Weird tasting fountain soda

bandXtrb

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You ever get "weird" tasting fountain soda? Maybe it seems watery or has a "bitter" taste to it? What do you think? -- because i've noticed this at more than one place. Do you think they dilute it with water to save money?
 

Beau

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I think that means that they are just running low on the syrup for the soda, so you are basically getting more club soda (carbonated water).
 

pyonir

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it is because either gas, carbonated water, or the syrup isn't configured right. complain to the person in charge and they will fix it. simple as that.
 

t3chvest

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no, that just happens when it runs low on syrup or carbonated water. Dump it out, tell them it tastes weird, and they'll change it. However it wouldn't surprise me if some places never checked it... but no where I've ever been to.
 

HappyFace

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Start screaming "Someone peed in the Coke machine, AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" This will certainly upset the other customers. Continue doing so until they refill the machine and offer you bribes of free food, money, and extra services in return for silence.
 

bandXtrb

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<< it is because either gas, carbonated water, or the syrup isn't configured right. >>

Wow, I didn't know that's how it's done. THought it was ready to drink in the tanks.
 

ISAslot

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If you live near a nice decent size river here in FL, much of the time your coke will have sulfer water in it. Takes a bit to get used to that.
 

LuNoTiCK

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Hrmm.. How do those machines work exactly? Is there a big machine with tubes for each of the soda's? I wanna know. Do they carbonate the water themselves? How?
 

Thegonagle

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There is a big machine in the back called a carbonator that injects carbon dioxide from a large tank into the available tap water (usually run through a series of charcoal and particulate filters to remove chlorine and other little nasties in the tap water). It also chills the water. I believe the chilling is necessary for proper absorption of the carbon-dioxide.

The carbonator also has hookups for syrup, which is stored either in 5 gallon keg style tanks or 2-3 gallon "bag-in-boxes." There are separate tubes/pipes/lines/hoses (whatever you want to call them) for the carbonated water and for each different flavor soda that run from the back room to the fountain heads. The syrup is delivered via regulated pressure from the CO2 tank, and the carbonated water is either delivered via tap water pressure, or it?s pumped (I?m not exactly sure which.)

When you press the button for your favorite soda, solenoid valves open for both the carbonated water and the syrup and they mix right inside the plastic nozzle just before it falls into your cup.

Proper calibration of the water to syrup ratio is important, as is frequent cleaning and sanitation of the pop nozzles. A lot of places probably neglect both of these procedures, and the result is nasty tasting soda.

Calibration should be rechecked at least a few times per year, preferably monthly. Calibration is easily checked with a calibration nozzle and cup. This nozzle separates the water and the syrup into different streams, and a specially made divided cup catches both streams simultaneously. If the level of the syrup and the water come out the same, then that flavor is properly calibrated. If not, then an adjusting screw on the solenoid valve is turned to change the syrup:water ratio and the calibration is tested again.

You?d be surprised how much black nasty stuff grows in the nozzles of sugar pops (nothing grows in the Diet Coke nozzle ). They need to be cleaned and soaked in sanitizer (chlorine) water at least weekly, preferably daily.

There are also pre-mix dispensers that merely cool pre-made pop that?s stored in 5 gallon tanks, but these are only used in low volume situations or where greater portability is required. Any restaurant or convenience store would have a post-mix system like I described above.
 

bunker

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There's one big tank of compressed air as well as bags of syrup. The machine is also hooked up to a water source. The syrup, water and compressed air are mixed when you hit the little lever to dispense the soda.

*Edit - Damn! Garfang gave you the long version!!!
 
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Garfang is exactly right:



<< Proper calibration of the water to syrup ratio is important, as is frequent cleaning and sanitation of the pop nozzles. A lot of places probably neglect both of these procedures, and the result is nasty tasting soda.

Calibration should be rechecked at least a few times per year, preferably monthly. Calibration is easily checked with a calibration nozzle and cup. This nozzle separates the water and the syrup into different streams, and a specially made divided cup catches both streams simultaneously. If the level of the syrup and the water come out the same, then that flavor is properly calibrated. If not, then an adjusting screw on the solenoid valve is turned to change the syrup:water ratio and the calibration is tested again.
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sometimes, called the brix, the syrup ratio is out of whack if you soda tastes like crud.

I ordered a dr.pepper from wendy's once and it tasted like cherry coke. When i complained, I was informed that 1) that is how dr.pepper tastes, and 2) that wendy's doesn't sell cherry coke. I got pretty angry at that point and requested to talk to the manager. He again told me that they don't sell cherry coke. heheh, I eventually got satisfaction from the district manager, but it wasn't really worth the effort.
 

bandXtrb

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<< heheh, I eventually got satisfaction from the district manager, but it wasn't really worth the effort. >>

what did you get?
 

Thegonagle

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<<

<< heheh, I eventually got satisfaction from the district manager, but it wasn't really worth the effort. >>

what did you get?
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A free 32 oz. Cherry Coke!

(ha ha)
 
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free food of course! but the manager remembered me and asked if i wanted a cherry coke! hahah, i had to laugh at that...

 

LordMaul

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<< (nothing grows in the Diet Coke nozzle ) >>



Yeah, it probably kills it all off. :Q

If I remember correctly, Diet Coke has several nasty things in it...one is something called "dimethylpolysiloxane", which builds up in your body and changes into a chemical used for embalming...and for the life of me, I can't remember the name of it. It's a common enough name, but I forget...Also, there is phenylalanine in it, which has causes cancer according to research.

DAYUM.
 

ATLien247

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This one time, at 7-11... I bought a grape Slurpee that tasted like it had vodka in it...
 

Gunbuster

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Yup, Wendys is the worst ofender with funky Dr. Pepper, Michigan Wendys must just have a bad mix since most taste out of wack
 

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<< You ever get "weird" tasting fountain soda? Maybe it seems watery or has a "bitter" taste to it? What do you think? -- because i've noticed this at more than one place. Do you think they dilute it with water to save money? >>




Fountain soda is mixed on the fly and it is not as precise(usually) at canned soda. They take concentrated beverage syrup , tap water(filtered or not) and CO2 gas. CO2 gas is on compressed cylinder and is usually placed behind or underneath the machine.

The ingridients comes from three different sources:

Syrup=respective beverage company
Water=local water department
CO2=local compressed gas dealer

Everything has to be mixed just right for regular tasting soda to come out. Degree of water carbonation(thats why some feel soooo super tingly and others flat) and mixture ratio.


 
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