq had the "massive stockpiles" and "thousands of liters" and "reconstitued nuclear weapons programs" and UAVs poised to strike the US mainland with chemical or biological agents, and all the other BS they used to sell their war. Show me that Iraq had all of these things in January, 2003, not in 1990 or 1998. Show me that, and I will believe them. Until then, I'll remain convinced they're a pack of scheming liars.

Got that? The quantity of "WMDs" found does matter ... to King George's integrity. The quantity matters in establishing just how baldly Bush and his minions lied to sell their unholy crusade. It matters to the families of 777 dead American soldiers who died for a lie. It matters to 25+ million Iraqis who wonder if this American-style democracy is truly any better than the despot we unseated. It matters to anyone who loves America and believes in her ideals.

Tragically, it does NOT matter to you, nor to the millions of bleating Bush fan-boys like you. You eagerly swallow whatever spews from the Bush administration. Truth be damned, you don't need no steenk'n facts, right and wrong are irrelevant. George talks to God, so it's all good in your blind eyes. The loss of your personal integrity -- not to mention thousands of innocent people -- is a small price to pay.



You asked for a quantity. I'm not surprised you ignored my answer. Let me give it to you again, just to drive home the fact your feckless leader is a lying slime. No wonder you worship him so:

• Show me Iraq had the "massive stockpiles" and "thousands of liters" and "reconstitued nuclear weapons programs" and UAVs poised to strike the US mainland with chemical or biological agents, and all the other BS they used to sell their war. Show me that Iraq had all of these things in January, 2003, not in 1990 or 1998. Show me that, and I will believe them. Until then, I'll remain convinced they're a pack of scheming liars.

Get back to me when you can show me these things are true. Until then, take your single, lame artillery shell diversion and stick it.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: josphII
then again you commie-libs probably think myself and every other can-think-for-themselves man is the debil

Since I'm in a foul mood at the moment, let me let you in on a little secret. Every time you call someone a "commie-lib", it makes you look retarded.

Just thought you needed to know this. Carry on.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: biostud666
No matter what is found, no one knew that Iraq had WMD, but everybody thought they knew.

Bush & Co. said they knew.

If they truely knew they would have found them long time ago. As I said no-one doubted he had them, but we didn't know for sure.

Ah...trying the nuance game?

Vice President Richard Cheney
"We know he's got chemicals and biological [weapons] . . ."

Source: Meet the Press, NBC (5/19/2002).

President George W. Bush
"He said he wouldn't have chemical weapons, he's got them."

Source: Remarks by the President at Missouri Welcome, White House (11/4/2002).

Secretary of State Colin Powell
"How do I know that? How can I say that? Let me give you a closer look. Look at the image on the left. On the left is a close-up of one of the four chemical bunkers. The two arrows indicate the presence of sure signs that the bunkers are storing chemical munitions."
Source: Remarks to the United Nations Security Council, United Nations (2/5/2003).

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
"The area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is, is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat. Second, the kernel facilities, there are dozens of them, it is a large geographic area . . . I would also add that we saw from the air there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press, and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploration is just starting."
Source: This Week with George Stephanopolous, ABC (3/30/2003).

President George W. Bush
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States."
Source: President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks by the President on Iraq, White House (10/7/2002).

You were saying????

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: josphII

i heard 4 litters of sarin. you? you hear what you want to hear

That news had not yet been released.

And, it wasn't 4 liters of sarin. It was 3-4 liters of chemicals that, when mixed, form sarin.

i guess im a really good guesser or my tv is special

The news of 3-4 liters of chemicals had NOT been released when I made my post.

See, the timestamp on my post is: 05/18/2004 12:04 PM

chadder007 made his post about the "confirmed" tests at 05/18/2004 12:27 PM

Now, don't you have some spelling words to study or something?

this was reported yesterday, 5/17/2004

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

It is lying slime like you that drive independents like me away from the Republican Party.

Since i'm in a GREAT mood - I'll just say...Buahahahahahaha.....hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

CkG

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: syf3r

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: syf3r
And here is a good flash animation which some may have already seen, but it sums up some of the key events in the life of Saddam Hussein in his role as a CIA asset.

/syf3r

green light to invade kuwait

do u commie-libs really believe this?

Oooooh, good one! You respond to 5 or 6 pages of text which DIRECTLY address and discredit your "points" in previous posts with a blanket statement REDIRECTION about someone's political leanings which, curiously enough, completely IGNORES anything in those pages of text. I thought we were talking about who supplied who with what... Weren't we? I just gave you historical documentation that shows who provided who with what... But I guess when the evidence is too solid for your feeble arguments to withstand, we conveniently change the topic and focus on one teensie weensie little point that's completely irrelevant and unrelated to the topic at hand...

Fact of the matter is, you have absolutely no idea what my political leanings are, and for you to assume you do after reading a few posts on some bulletin board about one very specific and localized topic makes you what? Intelligent? Or an idiot? We both know the answer to that one, don't we?

/syf3r

(waiting for the next personal attack which completely evades and ignores the issues and facts. Maybe I'll make that my sig, since that kind of action seems to be quo status around here.)

5 or 6 pages of text which directly address and discredit my points in previous posts? you sure about that? and i do know what your political leanings are, because well, you dont exactly try to hide it!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: josphII

i heard 4 litters of sarin. you? you hear what you want to hear

That news had not yet been released.

And, it wasn't 4 liters of sarin. It was 3-4 liters of chemicals that, when mixed, form sarin.

i guess im a really good guesser or my tv is special

The news of 3-4 liters of chemicals had NOT been released when I made my post.

See, the timestamp on my post is: 05/18/2004 12:04 PM

chadder007 made his post about the "confirmed" tests at 05/18/2004 12:27 PM

Now, don't you have some spelling words to study or something?

this was reported yesterday, 5/17/2004

Oh? The 3-4 liters was reported yesterday, eh?

Prove it. Otherwise, you are a liar.