Welcome to 1984?

XMan

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Washington Post

Forget how you feel about hip hop music for a moment. In fact, replace hip hop music with some other form of expression if you like - poetry, perhaps.

NEW YORK ?? Members of Congress urged the hip-hop industry on Tuesday to better regulate the content of their records before Washington beats them to it.

"We do not know the hip-hop generation. We do not know the hip-hop industry. We feel that those who know themselves and those that know the industry can regulate it better," said Rep. Earl Hilliard, D-Ala., during the so-called Hip-Hop Summit's first day in New York.

The Recording Industry Association of America voluntarily puts parental advisory stickers on CDs it deems inappropriate for children. But Hillard said: "We need to go to the next level and go beyond that."

He suggested a ratings system similar to the movie industry's.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., recently introduced legislation that would give the Federal Trade Commission the authority under its false and deceptive advertising laws to act against entertainment companies that market "unsuitable" material to children. And the congressmen warned they could place more stringent restrictions on the industry.

"Washington can regulate you out of business if you do not have your act together," said Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.

Among those present for the first day of the summit ? aimed at addressing hip-hop issues, including artist's responsibility ? was Luther "Luke" Campbell, whose raunchy lyrics during his 2 Live Crew days in the late '80s and early '90s challenged free speech laws.

Campbell said he was disappointed by Lieberman's criticism of rap.

"We've got somebody, Lieberman, that we supported seriously in the election, as black people, and he's the one that's mainly attacking us. To me, that's really a slap in the face," Campbell said. "To now try and take food off our table and try and deaden our industry and try and put a whole lot of black people out of work, that's serious to me."

A spokesman for the former vice presidential candidate declined to comment. [/b]

 

Red Dawn

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The good thing about the Hip Hop industry and Artists is their propensity to "Off" one another! Take Tupac now known as "Six Feet Under" and Bigge Fats. If more of the Hip Hop artists would emulate their fallen Hero's there would be no need for any kind of legislation.
 

XMan

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How many rap stars have actually been killed, Red? I think you're perpetuating a stereotype here. I can only think of 2 myself.
 

Russ

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<< &quot;We've got somebody, Lieberman, that we supported seriously in the election, as black people, and he's the one that's mainly attacking us. To me, that's really a slap in the face. >>



I hope he isn't looking for sympathy. Lieberman has a long, and well known history, of favoring censorship. Uh, yeah, duh, well I'll vote for him anyway because he's a democrat.

Russ, NCNE

 

Red Dawn

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<< I think you're perpetuating a stereotype here >>

Play that Funky Music Whiteboy!
Red shudders at the idea of Xeroxman getting down and funky
 

Stark

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what a horrible thing to say Red... Bwahahahaha!!

Jay Leno made a comment last night about how Rap &quot;artists&quot; and Boy Bands are facing plummeting sales. Now the record industry is being forced to sign talent that can actually play musical instruments.

The large media companies have been selling absolute crap (morally and artistically) to kids to make money. They don't want to legislate themselves, so now the government has to. That's one of the roles of the government. How that resembles Orwell's novel is beyond me.
 

Amused

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All the folks that agreed that cigarette adveryising caused kids to smoke, and tobacco companies were evil, have NO place to moan and groan about this. It's simply an extention of the SAME logic.

Be careful what you wish for, it may come true.
 

XMan

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Play that Funky Music Whiteboy!
Red shudders at the idea of Xeroxman getting down and funky


LMAO.

No, I don't listen to rap, Red.

But I don't like the idea of the government telling me what I can and cannot listen to.
 

UNCjigga

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Without the hip hop industry, the only thing young black people will have to look forward to is getting a real job and moving outta the ghetto. That would mean tougher competition for decent jobs for non-black people. Basically, if you aren't black you should strive to support the hip-hop industry cuz its in your best interest!!! Let 'em have their glocks, benjamins, Cris', Hennessey, Bentley's etc. and just sit quiet...
 

Russ

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<< Without the hip hop industry, the only thing young black people will have to look forward to is getting a real job and moving outta the ghetto. >>



uncJIGGA,

Quick! There's a white sale on at KMart!

Russ, NCNE


 

Double Trouble

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While I think rap and hip-hop suck in general, seeing the government interfere and try to control expression in the music world is terrible. But hey, that's the nature of governments, over time they continue to get bigger, bigger, bigger, until they are overthrown by the repressed.

<< &quot;We've got somebody, Lieberman, that we supported seriously in the election, as black people, and he's the one that's mainly attacking us. To me, that's really a slap in the face. >>

That's what happens when you're too stooooopid to figure out the substance behind the man you're voting for. Thank God Lieberman is not the VP right now, or we'd have even more of this BS.
 

Pyro

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<<
But I don't like the idea of the government telling me what I can and cannot listen to.
>>



Unless you are a 12-year-old &quot;wigger&quot; or something, doesn't look like you have anything to worry about.


Normally I would dispprove of cencorship, but I would love if politicians regulated rap and pop to death.

*Silence is Golden*
 

Red Dawn

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In all seriousness, now that Rap is mainstream for &quot;Whitey&quot; it will fade from sight do to lack of creativity. The next generation will scorn it and in a year or two Ktel will be hawking &quot;Gansta Rap&quot; on Cable TV. When untalanted Schmucks like M&amp;M (melts in your mouth, not in your hand)become big stars you know the genre of music hasn't got long to live.

As for Blacks supporting Politicians that attack them, show me any Mainstream Politician that isn't a Back Stabbing SOB.
 

amdforlife

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all i have to say is, you are a SERIOUS dumbass if you think rap will fade out the picture anytime soon...
 

Gunther

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<< Normally I would dispprove of cencorship, but I would love if politicians regulated rap and pop to death. >>


Lol, I wouldn't mind that either, rap just sucks nowadays.
 

geno

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<< Jay Leno made a comment last night about how Rap &quot;artists&quot; and Boy Bands are facing plummeting sales >>


That's because the fake white suburbanites are finally getting tired of it. The mainstream artists do nothing for the genre but generate revenue. Slam Hip hop all you like - but chances are you wouldn't know 90% of the real artists out there.

And Gunther, tell me what &quot;rap&quot; you listen to on a regular basis, I'd like to know
 

Maetryx

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Maetryx here,

A rating system is not going to put the hip-hop industry out of business. That would be like whining about the MPAA rating system for movies. People under 17 aren't allowed to watch R-rated movies (without parents), and Hollywood is not going broke.

I'm not in favor of the government criminilizing lyrics. But I think that the RAIA (sp?) could rate musical releases the same way that the MPAA rates movies and that would be fine.
 

GL

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I'm Canadian and even I knew that Lieberman was for censorship. He and the media made a big deal out of it before the elections.
 

PistachioByAzul

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all i have to say is, you are a SERIOUS dumbass if you think rap will fade out the picture anytime soon...

That's what they said about disco...
 
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