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[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Dude I'm having a hard time finding a tuner for my bike with the proper map. I don't see any made for 09's and I just got a fat shots exhaust. I'm getting a mixed bag from the guys at 1130cc and only getting confused more!!!

I can look that up for you when I get home (Thursday night). I have the SE Pro Tuner and it came with a listing of all available mappings. IIRC there haven't been any changes to the VRSC series in the last year, so if they have a map for just an exhaust, I should see one in the list.

That said, with just an exhaust you probably don't need a tune. Tuning becomes necessary when you start messing with the intake, but an exhaust isn't going to make much difference. If you haven't yet, get hooked up on HDForums.com, they're a good resource for information on any Harley, but they will have a VRSC series forum too.

ZV

Yea I'm on HD forums also Funny you say because whenever I ask a VRSC related question they always send me to 1130cc lol Those guys are hardcore air cooled there

 

[jRaskell]

This was the result of a 30mph lowside when another car forced me to the inside of the curb and a bunch of winter sand while going through a 2 lane right hand turn at an intersection.

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It was completely obvious to me that she knew I was there, because the very moment my front end dropped and I hit the ground, she was swerving WELL into the outside lane and away from me.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Good work. The important thing is to respect the bike and be realistic about your skill level. Ego will get you killed.

Don't forget "Assume every other driver is out to kill you" because, well, they are.

I live in a major metro area, and while riding a motorcyle looks like fun, I'd just never do it around here. What with all the idiots texting/yakking/eating/putting on make-up/etc. while driving, I definitely want some metal on all four sides of me when I'm in traffic. It's just scary how much stupid behavior I see out there. Good luck to the OP - may your worst injury be sunburn!

More major than San Diego?

<--Lives in San Diego and rides a motorcycle.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jRaskell
This was the result of a 30mph lowside when another car forced me to the inside of the curb and a bunch of winter sand while going through a 2 lane right hand turn at an intersection.

Pic1
Pic2

It was completely obvious to me that she knew I was there, because the very moment my front end dropped and I hit the ground, she was swerving WELL into the outside lane and away from me.

That sucks. And this is precisely why I will always wear a full face helmet whenever I get on my bike.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Good work. The important thing is to respect the bike and be realistic about your skill level. Ego will get you killed.

Don't forget "Assume every other driver is out to kill you" because, well, they are.

I live in a major metro area, and while riding a motorcyle looks like fun, I'd just never do it around here. What with all the idiots texting/yakking/eating/putting on make-up/etc. while driving, I definitely want some metal on all four sides of me when I'm in traffic. It's just scary how much stupid behavior I see out there. Good luck to the OP - may your worst injury be sunburn!

More major than San Diego?

<--Lives in San Diego and rides a motorcycle.

Yea the Toronto area is about twice as big population wise according to wiki, 6 million + vs 2.9 in San Diego. Plus our drivers are worse, trust me on that

It's not like I won't ride, I will, but when I do I will be 8000 % alert.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: jRaskell
This was the result of a 30mph lowside when another car forced me to the inside of the curb and a bunch of winter sand while going through a 2 lane right hand turn at an intersection.

Pic1
Pic2

It was completely obvious to me that she knew I was there, because the very moment my front end dropped and I hit the ground, she was swerving WELL into the outside lane and away from me.

Damm man, that sucks. And wow that helmet saved your ass. I'm def getting a full face, no arguement, I was going to get one anyways before starting this thread I will keep my other one around for relaxed rides somewhere where there really is no traffic and short distances.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Good work. The important thing is to respect the bike and be realistic about your skill level. Ego will get you killed.

Don't forget "Assume every other driver is out to kill you" because, well, they are.

I live in a major metro area, and while riding a motorcyle looks like fun, I'd just never do it around here. What with all the idiots texting/yakking/eating/putting on make-up/etc. while driving, I definitely want some metal on all four sides of me when I'm in traffic. It's just scary how much stupid behavior I see out there. Good luck to the OP - may your worst injury be sunburn!

More major than San Diego?

<--Lives in San Diego and rides a motorcycle.

Yea the Toronto area is about twice as big population wise according to wiki, 6 million + vs 2.9 in San Diego. Plus our drivers are worse, trust me on that

It's not like I won't ride, I will, but when I do I will be 8000 % alert.

I was asking Mursilis; who, according to his profile, is from somewhere called Woodbridge, VA.

BTW-I've been to Toronto a number of times. I like Toronto but wouldn't want to live there...too cold.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: jRaskell
This was the result of a 30mph lowside when another car forced me to the inside of the curb and a bunch of winter sand while going through a 2 lane right hand turn at an intersection.

Pic1
Pic2

It was completely obvious to me that she knew I was there, because the very moment my front end dropped and I hit the ground, she was swerving WELL into the outside lane and away from me.

Damm man, that sucks. And wow that helmet saved your ass. I'm def getting a full face, no arguement, I was going to get one anyways before starting this thread I will keep my other one around for relaxed rides somewhere where there really is no traffic and short distances.

Accidents can happen anywhere...even where there really is no traffic.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Good work. The important thing is to respect the bike and be realistic about your skill level. Ego will get you killed.

Don't forget "Assume every other driver is out to kill you" because, well, they are.

I live in a major metro area, and while riding a motorcyle looks like fun, I'd just never do it around here. What with all the idiots texting/yakking/eating/putting on make-up/etc. while driving, I definitely want some metal on all four sides of me when I'm in traffic. It's just scary how much stupid behavior I see out there. Good luck to the OP - may your worst injury be sunburn!

More major than San Diego?

<--Lives in San Diego and rides a motorcycle.

Yea the Toronto area is about twice as big population wise according to wiki, 6 million + vs 2.9 in San Diego. Plus our drivers are worse, trust me on that

It's not like I won't ride, I will, but when I do I will be 8000 % alert.

I was asking Mursilis; who, according to his profile, is from somewhere called Woodbridge, VA.

BTW-I've been to Toronto a number of times. I like Toronto but wouldn't want to live there...too cold.

Lol n/m I'm dumb.

And you're right, accidents can happen anywhere.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman
Full face helmet really is the way to go.

I think you're going to find the V-Rod easier to ride than the Saber. They have a low center of gravity, and power delivery is very smooth from idle to 9k.

The most important thing is that V-Rods set the standard for cool.

Yup I'm getting a full face def, just haven't decided with what brand to go. There's a bike show coming up April 5th so I might check that out and try some on, then buy one there or online depending on where the better price is.

Dude I'm having a hard time finding a tuner for my bike with the proper map. I don't see any made for 09's and I just got a fat shots exhaust. I'm getting a mixed bag from the guys at 1130cc and only getting confused more!!!

The Fatshots don't need any tuner if you run them with 8 disks and a closed end cap. I used to have a set on my D. I couldn't stand the noise they made so I went back to stock.
But it's my opinion that even a bone stock V-Rod needs a fueler. They just run to damn lean right from the factory. A PCIII with a map that isn't very good will get you a ton more mid range, and the best map you'll be able to download isn't very good. You'll need a dyno tune to really dial it in. The next problem is that if you buy a PCIII and pay for a dyno tune, you're within $200 of the cost of a Thundermax, and the Tmax is without doubt the most robust and best performing system you can put on a Rod. You never need a tune again with a Tmax, no matter what mods you do.
There is also the PC-V that will auto tune, but I don't know if you can set a target AFR with a PC-V, and I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't allow adjusting the AFR.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman
Full face helmet really is the way to go.

I think you're going to find the V-Rod easier to ride than the Saber. They have a low center of gravity, and power delivery is very smooth from idle to 9k.

The most important thing is that V-Rods set the standard for cool.

Yup I'm getting a full face def, just haven't decided with what brand to go. There's a bike show coming up April 5th so I might check that out and try some on, then buy one there or online depending on where the better price is.

Dude I'm having a hard time finding a tuner for my bike with the proper map. I don't see any made for 09's and I just got a fat shots exhaust. I'm getting a mixed bag from the guys at 1130cc and only getting confused more!!!

The Fatshots don't need any tuner if you run them with 8 disks and a closed end cap. I used to have a set on my D. I couldn't stand the noise they made so I went back to stock.
But it's my opinion that even a bone stock V-Rod needs a fueler. They just run to damn lean right from the factory. A PCIII with a map that isn't very good will get you a ton more mid range, and the best map you'll be able to download isn't very good. You'll need a dyno tune to really dial it in. The next problem is that if you buy a PCIII and pay for a dyno tune, you're within $200 of the cost of a Thundermax, and the Tmax is without doubt the most robust and best performing system you can put on a Rod. You never need a tune again with a Tmax, no matter what mods you do.
There is also the PC-V that will auto tune, but I don't know if you can set a target AFR with a PC-V, and I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't allow adjusting the AFR.

Already signed up for the forum group buy for the T-Max It does seem like the smartest choice and I don't have to dyno stuff not to mention worry about dyno'ing it again after adding stuff in the future.

And aww really, you didn't like the sound? How come you couldn't stand them?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman
Full face helmet really is the way to go.

I think you're going to find the V-Rod easier to ride than the Saber. They have a low center of gravity, and power delivery is very smooth from idle to 9k.

The most important thing is that V-Rods set the standard for cool.

Yup I'm getting a full face def, just haven't decided with what brand to go. There's a bike show coming up April 5th so I might check that out and try some on, then buy one there or online depending on where the better price is.

Dude I'm having a hard time finding a tuner for my bike with the proper map. I don't see any made for 09's and I just got a fat shots exhaust. I'm getting a mixed bag from the guys at 1130cc and only getting confused more!!!

The Fatshots don't need any tuner if you run them with 8 disks and a closed end cap. I used to have a set on my D. I couldn't stand the noise they made so I went back to stock.
But it's my opinion that even a bone stock V-Rod needs a fueler. They just run to damn lean right from the factory. A PCIII with a map that isn't very good will get you a ton more mid range, and the best map you'll be able to download isn't very good. You'll need a dyno tune to really dial it in. The next problem is that if you buy a PCIII and pay for a dyno tune, you're within $200 of the cost of a Thundermax, and the Tmax is without doubt the most robust and best performing system you can put on a Rod. You never need a tune again with a Tmax, no matter what mods you do.
There is also the PC-V that will auto tune, but I don't know if you can set a target AFR with a PC-V, and I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't allow adjusting the AFR.

Already signed up for the forum group buy for the T-Max It does seem like the smartest choice and I don't have to dyno stuff not to mention worry about dyno'ing it again after adding stuff in the future.

And aww really, you didn't like the sound? How come you couldn't stand them?

My neighbor has a HD Street Bob with Screamin' Eagle exhaust. It is ridiculously loud, I can't imagine riding that thing for more than 1/2 hour without going deaf and longer rides it would wear on me quickly.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
My neighbor has a HD Street Bob with Screamin' Eagle exhaust. It is ridiculously loud, I can't imagine riding that thing for more than 1/2 hour without going deaf and longer rides it would wear on me quickly.

I have an SE Pro II (read, race use) exhaust on my Sporty and while they're loud it's not nearly as bad as one might think. Plus, coupled with an intake and re-tune, the open SE exhaust gives a 22% improvement in torque and a 15% improvement in horsepower.

ZV

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Greenman
Full face helmet really is the way to go.

I think you're going to find the V-Rod easier to ride than the Saber. They have a low center of gravity, and power delivery is very smooth from idle to 9k.

The most important thing is that V-Rods set the standard for cool.

Yup I'm getting a full face def, just haven't decided with what brand to go. There's a bike show coming up April 5th so I might check that out and try some on, then buy one there or online depending on where the better price is.

Dude I'm having a hard time finding a tuner for my bike with the proper map. I don't see any made for 09's and I just got a fat shots exhaust. I'm getting a mixed bag from the guys at 1130cc and only getting confused more!!!

The Fatshots don't need any tuner if you run them with 8 disks and a closed end cap. I used to have a set on my D. I couldn't stand the noise they made so I went back to stock.
But it's my opinion that even a bone stock V-Rod needs a fueler. They just run to damn lean right from the factory. A PCIII with a map that isn't very good will get you a ton more mid range, and the best map you'll be able to download isn't very good. You'll need a dyno tune to really dial it in. The next problem is that if you buy a PCIII and pay for a dyno tune, you're within $200 of the cost of a Thundermax, and the Tmax is without doubt the most robust and best performing system you can put on a Rod. You never need a tune again with a Tmax, no matter what mods you do.
There is also the PC-V that will auto tune, but I don't know if you can set a target AFR with a PC-V, and I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't allow adjusting the AFR.

Already signed up for the forum group buy for the T-Max It does seem like the smartest choice and I don't have to dyno stuff not to mention worry about dyno'ing it again after adding stuff in the future.

And aww really, you didn't like the sound? How come you couldn't stand them?

Because with the end caps on the sound comes out around the disks in a 360 degree circle. That created some sort of resonance in my FF helmet that drove me insane. The bike droned like an old turboprop, I couldn't wait to dump those things.
Just a few days ago I drilled 8 1/2" holes in the muffler ends, I'm very pleased with the result. Quiet enough when you putt, a pretty mean bark when you get on it, and I can't hear it at all over 70mph. The only other thing I'm going to do on the exhaust is fabricate a ring to cover the holes in the muffler that can rotate. That way I can make it quiet or loud with a simple twist of the ring.

 

[Greenman]

I just remembered the black flies you get in the summer up there, you're going to need a full face helmet, a windshield and a toothbrush made out of stainless steel.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
My neighbor has a HD Street Bob with Screamin' Eagle exhaust. It is ridiculously loud, I can't imagine riding that thing for more than 1/2 hour without going deaf and longer rides it would wear on me quickly.

I have an SE Pro II (read, race use) exhaust on my Sporty and while they're loud it's not nearly as bad as one might think. Plus, coupled with an intake and re-tune, the open SE exhaust gives a 22% improvement in torque and a 15% improvement in horsepower.

ZV

You need it with that heavy chunk of iron.

 

[DVad3r]

What do you guys think of this helmet? Either the HJC or Joe Rocket, not sure what the difference is between them or where they are made.

http://www.skullcrushhelmets.c...ARBON-FIBER/Categories

 

[BZeto]

For that price get a Shoei RF-1000.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
What do you guys think of this helmet? Either the HJC or Joe Rocket, not sure what the difference is between them or where they are made.

http://www.skullcrushhelmets.c...ARBON-FIBER/Categories

I'd try them on before making a purchase. Make sure you get one that fits your head and is comfortable, this is the most important thing when choosing a helmet. I've heard the HJC and Joe Rocket helmets are kind of loud (wind noise) compared to Arai or Shoei (I have an RF-1000 myself) but haven't ridden with anything other than a Shoei personally.

Different helmet brands fit different shaped heads. Try them on before you buy one. I wouldn't buy a helmet online without trying it on first and making sure it fits.

Make sure the helmet fits snugly but isn't too tight or too loose. With the helmet on and buckled you shouldn't be able to rotate it on your head or slide it up and off from the back using moderate force with both hands. Your cheeks should be pushed up by the cheek pads, but again, it shouldn't be uncomfortable.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: BZeto
For that price get a Shoei RF-1000.

Well I might as well put in a little more and get a X-Eleven. Or an Arai helmet, not sure which is better. The graphics are pretty cool on some of the helmets although not sure if they would go good with my bike

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
My neighbor has a HD Street Bob with Screamin' Eagle exhaust. It is ridiculously loud, I can't imagine riding that thing for more than 1/2 hour without going deaf and longer rides it would wear on me quickly.

I have an SE Pro II (read, race use) exhaust on my Sporty and while they're loud it's not nearly as bad as one might think. Plus, coupled with an intake and re-tune, the open SE exhaust gives a 22% improvement in torque and a 15% improvement in horsepower.
ZV

You need it with that heavy chunk of iron.

True, true. At nearly 600 pounds the Sporty is hardly a lightweight. Still, having at least 60 ft-lbs of torque at the wheel from 2,000 to 6,000 RPM makes for a nice and relaxed ride. (Peak is 76 ft-lbs @ 4,000 RPM.) Sportbikes are fun, but they don't suit my riding style. I'll admit to being a bit of a loafer on the bike.

Back to the OP's helmet questions, you're spot-on. The most important thing is how the helmet fits. Arai actually has three different helmet profiles, and I'm not sure, but I think some other companies may have multiple shapes as well, so just because one model from a manufacturer doesn't fit, that doesn't mean none of the others will.

About the cheek pads, one of the "tests" that I've found useful is to see if you can chew without biting your cheeks. If the cheek pads are so tight that your teeth rub against the inside of your cheeks when you chew, the cheek pads are too tight.

ZV

 

[BZeto]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: BZeto
For that price get a Shoei RF-1000.

Well I might as well put in a little more and get a X-Eleven. Or an Arai helmet, not sure which is better. The graphics are pretty cool on some of the helmets although not sure if they would go good with my bike

Some of the graphics are cool but the majority are way over the top imo. Not that I go around judging riders because they have a neon orange devil, skulls and 69's plastered all over their helmet.. but I'd much rather have a flat color myself. My next helmet will be a plain black or white RF-1000.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Good work. The important thing is to respect the bike and be realistic about your skill level. Ego will get you killed.

Don't forget "Assume every other driver is out to kill you" because, well, they are.

I live in a major metro area, and while riding a motorcyle looks like fun, I'd just never do it around here. What with all the idiots texting/yakking/eating/putting on make-up/etc. while driving, I definitely want some metal on all four sides of me when I'm in traffic. It's just scary how much stupid behavior I see out there. Good luck to the OP - may your worst injury be sunburn!

More major than San Diego?

<--Lives in San Diego and rides a motorcycle.

Yea the Toronto area is about twice as big population wise according to wiki, 6 million + vs 2.9 in San Diego. Plus our drivers are worse, trust me on that

It's not like I won't ride, I will, but when I do I will be 8000 % alert.

I was asking Mursilis; who, according to his profile, is from somewhere called Woodbridge, VA.

BTW-I've been to Toronto a number of times. I like Toronto but wouldn't want to live there...too cold.

SoCal's definitely more major, but then, I wouldn't ride a bike there either! But hey, if you do, best of luck to you. You're just a braver person than me (and hopefully luckier).

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Another good motorcycle vid.

n00b rider? Check
No jacket? Check
No boots? Check
No helmet? Check
Passenger on the back? Check
Start off on the sidewalk? Check

This has all the prerequisites for a disaster before they even get on the bike. :laugh:

Getting on the wrong side too...

Well, you didn't drop it, which is great. I dropped a bike taking it off the kick stand for the first time ever. Thank god it was during a course.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
My neighbor has a HD Street Bob with Screamin' Eagle exhaust. It is ridiculously loud, I can't imagine riding that thing for more than 1/2 hour without going deaf and longer rides it would wear on me quickly.

I have an SE Pro II (read, race use) exhaust on my Sporty and while they're loud it's not nearly as bad as one might think. Plus, coupled with an intake and re-tune, the open SE exhaust gives a 22% improvement in torque and a 15% improvement in horsepower.
ZV

You need it with that heavy chunk of iron.

True, true. At nearly 600 pounds the Sporty is hardly a lightweight. Still, having at least 60 ft-lbs of torque at the wheel from 2,000 to 6,000 RPM makes for a nice and relaxed ride. (Peak is 76 ft-lbs @ 4,000 RPM.) Sportbikes are fun, but they don't suit my riding style. I'll admit to being a bit of a loafer on the bike.

Back to the OP's helmet questions, you're spot-on. The most important thing is how the helmet fits. Arai actually has three different helmet profiles, and I'm not sure, but I think some other companies may have multiple shapes as well, so just because one model from a manufacturer doesn't fit, that doesn't mean none of the others will.

About the cheek pads, one of the "tests" that I've found useful is to see if you can chew without biting your cheeks. If the cheek pads are so tight that your teeth rub against the inside of your cheeks when you chew, the cheek pads are too tight.

ZV

Excellent point. I had forgotten about that. :thumbsup: